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frontpage Posted by DC13 • Jun 3, 2023

2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT + $7500 Tax Credit + In-Home Charger Install

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from $26500

$26,500

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Chevrolet is offering the 2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT Electric Car + Home Charger Installation (terms apply) available from $26,500. You will also qualify for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member DC13 for sharing this deal.
  • Note: Pricing and availability will vary depending on your selected options and available inventory.
About this Car:
  • EPA-Estimate 259-Mile electric range on full charge
  • 200 Horsepower / 266 lb ft of Torque
  • 65 kWh Battery
  • Seats up to 5
  • Automatic Emergency Braking
  • Front Pedestrian Braking
  • Lane Keep Assist
  • Forward Collision Alert
  • Auto High Beam Headlights
  • 10.2" Infotainment system with Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, Alexa & More

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Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • Home Charger Installation Offer requires following the steps located on the Offer Page here.
    • Offer available to eligible customers who purchase or lease a 2022 or 2023 Bolt EV or Bolt EUV. Home charging installation promotion includes purchase and installation of a 240V outlet (NEMA 14-50 outlet and new 40-amp breaker in existing panel) from a GM selected vendor.
    • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
      • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
      • $225,000 for heads of households
      • $150,000 for all other filers
    • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional deal details & discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Chevrolet is offering the 2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT Electric Car + Home Charger Installation (terms apply) available from $26,500. You will also qualify for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member DC13 for sharing this deal.
  • Note: Pricing and availability will vary depending on your selected options and available inventory.
About this Car:
  • EPA-Estimate 259-Mile electric range on full charge
  • 200 Horsepower / 266 lb ft of Torque
  • 65 kWh Battery
  • Seats up to 5
  • Automatic Emergency Braking
  • Front Pedestrian Braking
  • Lane Keep Assist
  • Forward Collision Alert
  • Auto High Beam Headlights
  • 10.2" Infotainment system with Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, Alexa & More

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • Home Charger Installation Offer requires following the steps located on the Offer Page here.
    • Offer available to eligible customers who purchase or lease a 2022 or 2023 Bolt EV or Bolt EUV. Home charging installation promotion includes purchase and installation of a 240V outlet (NEMA 14-50 outlet and new 40-amp breaker in existing panel) from a GM selected vendor.
    • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
      • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
      • $225,000 for heads of households
      • $150,000 for all other filers
    • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional deal details & discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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221b
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Hate when people include tax credits into price that not everyone qualifies for without all the info, it's a little misleading in these ev/Tesla threads. This requires a tax liability of $7500 or more that you get after you file and is not point of sale. Also max income of $150-300k for single/married filers to qualify. Also there is nothing new here, this is MSRP, info on tax credit, and the charger install was always included with bolt purchase (since Feb '21)

edit: For clarification from the wiki: "The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due."
So lower income people will not get a $7500 refund, it depends on your liability. i.e. A SDer responded about a student being angry in a previous thread that they only got $500 back and not $7500.
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LOL no.

Virtually all of the ICE vehicle can be recycled. Generally the only items not recyclable per se will be interior trim - it's mixed plastic and rubber. Engine? steel or aluminum. Gearcases? Steel or aluminum. Body, frame, etc, steel or aluminum. In fact, about 86% of a car can be recycled [recyclenation.com].

Meanwhile your EV will still have a fully and readily recyclable frame and body, just like the ICE. The motor will generally be recyclable. The battery? Not really. Generally batteries and battery packs are not really designed for recycling. Most are just thousands of individual cylindrical cells, that themselves are spiral wound multilayer structures. There's no easy way to separate the materials here. An ICE, you literally rip out the engine with heavy equipment and include it in with any other steel or aluminum - the process is astonishingly easy and quick [youtube.com] with heavy equipment.

Meanwhile, the batteries are generally just shredded [ucsusa.org]. The resulting material is called "black mass" and is placed into a bath of caustic chemicals to leech out the *important* elements. In certain cases, that black mass is first incinerated to burn off plastic and epoxies. Yeah that sounds super efficient and environmental to me.
truckin76
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So basically these cars could simply be like you iphone or Guarraty disposable product. Please upgrade and throw your old one in the trash. So much for saving the environment and saving money.

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gubbar
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The best I see around me in IL is 32K. Good luck to those who can find it for 26.5K
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alcie
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Quote from gubbar :
A concept car designed in 1957 hasn't seen the light for 6 decades and you want to support your argument based on this BS?
We _desperately_ need a deal on the sense of humor. Maybe on Black Friday? I bet stock will run out pretty fast, though.
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Quote from 221b :
Hate when people include tax credits into price that not everyone qualifies for without all the info, it's a little misleading in these ev/Tesla threads. This requires a tax liability of $7500 or more that you get after you file and is not point of sale. Also max income of $150-300k for single/married filers to qualify. Also there is nothing new here, this is MSRP, info on tax credit, and the charger install was always included with bolt purchase.
I'm pretty sure most married couples making 300k+ don't need to worry about a rebate on a car that's just over half the cost of the average new vehicle.
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Quote from 221b :
Hate when people include tax credits into price that not everyone qualifies for without all the info, it's a little misleading in these ev/Tesla threads. This requires a tax liability of $7500 or more that you get after you file and is not point of sale. Also max income of $150-300k for single/married filers to qualify. Also there is nothing new here, this is MSRP, info on tax credit, and the charger install was always included with bolt purchase.
Agreed, and as I understand it, the tax credit is not exactly a cash return of the same amount. For example, with 7500 tax credit, one can get back may be 1500 or 2000 back during tax return. It depends on the individual tax situation at the end of the year.
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jpmtotoro
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Quote from Wyvern1 :
its such a great car that GM decided to discontinue it lol
Because they developed the Ultium battery platform which is more advanced, so they are ceasing production and replacing it with the Equinox EV based on the new platform. Since they are using the same plant, they have to stop production and then retool it for the new vehicle.

Bolt was a decent little car for what it is (I have one, no buyer's remorse).

Unlike with ICE vehicles, with BEVs we are going to say battery platform overhauls every once on a while, which will lead to the discontinuation of old models and development of new models. They might have elected to use the same name, but it will still be a completely new car.

Telsa will eventually release a new platform which will replace their existing models too. Inevitable.
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jomeyq
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Quote from Winnebago :
CAN WE PLEASE ALL AGREE:
1) everyone go back and edit their posts from "dealer" and "dealership(s)" to "STEALERSHIP(S)"
2) now and henceforth refer to them as "stealership(s)"

the stealership model is obviously corrupt and broken. let's call it for what it is.


Also, can someone with multiple EVs in the same neighborhood/block report back in 6 months on the number of times their transformers have blown?

small sample size: neighbor works for power company. owns EV (tesla S then Bolt now Mustang-E) has had transformer blown twice in 4 years and says the existing infrastructure cant handle it.
People charging EVs at home mostly do so overnight, so the power draw of adding a few cars is not a big issue. If your neighbor believes that plugging in her one car (32amp max, considering it was a bolt) is overloading the local transformer, then the problem isn't the car.
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ren213
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Quote from forumz :
I'm assuming this is 19k after incentives?
You pay sales tax on the full 26,500

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jpmtotoro
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Quote from manku :
I own an EUV...it's one of the narrowest cars in the market at under 70 inches. The Honda is nearly 10 inches wider, which is HUGE for a car. Also 6 inches taller, which again is massive. It feels bigger than it is, but not when you've got 4 people inside.

Storage is dreadful without rear seat down.

Bolt has awful handling in bad weather (rain...no snow in LA)...my guess is it's due to very hard rubber on tires (fuel efficiency?), and too much torque going to front tires.
Handling in the snow is not great, very true. Torque and tires, for sure. Can replace the tires, but then probably suffer a bit on range.

And the storage space is pretty good, but only if your seats are down, like you mentioned.

I can either fit a bunch of stuff in mine, or a bunch of people. Not both. (but I am fine with that limitation, personally).
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keem773
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As an EV owner, this is a GREAT deal! Personally, the Bolt is too small for me and the exterior doesn't look appealing so I always passed. I'd still recommend this to other people that don't mind a small car or want an EV and don't care about the looks. The Model 3 with the same range is similarly priced so it's a toss up.
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sd8384
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Quote from lostime :
The included dual volt EVSE pulls 32amps on 240, no more, no less. 32a.

It makes adapting it to most fryer plugs impossible because they are usually 30a. But you could hook this up to a 100a breaker and it would still pull 32a.
It's not about what charger comes with Chevy. Most commercially available charger are 40A and hardwired onces are 48A. I have seen many people who just add a dryer pigtails to hardwire charger which would exceed recommended current pull for 14-50. Using 40A breaker will prevent this exact thing. If Chevy charger is 32A it's more the reason to do 40A breaker.
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Quote from alcie :
We _desperately_ need a deal on the sense of humor. Maybe on Black Friday? I bet stock will run out pretty fast, though.
Lol. Ok in that sense, absolutely agree. Too early in the morning man. Excuse me for not thinking through it...
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Quote from 221b :
Hate when people include tax credits into price that not everyone qualifies for without all the info, it's a little misleading in these ev/Tesla threads. This requires a tax liability of $7500 or more that you get after you file and is not point of sale. Also max income of $150-300k for single/married filers to qualify. Also there is nothing new here, this is MSRP, info on tax credit, and the charger install was always included with bolt purchase.
It's not a Tesla thread. So much hatred on teslas lmfao
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JesusFreak
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Quote from Cecerious :
Which I figured is the case. And yes there is an exception for 40 amp on 50 amp outlet. But it's a cheap horrible practice. Say if a new homeowner decides the want to use that outlet with a 50 amp device. Most people should use due diligence and check the circuit when working with that high of an amperage, but most people aren't most people. Lets just hope that the wiring that was originally installed is the right gauge to give that circuit breaker a chance to pop.
This feels like moving the goalposts. First you said code violation, then rolled that back to cheap horrible practice.

Is it a code violation or isn't it?
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Gibson486
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Quote from Cecerious :
It's no wonder why their cars catch on fire. Chevy should really think about hiring new electrical engineers.

I though this was a typo on the OP's part, but the website does indeed state a 40 amp breaker on a NEMA 14-50 outlet. Umm talk about a code violation.

(Keep in mind that this is a universal outlet install, NOT a direct wiring install. So the breaker NEEDS to be sized to the maximum load limit, not just the load limit of the primary device that's going to be installed on it.)
I think you need figure out electrical engineering before you comment.

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Quote from InLimbo :
It would concern me that they redesigned the Bolt EV and added the EUV for 2023 and then just discontinued the models. Seems like it would be hard to get parts specific to those cars down the road when they only existed for 1 model year.
They will provide service parts for a number of years, so it isn't too terrible... The bigger issue I have seen with low volume cars is you can never find used parts later, and even after-market pickings can be pretty slim.

So if you only wanted to hold this for 5-ish years, no problem. 10 years and you could start struggling. 15 years could be quite tough.

But then again, there are fewer parts that should need service, so maybe it won't be quite as bad. Still a bit of a dice roll.

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