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2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT + $7500 Tax Credit + In-Home Charger Install

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$26,500

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Chevrolet is offering the 2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT Electric Car + Home Charger Installation (terms apply) available from $26,500. You will also qualify for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member DC13 for sharing this deal.
  • Note: Pricing and availability will vary depending on your selected options and available inventory.
About this Car:
  • EPA-Estimate 259-Mile electric range on full charge
  • 200 Horsepower / 266 lb ft of Torque
  • 65 kWh Battery
  • Seats up to 5
  • Automatic Emergency Braking
  • Front Pedestrian Braking
  • Lane Keep Assist
  • Forward Collision Alert
  • Auto High Beam Headlights
  • 10.2" Infotainment system with Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, Alexa & More

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Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • Home Charger Installation Offer requires following the steps located on the Offer Page here.
    • Offer available to eligible customers who purchase or lease a 2022 or 2023 Bolt EV or Bolt EUV. Home charging installation promotion includes purchase and installation of a 240V outlet (NEMA 14-50 outlet and new 40-amp breaker in existing panel) from a GM selected vendor.
    • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
      • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
      • $225,000 for heads of households
      • $150,000 for all other filers
    • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional deal details & discussion.
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Chevrolet is offering the 2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT Electric Car + Home Charger Installation (terms apply) available from $26,500. You will also qualify for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member DC13 for sharing this deal.
  • Note: Pricing and availability will vary depending on your selected options and available inventory.
About this Car:
  • EPA-Estimate 259-Mile electric range on full charge
  • 200 Horsepower / 266 lb ft of Torque
  • 65 kWh Battery
  • Seats up to 5
  • Automatic Emergency Braking
  • Front Pedestrian Braking
  • Lane Keep Assist
  • Forward Collision Alert
  • Auto High Beam Headlights
  • 10.2" Infotainment system with Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, Alexa & More

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • Home Charger Installation Offer requires following the steps located on the Offer Page here.
    • Offer available to eligible customers who purchase or lease a 2022 or 2023 Bolt EV or Bolt EUV. Home charging installation promotion includes purchase and installation of a 240V outlet (NEMA 14-50 outlet and new 40-amp breaker in existing panel) from a GM selected vendor.
    • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
      • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
      • $225,000 for heads of households
      • $150,000 for all other filers
    • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional deal details & discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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221b
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Hate when people include tax credits into price that not everyone qualifies for without all the info, it's a little misleading in these ev/Tesla threads. This requires a tax liability of $7500 or more that you get after you file and is not point of sale. Also max income of $150-300k for single/married filers to qualify. Also there is nothing new here, this is MSRP, info on tax credit, and the charger install was always included with bolt purchase (since Feb '21)

edit: For clarification from the wiki: "The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due."
So lower income people will not get a $7500 refund, it depends on your liability. i.e. A SDer responded about a student being angry in a previous thread that they only got $500 back and not $7500.
Dr. J
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LOL no.

Virtually all of the ICE vehicle can be recycled. Generally the only items not recyclable per se will be interior trim - it's mixed plastic and rubber. Engine? steel or aluminum. Gearcases? Steel or aluminum. Body, frame, etc, steel or aluminum. In fact, about 86% of a car can be recycled [recyclenation.com].

Meanwhile your EV will still have a fully and readily recyclable frame and body, just like the ICE. The motor will generally be recyclable. The battery? Not really. Generally batteries and battery packs are not really designed for recycling. Most are just thousands of individual cylindrical cells, that themselves are spiral wound multilayer structures. There's no easy way to separate the materials here. An ICE, you literally rip out the engine with heavy equipment and include it in with any other steel or aluminum - the process is astonishingly easy and quick [youtube.com] with heavy equipment.

Meanwhile, the batteries are generally just shredded [ucsusa.org]. The resulting material is called "black mass" and is placed into a bath of caustic chemicals to leech out the *important* elements. In certain cases, that black mass is first incinerated to burn off plastic and epoxies. Yeah that sounds super efficient and environmental to me.
truckin76
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So basically these cars could simply be like you iphone or Guarraty disposable product. Please upgrade and throw your old one in the trash. So much for saving the environment and saving money.

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Jun 04, 2023 07:23 PM
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iumichaelJun 04, 2023 07:23 PM
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank iumichael

Quote from BB3786 :
Not a good deal given dealers huge markup, fire hazard concern and product discontinuation. Tesla model 3 is only 3k more, NO markup, and much better quality plus resale value.
How are new Bolts a fire hazard? Or even older ones that have had the battery replaced? I bought a Bolt last week and paid no markup. I have no regrets. Perhaps we should just be glad we've both found EVs we're happy with and instead of bashing each other's vehicles, we support other EV owners to help the development of EVs in general.
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triggerhappy007Jun 04, 2023 07:27 PM
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Quote from babygdav :
What also should be calculated and posted is the roi on these vs a gas sedan, especially for a 10 year and 20 year ownership length.

...

For example, for me, when I did the math a few years ago with a $35k bolt vs $18k Versa, I'd have to drive the Versa 126k to 250k miles (depending on millage, worse to best average) BEFORE I'd even exceed $35k (Versa + gas).

Exceed 10 years or so, and every ev is faced with the HORRIBLE $5-20k battery replacement cost.

So for long term owners like me (17 years on my current car), EV cars make utterly no sense at all roi wise (even after calculating for other repairs). I'd literally be tossing cash out the open window year in, year out.
...

That said, if America simply imported the slew of dirt-cheap EVs from China (https://www.wired.com/story/revie...g-mini-ev/), or even low priced from Japan (https://insideevs.com/news/587101...ars-japan/), I'd go for those.
You'll have to update the math because GM lowered the price by about $6000 last year, plus it's eligible for up to $7500 tax credit again.
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iumichaelJun 04, 2023 07:27 PM
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Quote from SociablePen252 :
No...because stealerships are taking advantage by stealing these incentives from taxpayers with a ridiculous markup. I've seen around 5k markup on average. Made me vow never to ever shop at any Chevy dealership.
During my Bolt search last month, I found 4 dealers selling at MSRP. One of which didn't even charge a doc fee. The ones price gouging I agree, I will never shop at in the future. Tesla in some ways is better, but their prices have been all over the place the last couple of years. But at least their pricing is more transparent.
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KnightshadeJun 04, 2023 07:29 PM
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Quote from iumichael :
It has the same crash test rating as a M3... 5/5
That's part of the problem with the ratings, they're so lacking in granularity you can't get a ton of useful info.

If you drill down into the data you find Teslas have the lowest chance of injury of any cars on the road though.


https://www.tesla.com/blog/model-...sted-nhtsa

Quote from Tesla regarding Model 3 test results :
NHTSA's tests also show that it has the lowest probability of injury of all cars the safety agency has ever tested.
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Quote :
Model 3 achieved a Vehicle Safety Score of 0.38, which is lower than any other vehicle rated in NHTSA's public documents. By multiplying the Vehicle Safety Score by NHTSA's 15% baseline figure, we arrived at an overall probability of injury for Model 3 of 5.7%. Applying the same calculation to each of the vehicles rated in NHTSA's documents, we found that Model S achieved an overall probability of injury of 6.3%, and Model X achieved an overall probability of injury of 6.5%, making them the vehicles with the second and third lowest probabilities of injury, respectively, based on NHTSA's publicly-available data and records.
Last edited by Knightshade June 4, 2023 at 01:32 PM.
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iumichaelJun 04, 2023 07:36 PM
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Quote from Knightshade :
That's part of the problem with the ratings, they're so lacking in granularity you can't get a ton of useful info.

If you drill down into the data you find Teslas have the lowest chance of injury of any cars on the road though.


https://www.tesla.com/blog/model-...sted-nhtsa



and
M3 is better at avoiding crashes I've seen. I don't disagree with what your most recent post shows. Could you please cite anything backing up your initial "death trap" claim on the Bolt though?
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haydeecmJun 04, 2023 07:48 PM
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This is a smoking deal if you can get it!! I have been chasing this for weeks, but the dealers I have gone to have a markup on orders, and dont even have any on the floor, and they wouldnt even order the LT trim, saying they didnt know if they could fulfill the orders.

Ended up getting a new Tesla model 3 RWD yesterday when inventory models were discounted to $37,800 and tax credit was increased to full $7500. Didnt think I could get into a Tesla for around $30k
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KnightshadeJun 04, 2023 07:48 PM
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Quote from iumichael :
. Could you please cite anything backing up your initial "death trap" claim on the Bolt though?

Can you please cite where I ever wrote such a thing?
(spoiler: I did not)

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sat4funJun 04, 2023 07:49 PM
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Quote from 221b :
Hate when people include tax credits into price that not everyone qualifies for without all the info, it's a little misleading in these ev/Tesla threads. This requires a tax liability of $7500 or more that you get after you file and is not point of sale. Also max income of $150-300k for single/married filers to qualify. Also there is nothing new here, this is MSRP, info on tax credit, and the charger install was always included with bolt purchase.
Since when do tax credits require liability? It's not a deduction, it's a credit. Are you saying if I'm getting a refund I will not get a credit? This is not true.
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BuddyLove99Jun 04, 2023 07:51 PM
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Quote from bachle.2105 :
Chevy makes the most reliable EV and im sure we all know that
Joke? I thought Tesla had the no. 1 spot 🤔
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lev280Jun 04, 2023 07:52 PM
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Quote from thcheat :
Better call them or go to dealership. They don't make as much money because they can't markup. So, you may not be a priority.
I did call. I was told that the rep. handling my order will call me back. That was last week. I tried placing a new order with a different dealership and the Chevy website didn't let me.
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BuddyLove99Jun 04, 2023 07:53 PM
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How do you buy this and get credit under LLC?
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KnightshadeJun 04, 2023 07:56 PM
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Quote from sat4fun :
Since when do tax credits require liability? It's not a deduction, it's a credit. Are you saying if I'm getting a refund I will not get a credit? This is not true.
They always require liability if they are non-refundable credits, as this (and many others) are.

Again "if I normally get a refund" is irrelevant to this.

Line 16 of your 1040 is relevant.



Quote from BuddyLove99 :
Joke? I thought Tesla had the no. 1 spot 🤔
Tesla has the lowest warranty claims rate of any car maker in the US (slightly ahead of Toyota overall last 2 years of available data but it's very close).

The problem with that is while all Teslas are EVs, only a tiny fraction of Chevys are-- so if you compare the much worse warranty claim rate of all Chevys you're not really getting much indication how reliable their EVs, specifically, are, in that mass of claims data.
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np1050Jun 04, 2023 07:58 PM
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We have a 2017 Premier and it's a great little car. Personally I love it. Just a word of warning though, this is still an econobox. The suspension isn't great. On smooth roads, no big deal but if your roads are crap, your passengers may notice. Going over bumps is jarring, like you can't sing a song and keep tune.
This is as cheap as it will get for EVs. GM is cancelling this car at the end of the year, mainly because it's not profitable. The new entry level car will be their equinox EV and you can bet it will be significantly more expensive. Starting price most likely low 30s

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vess68Jun 04, 2023 08:02 PM
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Placed an order for the Chevy Bolt EUV about 3 weeks ago. Expected delivery is end of July. Got the base model but added couple of packages for safety and convenience which brought the price to about 31k before the 7.5k tax credit which we barely qualify for. The tax credit is what tipped the scale for me, plus I estimate I will be saving at least $120/month in fuel cost. Also, Chevy is paying $1k toward the install of a L2 charger so that's a plus. The vehicle will be our everyday driver (wife and I use one vehicle to go to work), but I am keeping an ICE vehicle as well for those drives longer than 90 miles one way.

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