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A lot of them are "unisex", some are more heavily female, others more male. A few that I've tried and recommend (as a guy):
Maison Margiela - By The Fireplace (Smoky scent)
Terre D' Hermes (Very orangey scent, some people feel it's kind of old-man'ish, but it's honestly the one I've gotten more than a couple random compliments on at the store)
Kilian - Roses on Ice (Unisex, kind of like a vodka/rose/cucumber mix, very nice!)
Kilian - Apple Brandy on the Rocks (an apply brandy/rum type scent)
Memo - Leather (I liked the African leather one, wasn't huge on the Irish leather)
Maison Margiela Replica Jazz Club - Smoky/Boozy scent
Kilian - L'Heure Verte (boozy, absynthe/black licorice)
Kilian - Angels Share (very unisex, gourmand, boozy)
Tom Ford - Rose de Chine (not my favorite in the line, but unisex)
Kilian - Straight to Heaven - Nice spicy woodsy scent, very masculine
Tom Ford - Soleil Blanc (summery scent, cocounutty/beachy vibes, somewhat lighter scent)
Tom Ford - Rose Prick - Very spicy rose scent, probably more for a guy than a girl, but the pink bottle turns people away
Tom Ford - Black orchid - Not a safe blind buy at all. Smells like Plum and death, but it's a super unique and actually very enjoyable scent once you get used to it.
Tom Ford - White Suede - Not leathery, but more of a suede/velvet shoe/jacket type scent. Very clean, very nice, somewhat light scent.
Kilian - Black Phantom Memento Mori - Chocolatey/coffee type scent
Frederic Malle - Musc Ravageur - One of my favorites, Smells a bit like christmas? Spicy, Cinnamon, Cloves
Tom Ford - Bitter Peach - This one gets a lot of mixed reactions. I like it though and bought 2 bottles! Starts off with a nice peachy smell, but then goes bitter. Smells kind of different on everyone.. seems to work better on Men? Great for layering with other scents
Frederic Malle - Carnal Flower - Very "green" scent, but also very pleasant!
Maison Francis Kurkdjian - Oud silk mood - Very "Oud" (wood) scented, lasts forever, smells very nice, 1-2 sprays will last for days
Creed - Silver Mountain Water - Very crisp scent, hard to describe? For the price, I'd honestly suggest "Armaf - Sillage" for about 1/10 of the price and smells the same
Tom Ford - Oud Wood - A safe/professional oud scent that can be worn to the office.
Creed - Millessime Imperial - Similar to Silver Mountain Water, I'd recommend the Armaf - Milestone at about $25
Frederic Malle - Portrait of a Lady - Very heavy rose scent, unisex
Maison Francis Kurkdjian - Baccarat Rouge 540 - A super popular scent, mostly by women but guys seem to wear and really enjoy it a lot also. Only thing is that its such a high price and has been "cloned" so many times (even "Ariana Grande - Cloud" is one, which is $20-30)


Others for men:
Montblanc Legend
Bvlgari Man Wood Neroli
Paco Rabanne Invictus
Montblanc Explorer
Versace Pour Homme Oud Noir
Gucci Guilty Black
Burberry Hero


A lot of these can be tested in-store at Nordstrom, Neiman Marcus, Bloomingdales and some at Sephora/Ulta/Macys..

Costco does allow returns for any reason (even if opened)

If you can't make it to one of those stores.. check Fragrantica.com and read some of the note breakdowns, reviews, etc..

These are mostly niche/higher end type scents so they'll smell a bit different from what you might normally be used to? They're typically not going to be your usual fresh/summer scent, but rather bring something new to the table which makes it fun!

A lot of these are normally 2-3 times the price, so even at $100, $150, $200, these are some great deals
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They don't -- The Kilians they have right now:
Straight to Heaven - $129
L'Heure Verte - $99
Apple Brandy on the Rocks - $99
Bamboo Harmony - $139
Roses on Ice - $99
Flower of Immortality - $139
Good Girl Gone Bad - $184
Moonlight in Heaven - $199
Angels Share - $116.99
Voulez-Vous Coucher Avec Moi - $199


For Princess and Love Dont Be Shy, check to see if you have a "Cosmetics Company Store" near you (that's the name). It's the name of the Estee Lauder outlets, and they sell both of those fragrances at a heavy discount (-50% + -15%). They had the old "Princess" in the ball (100ml) and Love Don't Be Shy and Love Don't Be Shy Extreme at my local store.. final price is very, very low -- especially considering the new Princess is only a 50ml size.

They also carry Kilian/Tom Ford/Frederic Malle, but selections vary quite heavily (typically overstock, discontinued or special-packaged fragrances (like a 50ml + travel spray, or holiday packaging). Last week they had a 50% + 25% extra discount going on!
NSXMK3
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It's a weird name for brand/line, in an industry filled with copies/clones/dupes!

Just for anyone else wondering: All of the Costco fragrances are legit and originals.. the Maison Margiela "Replica" line is made to replicate a time and place in a scent..
"Beach Walk", "Bubble bath", "Jazz club", "By the fireplace", "When the rain stops", "Springtime in a park", etc..

A lot of them might not be something you want to smell like? But honestly -- I've found that through Work From Home, it's been a super nice thing to spray.. almost like a "mood setter" to help relax and enjoy something like a room spray or a candle, but a bit stronger?

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TaylorVaughnJun 21, 2023 01:09 AM
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Not a Costco member but I may join. Do they have Kilian Love Don't Be Shy or Princess?
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Quote from TaylorVaughn :
Not a Costco member but I may join. Do they have Kilian Love Don't Be Shy or Princess?
They don't -- The Kilians they have right now:
Straight to Heaven - $129
L'Heure Verte - $99
Apple Brandy on the Rocks - $99
Bamboo Harmony - $139
Roses on Ice - $99
Flower of Immortality - $139
Good Girl Gone Bad - $184
Moonlight in Heaven - $199
Angels Share - $116.99
Voulez-Vous Coucher Avec Moi - $199


For Princess and Love Dont Be Shy, check to see if you have a "Cosmetics Company Store" near you (that's the name). It's the name of the Estee Lauder outlets, and they sell both of those fragrances at a heavy discount (-50% + -15%). They had the old "Princess" in the ball (100ml) and Love Don't Be Shy and Love Don't Be Shy Extreme at my local store.. final price is very, very low -- especially considering the new Princess is only a 50ml size.

They also carry Kilian/Tom Ford/Frederic Malle, but selections vary quite heavily (typically overstock, discontinued or special-packaged fragrances (like a 50ml + travel spray, or holiday packaging). Last week they had a 50% + 25% extra discount going on!
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TaylorVaughnJun 21, 2023 12:28 PM
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Quote from NSXMK3 :
They don't -- The Kilians they have right now:
Straight to Heaven - $129
L'Heure Verte - $99
Apple Brandy on the Rocks - $99
Bamboo Harmony - $139
Roses on Ice - $99
Flower of Immortality - $139
Good Girl Gone Bad - $184
Moonlight in Heaven - $199
Angels Share - $116.99
Voulez-Vous Coucher Avec Moi - $199


For Princess and Love Dont Be Shy, check to see if you have a "Cosmetics Company Store" near you (that's the name). It's the name of the Estee Lauder outlets, and they sell both of those fragrances at a heavy discount (-50% + -15%). They had the old "Princess" in the ball (100ml) and Love Don't Be Shy and Love Don't Be Shy Extreme at my local store.. final price is very, very low -- especially considering the new Princess is only a 50ml size.

They also carry Kilian/Tom Ford/Frederic Malle, but selections vary quite heavily (typically overstock, discontinued or special-packaged fragrances (like a 50ml + travel spray, or holiday packaging). Last week they had a 50% + 25% extra discount going on!
Awesome! Thank you. I'll check them out
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SlickGame4485Jun 21, 2023 03:27 PM
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Buyer beware: I saw some of these scents in club at a clearance price of $79.97 down from $99.99.
Jun 21, 2023 04:59 PM
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DrGordonFreemanJun 21, 2023 04:59 PM
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Are any of these for men or are these for women? The Tom Ford beachy coconut scene sounds interesting.
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SmilingDolphin128Jun 21, 2023 05:15 PM
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Quote from SlickGame4485 :
Buyer beware: I saw some of these scents in club at a clearance price of $79.97 down from $99.99.
In club?
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Quote from DrGordonFreeman :
Are any of these for men or are these for women? The Tom Ford beachy coconut scene sounds interesting.
A lot of them are "unisex", some are more heavily female, others more male. A few that I've tried and recommend (as a guy):
Maison Margiela - By The Fireplace (Smoky scent)
Terre D' Hermes (Very orangey scent, some people feel it's kind of old-man'ish, but it's honestly the one I've gotten more than a couple random compliments on at the store)
Kilian - Roses on Ice (Unisex, kind of like a vodka/rose/cucumber mix, very nice!)
Kilian - Apple Brandy on the Rocks (an apply brandy/rum type scent)
Memo - Leather (I liked the African leather one, wasn't huge on the Irish leather)
Maison Margiela Replica Jazz Club - Smoky/Boozy scent
Kilian - L'Heure Verte (boozy, absynthe/black licorice)
Kilian - Angels Share (very unisex, gourmand, boozy)
Tom Ford - Rose de Chine (not my favorite in the line, but unisex)
Kilian - Straight to Heaven - Nice spicy woodsy scent, very masculine
Tom Ford - Soleil Blanc (summery scent, cocounutty/beachy vibes, somewhat lighter scent)
Tom Ford - Rose Prick - Very spicy rose scent, probably more for a guy than a girl, but the pink bottle turns people away
Tom Ford - Black orchid - Not a safe blind buy at all. Smells like Plum and death, but it's a super unique and actually very enjoyable scent once you get used to it.
Tom Ford - White Suede - Not leathery, but more of a suede/velvet shoe/jacket type scent. Very clean, very nice, somewhat light scent.
Kilian - Black Phantom Memento Mori - Chocolatey/coffee type scent
Frederic Malle - Musc Ravageur - One of my favorites, Smells a bit like christmas? Spicy, Cinnamon, Cloves
Tom Ford - Bitter Peach - This one gets a lot of mixed reactions. I like it though and bought 2 bottles! Starts off with a nice peachy smell, but then goes bitter. Smells kind of different on everyone.. seems to work better on Men? Great for layering with other scents
Frederic Malle - Carnal Flower - Very "green" scent, but also very pleasant!
Maison Francis Kurkdjian - Oud silk mood - Very "Oud" (wood) scented, lasts forever, smells very nice, 1-2 sprays will last for days
Creed - Silver Mountain Water - Very crisp scent, hard to describe? For the price, I'd honestly suggest "Armaf - Sillage" for about 1/10 of the price and smells the same
Tom Ford - Oud Wood - A safe/professional oud scent that can be worn to the office.
Creed - Millessime Imperial - Similar to Silver Mountain Water, I'd recommend the Armaf - Milestone at about $25
Frederic Malle - Portrait of a Lady - Very heavy rose scent, unisex
Maison Francis Kurkdjian - Baccarat Rouge 540 - A super popular scent, mostly by women but guys seem to wear and really enjoy it a lot also. Only thing is that its such a high price and has been "cloned" so many times (even "Ariana Grande - Cloud" is one, which is $20-30)


Others for men:
Montblanc Legend
Bvlgari Man Wood Neroli
Paco Rabanne Invictus
Montblanc Explorer
Versace Pour Homme Oud Noir
Gucci Guilty Black
Burberry Hero


A lot of these can be tested in-store at Nordstrom, Neiman Marcus, Bloomingdales and some at Sephora/Ulta/Macys..

Costco does allow returns for any reason (even if opened)

If you can't make it to one of those stores.. check Fragrantica.com and read some of the note breakdowns, reviews, etc..

These are mostly niche/higher end type scents so they'll smell a bit different from what you might normally be used to? They're typically not going to be your usual fresh/summer scent, but rather bring something new to the table which makes it fun!

A lot of these are normally 2-3 times the price, so even at $100, $150, $200, these are some great deals
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Quote from NSXMK3 :
A lot of them are "unisex", some are more heavily female, others more male. A few that I've tried and recommend (as a guy):
Maison Margiela - By The Fireplace (Smoky scent)
Terre D' Hermes (Very orangey scent, some people feel it's kind of old-man'ish, but it's honestly the one I've gotten more than a couple random compliments on at the store)
Kilian - Roses on Ice (Unisex, kind of like a vodka/rose/cucumber mix, very nice!)
Kilian - Apple Brandy on the Rocks (an apply brandy/rum type scent)
Memo - Leather (I liked the African leather one, wasn't huge on the Irish leather)
Maison Margiela Replica Jazz Club - Smoky/Boozy scent
Kilian - L'Heure Verte (boozy, absynthe/black licorice)
Kilian - Angels Share (very unisex, gourmand, boozy)
Tom Ford - Rose de Chine (not my favorite in the line, but unisex)
Kilian - Straight to Heaven - Nice spicy woodsy scent, very masculine
Tom Ford - Soleil Blanc (summery scent, cocounutty/beachy vibes, somewhat lighter scent)
Tom Ford - Rose Prick - Very spicy rose scent, probably more for a guy than a girl, but the pink bottle turns people away
Tom Ford - Black orchid - Not a safe blind buy at all. Smells like Plum and death, but it's a super unique and actually very enjoyable scent once you get used to it.
Tom Ford - White Suede - Not leathery, but more of a suede/velvet shoe/jacket type scent. Very clean, very nice, somewhat light scent.
Kilian - Black Phantom Memento Mori - Chocolatey/coffee type scent
Frederic Malle - Musc Ravageur - One of my favorites, Smells a bit like christmas? Spicy, Cinnamon, Cloves
Tom Ford - Bitter Peach - This one gets a lot of mixed reactions. I like it though and bought 2 bottles! Starts off with a nice peachy smell, but then goes bitter. Smells kind of different on everyone.. seems to work better on Men? Great for layering with other scents
Frederic Malle - Carnal Flower - Very "green" scent, but also very pleasant!
Maison Francis Kurkdjian - Oud silk mood - Very "Oud" (wood) scented, lasts forever, smells very nice, 1-2 sprays will last for days
Creed - Silver Mountain Water - Very crisp scent, hard to describe? For the price, I'd honestly suggest "Armaf - Sillage" for about 1/10 of the price and smells the same
Tom Ford - Oud Wood - A safe/professional oud scent that can be worn to the office.
Creed - Millessime Imperial - Similar to Silver Mountain Water, I'd recommend the Armaf - Milestone at about $25
Frederic Malle - Portrait of a Lady - Very heavy rose scent, unisex
Maison Francis Kurkdjian - Baccarat Rouge 540 - A super popular scent, mostly by women but guys seem to wear and really enjoy it a lot also. Only thing is that its such a high price and has been "cloned" so many times (even "Ariana Grande - Cloud" is one, which is $20-30)


Others for men:
Montblanc Legend
Bvlgari Man Wood Neroli
Paco Rabanne Invictus
Montblanc Explorer
Versace Pour Homme Oud Noir
Gucci Guilty Black
Burberry Hero


A lot of these can be tested in-store at Nordstrom, Neiman Marcus, Bloomingdales and some at Sephora/Ulta/Macys..

Costco does allow returns for any reason (even if opened)

If you can't make it to one of those stores.. check Fragrantica.com and read some of the note breakdowns, reviews, etc..

These are mostly niche/higher end type scents so they'll smell a bit different from what you might normally be used to? They're typically not going to be your usual fresh/summer scent, but rather bring something new to the table which makes it fun!

A lot of these are normally 2-3 times the price, so even at $100, $150, $200, these are some great deals
Great breakdown repped
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BuddyLove99Jun 21, 2023 05:41 PM
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I completely misunderstood the "replica" as a nearly perfect knockoff. Oops 😬
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Quote from BuddyLove99 :
I completely misunderstood the "replica" as a nearly perfect knockoff. Oops 😬
It's a weird name for brand/line, in an industry filled with copies/clones/dupes!

Just for anyone else wondering: All of the Costco fragrances are legit and originals.. the Maison Margiela "Replica" line is made to replicate a time and place in a scent..
"Beach Walk", "Bubble bath", "Jazz club", "By the fireplace", "When the rain stops", "Springtime in a park", etc..

A lot of them might not be something you want to smell like? But honestly -- I've found that through Work From Home, it's been a super nice thing to spray.. almost like a "mood setter" to help relax and enjoy something like a room spray or a candle, but a bit stronger?
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Quote from SlickGame4485 :
Buyer beware: I saw some of these scents in club at a clearance price of $79.97 down from $99.99.
I've never even seen scents in club. Hmm.
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Quote from NSXMK3 :
A lot of them are "unisex", some are more heavily female, others more male. A few that I've tried and recommend (as a guy):
Maison Margiela - By The Fireplace (Smoky scent)
Terre D' Hermes (Very orangey scent, some people feel it's kind of old-man'ish, but it's honestly the one I've gotten more than a couple random compliments on at the store)
Kilian - Roses on Ice (Unisex, kind of like a vodka/rose/cucumber mix, very nice!)
Kilian - Apple Brandy on the Rocks (an apply brandy/rum type scent)
Memo - Leather (I liked the African leather one, wasn't huge on the Irish leather)
Maison Margiela Replica Jazz Club - Smoky/Boozy scent
Kilian - L'Heure Verte (boozy, absynthe/black licorice)
Kilian - Angels Share (very unisex, gourmand, boozy)
Tom Ford - Rose de Chine (not my favorite in the line, but unisex)
Kilian - Straight to Heaven - Nice spicy woodsy scent, very masculine
Tom Ford - Soleil Blanc (summery scent, cocounutty/beachy vibes, somewhat lighter scent)
Tom Ford - Rose Prick - Very spicy rose scent, probably more for a guy than a girl, but the pink bottle turns people away
Tom Ford - Black orchid - Not a safe blind buy at all. Smells like Plum and death, but it's a super unique and actually very enjoyable scent once you get used to it.
Tom Ford - White Suede - Not leathery, but more of a suede/velvet shoe/jacket type scent. Very clean, very nice, somewhat light scent.
Kilian - Black Phantom Memento Mori - Chocolatey/coffee type scent
Frederic Malle - Musc Ravageur - One of my favorites, Smells a bit like christmas? Spicy, Cinnamon, Cloves
Tom Ford - Bitter Peach - This one gets a lot of mixed reactions. I like it though and bought 2 bottles! Starts off with a nice peachy smell, but then goes bitter. Smells kind of different on everyone.. seems to work better on Men? Great for layering with other scents
Frederic Malle - Carnal Flower - Very "green" scent, but also very pleasant!
Maison Francis Kurkdjian - Oud silk mood - Very "Oud" (wood) scented, lasts forever, smells very nice, 1-2 sprays will last for days
Creed - Silver Mountain Water - Very crisp scent, hard to describe? For the price, I'd honestly suggest "Armaf - Sillage" for about 1/10 of the price and smells the same
Tom Ford - Oud Wood - A safe/professional oud scent that can be worn to the office.
Creed - Millessime Imperial - Similar to Silver Mountain Water, I'd recommend the Armaf - Milestone at about $25
Frederic Malle - Portrait of a Lady - Very heavy rose scent, unisex
Maison Francis Kurkdjian - Baccarat Rouge 540 - A super popular scent, mostly by women but guys seem to wear and really enjoy it a lot also. Only thing is that its such a high price and has been "cloned" so many times (even "Ariana Grande - Cloud" is one, which is $20-30)


Others for men:
Montblanc Legend
Bvlgari Man Wood Neroli
Paco Rabanne Invictus
Montblanc Explorer
Versace Pour Homme Oud Noir
Gucci Guilty Black
Burberry Hero


A lot of these can be tested in-store at Nordstrom, Neiman Marcus, Bloomingdales and some at Sephora/Ulta/Macys..

Costco does allow returns for any reason (even if opened)

If you can't make it to one of those stores.. check Fragrantica.com and read some of the note breakdowns, reviews, etc..

These are mostly niche/higher end type scents so they'll smell a bit different from what you might normally be used to? They're typically not going to be your usual fresh/summer scent, but rather bring something new to the table which makes it fun!

A lot of these are normally 2-3 times the price, so even at $100, $150, $200, these are some great deals
Thanks.
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Quote from nopes :
I've never even seen scents in club. Hmm.
The closest (and arguably most popular) club in my area doesn't have any fragrances, but if I travel to the ones a little further out they have a whole bunch of them between the meds/supplements and the optical counter. Might depend on available space or local demo?
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Quote from electronath :
The closest (and arguably most popular) club in my area doesn't have any fragrances, but if I travel to the ones a little further out they have a whole bunch of them between the meds/supplements and the optical counter. Might depend on available space or local demo?
Does your store have any of the ones on the link above?
Whenever my local one does, they tend to be a large pallet/gaylord of just random lower-end stuff (like CK and Burberry)

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ProbablyChineseJun 21, 2023 10:01 PM
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Angels Share is one of the best smelling fragrances! I am not having luck finding the Zara version (Sand Desert at Sunset, same perfumer!) at retail so I may have to pony up for the original.

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