Beginning in 2024, everyone under the income limit qualifies for the full $7,500 rebate. It does not matter if you owe less than that in taxes, and you can get it at the time of purchase instead of waiting for next year's taxes.
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frontpageDC13 posted Jun 03, 2023 09:12 PM
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frontpageDC13 posted Jun 03, 2023 09:12 PM
2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT + $7500 Tax Credit + In-Home Charger Install
(For Qualifying Buyers)from $26500
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edit: For clarification from the wiki: "The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due."
So lower income people will not get a $7500 refund, it depends on your liability. i.e. A SDer responded about a student being angry in a previous thread that they only got $500 back and not $7500.
Virtually all of the ICE vehicle can be recycled. Generally the only items not recyclable per se will be interior trim - it's mixed plastic and rubber. Engine? steel or aluminum. Gearcases? Steel or aluminum. Body, frame, etc, steel or aluminum. In fact, about 86% of a car can be recycled [recyclenation.com].
Meanwhile your EV will still have a fully and readily recyclable frame and body, just like the ICE. The motor will generally be recyclable. The battery? Not really. Generally batteries and battery packs are not really designed for recycling. Most are just thousands of individual cylindrical cells, that themselves are spiral wound multilayer structures. There's no easy way to separate the materials here. An ICE, you literally rip out the engine with heavy equipment and include it in with any other steel or aluminum - the process is astonishingly easy and quick [youtube.com] with heavy equipment.
Meanwhile, the batteries are generally just shredded [ucsusa.org]. The resulting material is called "black mass" and is placed into a bath of caustic chemicals to leech out the *important* elements. In certain cases, that black mass is first incinerated to burn off plastic and epoxies. Yeah that sounds super efficient and environmental to me.
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This is just cringe. You're telling someone with a gas car that refuels quickly and travels at a consistent range on trips, that has fuel pumps easily available most places, to trade their car in for one that is only reliably charged at home.
Imagine pitching the military on a warship that can't leave the coastline of your country and imagine how well that would go. I can't believe adults are backing arguments like this to support the transition to EVs. This is something you expect to hear from a 12-year-old who doesn't understand how the working adult world works.
Pathetic.
32k build car minus 2k = 30k + tax + documentation + registration = 33k -7.5k tax credit = 25.5k at the end for me
you guys think its worth flying out and then driving back 7 hours to get MSRP pricing ?
incentives:
- GM supplier discount (500)
- NY Clean Drive NYSEDRA (2000)
Design Code V53I0C (Driver Confidence Package, Comfort Package, Convenience Package)
msrp: 31,880
((((31880-2000)*1.086250)+50+379+200)-500)
= 32,586 Out the door purchase price
= -7500 max tax incentive
25,086
32k build car minus 2k = 30k + tax + documentation + registration = 33k -7.5k tax credit = 25.5k at the end for me
you guys think its worth flying out and then driving back 7 hours to get MSRP pricing ?
32k build car minus 2k = 30k + tax + documentation + registration = 33k -7.5k tax credit = 25.5k at the end for me
you guys think its worth flying out and then driving back 7 hours to get MSRP pricing ?
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Most people drive 10-30 miles a day on average.
A normal 120v plug will give you that back with no special outlet needed while you sleep.
I can see why you got that reaction...and from your posts they were clearly right about the idea.
I assume those higher-rated outletss on underrated breakers are allowed under the assumption dedicated load is there forever. Which isn't quite true for cars.
I would go full 4 wire 6 gauge if I was doing one now and skip the 40 amp compromise, Actually, I'd just run a new whole subpanel
Keep on mind that GM has discontinued the Bolt. Parts may be harder to come by in 5-10 years.
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It is insane that car dealers add premium to Cars' MSRP in the US.
This crazy thing should be illegal and stopped.
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