Beginning in 2024, everyone under the income limit qualifies for the full $7,500 rebate. It does not matter if you owe less than that in taxes, and you can get it at the time of purchase instead of waiting for next year's taxes.
https://www.npr.org/2023/12/28/12...ford-vw-gm
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expiredDC13 posted Jun 3, 2023 9:12 PM
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edit: For clarification from the wiki: "The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due."
So lower income people will not get a $7500 refund, it depends on your liability. i.e. A SDer responded about a student being angry in a previous thread that they only got $500 back and not $7500.
Virtually all of the ICE vehicle can be recycled. Generally the only items not recyclable per se will be interior trim - it's mixed plastic and rubber. Engine? steel or aluminum. Gearcases? Steel or aluminum. Body, frame, etc, steel or aluminum. In fact, about 86% of a car can be recycled [recyclenation.com].
Meanwhile your EV will still have a fully and readily recyclable frame and body, just like the ICE. The motor will generally be recyclable. The battery? Not really. Generally batteries and battery packs are not really designed for recycling. Most are just thousands of individual cylindrical cells, that themselves are spiral wound multilayer structures. There's no easy way to separate the materials here. An ICE, you literally rip out the engine with heavy equipment and include it in with any other steel or aluminum - the process is astonishingly easy and quick [youtube.com] with heavy equipment.
Meanwhile, the batteries are generally just shredded [ucsusa.org]. The resulting material is called "black mass" and is placed into a bath of caustic chemicals to leech out the *important* elements. In certain cases, that black mass is first incinerated to burn off plastic and epoxies. Yeah that sounds super efficient and environmental to me.
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I'm looking at the Bolt or a Camry hybrid. Had a Tesla. Too many rattles and a few other issues. Though Tesla was pretty good at addressing them except for a few rattles that no one there could seem to address.
I'm looking at the Bolt or a Camry hybrid. Had a Tesla. Too many rattles and a few other issues. Though Tesla was pretty good at addressing them except for a few rattles that no one there could seem to address.
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People in NYC take public transit or the occasional bus or taxi. Owning a car there of any kind is nuts.
Anyway, as I said about 2 out of every 3 people live in a single family house in the US.
Where they can cheaply and easily charge at home.
Your hysteria about the minority in high rise apartments notwithstanding.
Over their lifetime, including their end of life the produce vastly less waste than gas cars.
For example:
https://www.tesla.com/support/sus...-recycling
More facts though so you don't care
You realize you ALSO don't pay the federal gas tax of 18.4 cents a gall either right?
Meaning EV drivers in Indiana are actually saving almost 2x the amount you suggest.
Meaning it'd take only half those 20k miles to break even on the fuel tax saved.
Which is below the average # of miles driven.
All that said- they will need to come up with a better long term solution federally.... since the feds have no easy way to collect annual registration $ like the state does the answer is probably just let the states collect all the $ lost in both state AND federal fuel taxes to EVs, and just reduce the amount of $ the feds supply to states since they're not getting that fuel tax revenue anymore.
People in NYC take public transit or the occasional bus or taxi. Owning a car there of any kind is nuts.
Anyway, as I said about 2 out of every 3 people live in a single family house in the US.
Where they can cheaply and easily charge at home.
Your hysteria about the minority in high rise apartments notwithstanding.
Yes you've been very clear you don't want to hear facts and don't care about them
I mean, we have 10 years of data from Tesla showing they retain 85-90% of their charge after 200,000 miles.... but again that's one of those pesky facts you don't care about!
Meanwhile back in reality EV batteries are recycled.
Over their lifetime, including their end of life the produce vastly less waste than gas cars.
For example:
https://www.tesla.com/support/sus...-recycling [tesla.com]
More facts though so you don't care
You realize you ALSO don't pay the federal gas tax of 18.4 cents a gall either right?
Meaning EV drivers in Indiana are actually saving almost 2x the amount you suggest.
Meaning it'd take only half those 20k miles to break even on the fuel tax saved.
Which is below the average # of miles driven.
All that said- they will need to come up with a better long term solution federally.... since the feds have no easy way to collect annual registration $ like the state does the answer is probably just let the states collect all the $ lost in both state AND federal fuel taxes to EVs, and just reduce the amount of $ the feds supply to states since they're not getting that fuel tax revenue anymore.
I can't do this anymore.
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I can't do this anymore.
Literally nobody believes you will stop trolling my dude
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