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https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp...3-bf0797nr
- 13.3" 2.8K (2880x1800, WQXGA+) 16:10, 400-nits, 500 nits HDR, 100% DCI-P3, Corning Gorilla Glass NBT, Glossy, 360-degree, OLED Display
- Core i7-1250U (2P+8E)/12T CPU (4.7 GHz Turbo, 12MB Cache)
- Intel Iris Xe Graphics (96 EU)
- 16GB LPDDR4X-4266 MHz Ram
- 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
- Backlit Keyboard
- HP True Vision 5MP IR camera with camera shutter, Windows Hello
- Intel Wi-Fi 6E AX211 (2x2) and BT 5.2
- Accelerometer; eCompass; Gyroscope; IR Thermal sensor; Ambient light sensor
- 4-cell, 66 Whr Li-ion polymer Battery
- 2.95 lbs.
- Model: 13-bf0797nr
- Ports:
- 2x Thunderbolt 4 with USB4 Type-C 40Gbps (Power Delivery, DisplayPort 1.4, HP Sleep and Charge)
- 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A 10 Gbps (1 HP Sleep & Charge)
- 1x MicroSD Card Reader
- 1x Audio Combo Jack
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp...3-bf0797nr
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SPECS:
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp...3-bf0797nr
- 13.3" 2.8K (2880x1800, WQXGA+) 16:10, 400-nits, 500 nits HDR, 100% DCI-P3, Corning Gorilla Glass NBT, Glossy, 360-degree, OLED Display
- Core i7-1250U (2P+8E)/12T CPU (4.7 GHz Turbo, 12MB Cache)
- Intel Iris Xe Graphics (96 EU)
- 16GB LPDDR4X-4266 MHz Ram
- 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
- Backlit Keyboard
- HP True Vision 5MP IR camera with camera shutter, Windows Hello
- Intel Wi-Fi 6E AX211 (2x2) and BT 5.2
- Accelerometer; eCompass; Gyroscope; IR Thermal sensor; Ambient light sensor
- 4-cell, 66 Whr Li-ion polymer Battery
- 2.95 lbs.
- Model: 13-bf0797nr
- Ports:
- 2x Thunderbolt 4 with USB4 Type-C 40Gbps (Power Delivery, DisplayPort 1.4, HP Sleep and Charge)
- 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A 10 Gbps (1 HP Sleep & Charge)
- 1x MicroSD Card Reader
- 1x Audio Combo Jack
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp...3-bf0797nr
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- The CPU is objectively great, as is the case with most Intel Alder Lake 12 generation CPUs. However, the specific CPU is the U-series efficiency models built using 2 Performance + 8 Efficiency cores. This is appropriate in something like the Envy which sits, in part, in the thin & light category. However, I might prefer at this premium price point something like one of the P-series performance models with 4 (or greater) Performance + 8 Efficiency cores.
- The screen is going to be beautiful, but the high resolution is going to present two challenges. First, high resolution screens remain problematic for those (admittedly few) applications which fail to work well with Windows scaling. I regularly make use of academic software that defaults to being an eye chart on my current Spectre's 4k screen. Using an external monitor can also bring into play another scaling compatibility bug where apps get blurry (was just helping someone troubleshoot this with Matlab a few months ago).
- Though the Envy models are very sleek, the Spectre models take it to another level and it really tends to show. Recent Spectre models have had some divisive design choices. However, despite very small dimensional differences there is always a significantly different feel to my own Spectre and a newer Envy model that I daily drive at home (the Envy being a newer model I purchased for my spouse).
Good luck!The other issue for high resolution OLED panels is the baseline power draw. Overall, with a screen this small I think 1080p provides a solid balance of picture quality, power draw, and broad compatibility.
Jon
- The CPU is objectively great, as is the case with most Intel Alder Lake 12 generation CPUs. However, the specific CPU is the U-series efficiency models built using 2 Performance + 8 Efficiency cores. This is appropriate in something like the Envy which sits, in part, in the thin & light category. However, I might prefer at this premium price point something like one of the P-series performance models with 4 (or greater) Performance + 8 Efficiency cores.
- The screen is going to be beautiful, but the high resolution is going to present two challenges. First, high resolution screens remain problematic for those (admittedly few) applications which fail to work well with Windows scaling. I regularly make use of academic software that defaults to being an eye chart on my current Spectre's 4k screen. Using an external monitor can also bring into play another scaling compatibility bug where apps get blurry (was just helping someone troubleshoot this with Matlab a few months ago).
- Though the Envy models are very sleek, the Spectre models take it to another level and it really tends to show. Recent Spectre models have had some divisive design choices. However, despite very small dimensional differences there is always a significantly different feel to my own Spectre and a newer Envy model that I daily drive at home (the Envy being a newer model I purchased for my spouse).
Good luck!The other issue for high resolution OLED panels is the baseline power draw. Overall, with a screen this small I think 1080p provides a solid balance of picture quality, power draw, and broad compatibility.
Jon
- The CPU is objectively great, as is the case with most Intel Alder Lake 12 generation CPUs. However, the specific CPU is the U-series efficiency models built using 2 Performance + 8 Efficiency cores. This is appropriate in something like the Envy which sits, in part, in the thin & light category. However, I might prefer at this premium price point something like one of the P-series performance models with 4 (or greater) Performance + 8 Efficiency cores.
- The screen is going to be beautiful, but the high resolution is going to present two challenges. First, high resolution screens remain problematic for those (admittedly few) applications which fail to work well with Windows scaling. I regularly make use of academic software that defaults to being an eye chart on my current Spectre's 4k screen. Using an external monitor can also bring into play another scaling compatibility bug where apps get blurry (was just helping someone troubleshoot this with Matlab a few months ago).
- Though the Envy models are very sleek, the Spectre models take it to another level and it really tends to show. Recent Spectre models have had some divisive design choices. However, despite very small dimensional differences there is always a significantly different feel to my own Spectre and a newer Envy model that I daily drive at home (the Envy being a newer model I purchased for my spouse).
Good luck!The other issue for high resolution OLED panels is the baseline power draw. Overall, with a screen this small I think 1080p provides a solid balance of picture quality, power draw, and broad compatibility.
Jon
I've wondered about the OLED screens. Does having a dark/black background and using dark theme help a lot? I know on phones it typically makes some difference.
Your particular use case sounds ideal for something like almost any of the Microsoft Surface devices. Tablet and laptop Surface models have support for standard pen inputs. You don't necessarily get high-performance specs, but what is available is usually a solid, long-term productivity platform for Excel/browsing/Minecraft/etc. while still being a fairly sleek package for the price point. The price point / value proposition tends to demand a premium over commodity laptops (think clunky but high-value 15.6" laptops at $300-500) while comparing reasonably with properly high-end models (something like a Dell XPS which tend to combine premium build quality and high performance).
Typically the Surface Laptop series have had some of the best deals on Microsoft refurbished and warrantied units, leaving you plenty of budget to go grab a Microsoft pen and no need to budget for a separate keyboard as with the tablet models. Of course, the use case you described may warrant some consideration of the tablet model.
About the only model to really avoid for certain is the Surface Pro X, an ARM-based model which is not broken but isn't really the kind of device you'd hand to the average user (despite some of the recent discounting on that model). Additionally, the Surface Go series has some configurations in the all three generations which were underspecified even at launch and could be safely avoided (such as models with 4GB of RAM).
Good luck!
Jon
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