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frontpage Posted by DC13 • Jun 3, 2023

2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT + $7500 Tax Credit + In-Home Charger Install

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from $26500

$26,500

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Chevrolet is offering the 2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT Electric Car + Home Charger Installation (terms apply) available from $26,500. You will also qualify for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member DC13 for sharing this deal.
  • Note: Pricing and availability will vary depending on your selected options and available inventory.
About this Car:
  • EPA-Estimate 259-Mile electric range on full charge
  • 200 Horsepower / 266 lb ft of Torque
  • 65 kWh Battery
  • Seats up to 5
  • Automatic Emergency Braking
  • Front Pedestrian Braking
  • Lane Keep Assist
  • Forward Collision Alert
  • Auto High Beam Headlights
  • 10.2" Infotainment system with Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, Alexa & More

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Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • Home Charger Installation Offer requires following the steps located on the Offer Page here.
    • Offer available to eligible customers who purchase or lease a 2022 or 2023 Bolt EV or Bolt EUV. Home charging installation promotion includes purchase and installation of a 240V outlet (NEMA 14-50 outlet and new 40-amp breaker in existing panel) from a GM selected vendor.
    • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
      • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
      • $225,000 for heads of households
      • $150,000 for all other filers
    • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional deal details & discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Chevrolet is offering the 2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT Electric Car + Home Charger Installation (terms apply) available from $26,500. You will also qualify for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member DC13 for sharing this deal.
  • Note: Pricing and availability will vary depending on your selected options and available inventory.
About this Car:
  • EPA-Estimate 259-Mile electric range on full charge
  • 200 Horsepower / 266 lb ft of Torque
  • 65 kWh Battery
  • Seats up to 5
  • Automatic Emergency Braking
  • Front Pedestrian Braking
  • Lane Keep Assist
  • Forward Collision Alert
  • Auto High Beam Headlights
  • 10.2" Infotainment system with Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, Alexa & More

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • Home Charger Installation Offer requires following the steps located on the Offer Page here.
    • Offer available to eligible customers who purchase or lease a 2022 or 2023 Bolt EV or Bolt EUV. Home charging installation promotion includes purchase and installation of a 240V outlet (NEMA 14-50 outlet and new 40-amp breaker in existing panel) from a GM selected vendor.
    • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
      • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
      • $225,000 for heads of households
      • $150,000 for all other filers
    • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional deal details & discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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221b
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Hate when people include tax credits into price that not everyone qualifies for without all the info, it's a little misleading in these ev/Tesla threads. This requires a tax liability of $7500 or more that you get after you file and is not point of sale. Also max income of $150-300k for single/married filers to qualify. Also there is nothing new here, this is MSRP, info on tax credit, and the charger install was always included with bolt purchase (since Feb '21)

edit: For clarification from the wiki: "The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due."
So lower income people will not get a $7500 refund, it depends on your liability. i.e. A SDer responded about a student being angry in a previous thread that they only got $500 back and not $7500.
Dr. J
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LOL no.

Virtually all of the ICE vehicle can be recycled. Generally the only items not recyclable per se will be interior trim - it's mixed plastic and rubber. Engine? steel or aluminum. Gearcases? Steel or aluminum. Body, frame, etc, steel or aluminum. In fact, about 86% of a car can be recycled [recyclenation.com].

Meanwhile your EV will still have a fully and readily recyclable frame and body, just like the ICE. The motor will generally be recyclable. The battery? Not really. Generally batteries and battery packs are not really designed for recycling. Most are just thousands of individual cylindrical cells, that themselves are spiral wound multilayer structures. There's no easy way to separate the materials here. An ICE, you literally rip out the engine with heavy equipment and include it in with any other steel or aluminum - the process is astonishingly easy and quick [youtube.com] with heavy equipment.

Meanwhile, the batteries are generally just shredded [ucsusa.org]. The resulting material is called "black mass" and is placed into a bath of caustic chemicals to leech out the *important* elements. In certain cases, that black mass is first incinerated to burn off plastic and epoxies. Yeah that sounds super efficient and environmental to me.
truckin76
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So basically these cars could simply be like you iphone or Guarraty disposable product. Please upgrade and throw your old one in the trash. So much for saving the environment and saving money.

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lyonne
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Quote from Core2Quad :
What if we don't want them to install a charger will they give us any cash? Already have one I installed.
$500 charging credit with EVgo and Chargepoint through the EVgo app.
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Quote from sakdeals :
I always have approximately 2 to 3 K tax refund every year and I am expecting same for this year.
In this Case,
"The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due."

So If i buy EV this year, i still not get any EV credit since I have tax refund.?
You can get the credit. The part about it being "not refundable" means it can only reduce your tax liability to zero (versus a "refundable" credit where you can come out earning money on your refund, i.e., receiving more back than you paid in for the year). It's kinda poorly named.

Examples:

If you typically are liable for $8k/year in taxes but have $11k withheld from your paycheck, you'll get a $3k tax refund. In this example, if you buy this car, the $7500 credit reduces your tax liability to $500 for that year, so you will get a $10.5k refund.

If you're only liable for $5k in taxes for the year and have $8k withheld from your paycheck, then the $7500 credit can only bring your liability to $0 for that year, which means you'll get the $8k that was withheld back and that's it. So you effectively only received $5k of the $7500 credit.
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Piercedrn
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Quote from harunba73 :
Any good reply for NJ ?
I replied but not good per se.
4K from nj and no sales tax.
But money for nj 4k rebate "ran out" until it most likely is renewed for next fiscal yr in July.
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Mamiww6
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Quote from BAF :
Not really relevant. The Leaf (it's spelled Leaf, by the way) is rather primitive with in comparison with its air cooled battery pack, which really harms the lifespan. Most other modern EVs from competent manufacturers have active thermal management for the battery pack, which really helps.



Yeah but passenger vehicles in general do very little damage to the road. The vast majority of road damage is done by large, heavy commercial vehicles. We should shift more of the cost onto them IMO.



You're a moron. If EV tech is dying, then how would nuclear powered cars work? Let's ignore the obvious problem of lugging around radioactive material in vehicles driven by crappy distracted drivers when we can't even get nuclear power plants approved and built because of the NIMBYs (even though modern reactor designs are extremely safe in comparison to historical designs).
Commercial trucking company pay IFTA fee per cent/mile, FYI. And there is so much more goes into commercial trucking business. Was a driver and contractor for many years
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VicVinegar
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Looked around earlier in the year. Inventory was low even before they discontinued it. What is left is often being marked up by useless middlemen. So good luck. Good deal otherwise.
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Mamiww6
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Quote from Hoagers :
Why is that? They have a product and a price, it is your choice to buy from them or not right? I've always done my reaserch prior, emailed or faxed dealerships the "Out the door price" I'm willing to pay "non-negotiable" when I was completely ready to buy and had my funding, cash or credit union fiancing handled prior never had an issue. If you're weak, uninformed, without a strategy/plan you deserve what you get in life. It has been said many times" stupidity has it's price", as does laziness. Lots of people have more money than sense and are happy throwing cash at dealers, good for them that's not me but why do you seem to hate them for simply putting a price you don't like on something you and others may want? Even a $40K mark-up so what?!?! Don't like it then it's not worth that to you and move on. Youu see the same thing with gas prices, a station across the street is $.40 higher do youu hate them as well or just buy from the cheaper one?

GM and Ford are thankfully nearing the verge of bancrupcy, and that is great due to the many, many horrible managerial decisions they've made since the late 70' they've come home to roost. Tesla has done to the big 3 what Amazon did to Target, Walmart, Bed Bath and Beyond, Frys Electronics, Macy's, etc... they figured out the flaws in product and service and found what the customers prefer then improved upon it as opposed to simply running the same way hoping for better results. The Big-3 aren't doing anything differnt today then they did 100 years ago aside fro relying more heavily on advertising but their assemebly, products, and managerial business never adapted to the times. GM still is up $11.2B from the bailout scam

Tesla is many years ahead of any other EV mfg in terms of technology, in terms of charging, in terms of how they treat custmers when purchasing a vehicle. in terms of their pricing models with regards to service and parts (which is one of two profit centers at the big 3 the other being F&I which is where they reeally rape their victims).
A lot of good information. And also a lot of bias and hate against the current dealership model. If you only knew how many people are employed by one franchise dealer and benefits a county and states get out of it, your comment would have had a more positive vibe.

Just one example. My F&I guy makes a decent living. And he is by no means a rich person. A sole bread winner for his family. Has a mortgage, a couple of Honda vehicles in his household and three kids. Just came back from a short one week vacation from Buffalo, NY. Just think about his personal contribution to the American economy and its future. And yes, franchise dealership model enabled an opportunity like this for this family to have a good life.

You think concentrating power in one man's hand is a good thing for consumers? Be careful what you wish for, my friend. Your job security can be indirectly affected by this F&Y guys success in life. And vice versa.
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Quote from zenob :
. deleted - info added to original post.
If you earn more than the limit, simply open an LLC and makle no to little money with it then your business will qualify and you can write the whole thing off as a loss.

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Quote from VicVinegar :
Looked around earlier in the year. Inventory was low even before they discontinued it. What is left is often being marked up by useless middlemen. So good luck. Good deal otherwise.
Same.. called 4 different dealers. The cheapest had over 2k markup for "dealer protection". When I inquired what that was.. some plastic they stick on the hood.. yeah bs...
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Quote from thcheat :
Those who are complaining about their dealer jacking up the prices, use build and buy option. It'll take some time to get car and will cost extra 995 for shipping but you'll get car of your color and design choice and only $1000 over advertised price, which is far less than dealer price.

Some dealers will even match that price if they have in inventory. YMMV.
In nj with all the rebates I ordered my perfect bolt for MSRP.
Any bolts "in stock" were already sold before they arrived at $4000 over msrp.
What is another 20k on a 2004 jeep while I wait.
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What's the acceleration 0 to 60.
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Quote from Cecerious :
It's no wonder why their cars catch on fire. Chevy should really think about hiring new electrical engineers.

I though this was a typo on the OP's part, but the website does indeed state a 40 amp breaker on a NEMA 14-50 outlet. Umm talk about a code violation.

(Keep in mind that this is a universal outlet install, NOT a direct wiring install. So the breaker NEEDS to be sized to the maximum load limit, not just the load limit of the primary device that's going to be installed on it.)
Home wiring and electrical codes is the domain of electricians, not electrical engineers.
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Quote from 221b :
Hate when people include tax credits into price that not everyone qualifies for without all the info, it's a little misleading in these ev/Tesla threads. This requires a tax liability of $7500 or more that you get after you file and is not point of sale. Also max income of $150-300k for single/married filers to qualify. Also there is nothing new here, this is MSRP, info on tax credit, and the charger install was always included with bolt purchase.
It's crucial to clarify that tax liability and taxes owed at filing are different concepts; you don't necessarily need to owe taxes at filing to fully benefit from the $7500 EV tax credit. For instance, if you're expecting a $2000 tax return, but over the course of the year as a W2 employee, you've paid at least $7500 in income tax (an achievable figure given a 25% effective tax rate on an annual pay of about $30k), you're still eligible to receive the full EV tax credit. This means that your tax refund would increase from the initial $2000 to a total of $9500.
Last edited by alexsemi June 4, 2023 at 11:34 AM.
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I think paying extra $5k or so and getting a base Tesla model 3 is a much better idea than this discontinued Bolt. Just my humble opinion.
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$6-7k more and you got a Model 3. Also a pretty good car but you gotta deal with Tesla 🤢

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Quote from Surferdudemi :
So you're saying that the Bolt battery pack is not cooled? The Volt was, and I expect that the Bolt is as well.
Wait, GM had Volt then Bolt?
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