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frontpageDC13 posted Jun 03, 2023 09:12 PM
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2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT + $7500 Tax Credit + In-Home Charger Install

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from $26500

$26,500

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Chevrolet is offering the 2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT Electric Car + Home Charger Installation (terms apply) available from $26,500. You will also qualify for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member DC13 for sharing this deal.
  • Note: Pricing and availability will vary depending on your selected options and available inventory.
About this Car:
  • EPA-Estimate 259-Mile electric range on full charge
  • 200 Horsepower / 266 lb ft of Torque
  • 65 kWh Battery
  • Seats up to 5
  • Automatic Emergency Braking
  • Front Pedestrian Braking
  • Lane Keep Assist
  • Forward Collision Alert
  • Auto High Beam Headlights
  • 10.2" Infotainment system with Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, Alexa & More

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Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • Home Charger Installation Offer requires following the steps located on the Offer Page here.
    • Offer available to eligible customers who purchase or lease a 2022 or 2023 Bolt EV or Bolt EUV. Home charging installation promotion includes purchase and installation of a 240V outlet (NEMA 14-50 outlet and new 40-amp breaker in existing panel) from a GM selected vendor.
    • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
      • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
      • $225,000 for heads of households
      • $150,000 for all other filers
    • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional deal details & discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Chevrolet is offering the 2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT Electric Car + Home Charger Installation (terms apply) available from $26,500. You will also qualify for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member DC13 for sharing this deal.
  • Note: Pricing and availability will vary depending on your selected options and available inventory.
About this Car:
  • EPA-Estimate 259-Mile electric range on full charge
  • 200 Horsepower / 266 lb ft of Torque
  • 65 kWh Battery
  • Seats up to 5
  • Automatic Emergency Braking
  • Front Pedestrian Braking
  • Lane Keep Assist
  • Forward Collision Alert
  • Auto High Beam Headlights
  • 10.2" Infotainment system with Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, Alexa & More

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • Home Charger Installation Offer requires following the steps located on the Offer Page here.
    • Offer available to eligible customers who purchase or lease a 2022 or 2023 Bolt EV or Bolt EUV. Home charging installation promotion includes purchase and installation of a 240V outlet (NEMA 14-50 outlet and new 40-amp breaker in existing panel) from a GM selected vendor.
    • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
      • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
      • $225,000 for heads of households
      • $150,000 for all other filers
    • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional deal details & discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Hate when people include tax credits into price that not everyone qualifies for without all the info, it's a little misleading in these ev/Tesla threads. This requires a tax liability of $7500 or more that you get after you file and is not point of sale. Also max income of $150-300k for single/married filers to qualify. Also there is nothing new here, this is MSRP, info on tax credit, and the charger install was always included with bolt purchase (since Feb '21)

edit: For clarification from the wiki: "The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due."
So lower income people will not get a $7500 refund, it depends on your liability. i.e. A SDer responded about a student being angry in a previous thread that they only got $500 back and not $7500.
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LOL no.

Virtually all of the ICE vehicle can be recycled. Generally the only items not recyclable per se will be interior trim - it's mixed plastic and rubber. Engine? steel or aluminum. Gearcases? Steel or aluminum. Body, frame, etc, steel or aluminum. In fact, about 86% of a car can be recycled [recyclenation.com].

Meanwhile your EV will still have a fully and readily recyclable frame and body, just like the ICE. The motor will generally be recyclable. The battery? Not really. Generally batteries and battery packs are not really designed for recycling. Most are just thousands of individual cylindrical cells, that themselves are spiral wound multilayer structures. There's no easy way to separate the materials here. An ICE, you literally rip out the engine with heavy equipment and include it in with any other steel or aluminum - the process is astonishingly easy and quick [youtube.com] with heavy equipment.

Meanwhile, the batteries are generally just shredded [ucsusa.org]. The resulting material is called "black mass" and is placed into a bath of caustic chemicals to leech out the *important* elements. In certain cases, that black mass is first incinerated to burn off plastic and epoxies. Yeah that sounds super efficient and environmental to me.
truckin76
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So basically these cars could simply be like you iphone or Guarraty disposable product. Please upgrade and throw your old one in the trash. So much for saving the environment and saving money.

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Jun 05, 2023 01:37 AM
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Eagles89Jun 05, 2023 01:37 AM
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Quote from yhlee7 :
Why can we buy cars more cheaply from car manufacturers?

It is insane that car dealers add premium to Cars' MSRP in the US.

This crazy thing should be illegal and stopped.
If you cut out the salespeople from your company, your company will go bankrupt overnight. I guarantee it.
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DonJTrumpJun 05, 2023 01:42 AM
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If I had federal taxes of 7500 and I had 7500 withheld from my paycheck, so that I have zero federal tax due, do I get a refund of 7500 if I buy this EV?
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chefpJun 05, 2023 01:42 AM
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Quote from Eagles89 :
Actually, it is going to become a problem because most homes don't have the spare amps needed to charge a car. They will have to upgrade their panel, which will be thousands of dollars.
There's no minimum required power for EV charging. They can be charged with 120v 8A if that's all that's available. 240v at 16A is easily attainable with any panel. The car or EVSE can be set to match the circuit's rating.
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Eagles89Jun 05, 2023 01:43 AM
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Quote from DonJTrump :
If I had federal taxes of 7500 and I had 7500 withheld from my paycheck, so that I have zero federal tax due, do I get a refund of 7500 if I buy this EV?
Yes but you would be dumb to withhold 7500 if you are expecting a 7500 tax credit.
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koge811Jun 05, 2023 01:43 AM
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Quote from WhatIsSlicking :
found reputable dealer that will do MSRP on order plus NY incentive (2,000)
32k build car minus 2k = 30k + tax + documentation + registration = 33k -7.5k tax credit = 25.5k at the end for me

you guys think its worth flying out and then driving back 7 hours to get MSRP pricing ?
Dealers are useless then if you need to do all that just to get msrp.

Just an extra cost that serve no purpose.

Ordering directly from manufacturer and cut everyone else out let car dealers all go belly up they offer nothing
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Eagles89Jun 05, 2023 01:44 AM
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Quote from chefp :
There's no minimum required power for EV charging. They can be charged with 120v 8A if that's all that's available. 240v at 16A is easily attainable with any panel. The car or EVSE can be set to match the circuit's rating.
Just plugged in those numbers. It would take you 71.3 hours to charge at 120v/8A
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Eagles89Jun 05, 2023 01:47 AM
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Quote from koge811 :
Ordering directly from manufacturer and cut everyone else out let car dealers all go belly up they offer nothing
This is like saying a company can sell stuff without doing any marketing at all. It doesn't work like that unless you are a well known established brand with no competition.
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KnightshadeJun 05, 2023 01:50 AM
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Quote from DonJTrump :
If I had federal taxes of 7500 and I had 7500 withheld from my paycheck, so that I have zero federal tax due, do I get a refund of 7500 if I buy this EV?

Your withholdings have nothing to do with the tax credit

If you have $7500 of tax liability then you get the full value of the credit.

You don't even look at withholdings until later on the 1040.



Quote from Eagles89 :
If you cut out the salespeople from your company, your company will go bankrupt overnight. I guarantee it.

Dealers aren't employees of the car company though so that analogy...isn't one.



Quote from Eagles89 :
Just plugged in those numbers. It would take you 71.3 hours to charge at 120v/8A

Unless you drive 259 miles every day your math has a pretty big flaw.

Most americans drive 30 miles or less, meaning you can easily get back used range every night with a normal 120v plug.
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Eagles89Jun 05, 2023 01:54 AM
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Quote from Knightshade :
Most americans drive 30 miles or less, meaning you can easily get back used range every night with a normal 120v plug.
You don't understand math at all. The charging curve isn't flat. Charging power declines exponentially, so it will still take you almost 71 hours to charge those 30 miles.
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NorcalpalmtreesJun 05, 2023 01:55 AM
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Quote from andyh10s :
Scumbag Bay Area dealers marking this up to $30k base price…
I know Dublin Chevrolet wasn't. Things could of changed.
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KnightshadeJun 05, 2023 01:55 AM
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Quote from Eagles89 :
You don't understand math at all.
I'm not the one who thinks anybody needs to charge almost 72 hours to get back a normal days driving my dude LMAO



Quote from Eagles89 :
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The charging curve isn't flat. Charging power declines exponentially, so it will still take you almost 71 hours to charge those 30 miles.
Absolute flat out lie.
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MikeVanTsoJun 05, 2023 01:56 AM
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Quote from Cecerious :
It's no wonder why their cars catch on fire. Chevy should really think about hiring new electrical engineers.

I though this was a typo on the OP's part, but the website does indeed state a 40 amp breaker on a NEMA 14-50 outlet. Umm talk about a code violation.

(Keep in mind that this is a universal outlet install, NOT a direct wiring install. So the breaker NEEDS to be sized to the maximum load limit, not just the load limit of the primary device that's going to be installed on it.)
A 50 amp receptacle on a 40 amp breaker is not a code violation. See NEC 210.24
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Eagles89Jun 05, 2023 01:56 AM
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Quote from Knightshade :
Absolute flat out lie.
You can test it out yourself. Charge your phone from 0% and charge it from 90%. It will take the same exact amount of time.
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wineauxJun 05, 2023 02:02 AM
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Quote from OceanTwelve :
Chevy is infamous for battery issues. I'd be wary of charging this in an indoor garage. GM themselves warned consumers not to.
There was an issue with a crimp being put into the individual battery cell packs during manufacture. This has been fixed at the factory, and affected battery packs replaced.

There was a problem, it was addressed, and fixed.
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wineauxJun 05, 2023 02:04 AM
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Quote from Knightshade :
I'm not the one who thinks anybody needs to charge almost 72 hours to get back a normal days driving my dude LMAO





Absolute flat out lie.
Sorry, the charge to 80% is very fast, but that last 20% can take a very long time. That's why is EV owners usually only charge to 80% at a DC fast charger.
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