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Alienware m17 R5 Laptop: 17.3" FHD 360Hz, Ryzen 9 6900HX, RX 6850M XT, 32GB RAM

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  • 17.3" FHD 1920x1080, 360Hz 1ms, AMD FreeSync, ComfortView Plus Display
  • AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX (20 MB total cache, 8 cores, 16 threads, up to 4.90 GHz Max Boost Clock)
  • 32GB (2x 16 GB) DDR5 4800 MHz RAM
  • 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
  • AMD Radeon RX 6850M XT 12GB GDDR6 Graphics
  • 6 Cell, 97 Wh Integrated Battery
  • MediaTek Wi-Fi 6 MT7921, 2x2, 802.11ax, MU-MIMO Bluetooth wireless card
  • Windows 11 Home, English
  • Ports:
    • 2x Type-A USB 3.2 Gen 1 Port
    • 1x Type-A USB 3.2 Gen 1 Port with PowerShare
    • 1x Type-C Port Headphone and microphone combo) port
    • 1 HDMI 2.1 Output Port
    • 1 RJ45 Ethernet port
    • 1 Power-adapter port

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  • Reviews: This Laptop receives 4.2 Stars out of 5 Stars based on over 600 Customer Reviews.
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Update: This deal is still available.

Dell Technologies has Dell Alienware m17 R5 Gaming Laptop on sale for $1079.99 after applying Unique Coupon Code from Email Signup. Shipping is free.

Thanks community member ToxPotato for sharing this deal

Specs:
  • 17.3" FHD 1920x1080, 360Hz 1ms, AMD FreeSync, ComfortView Plus Display
  • AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX (20 MB total cache, 8 cores, 16 threads, up to 4.90 GHz Max Boost Clock)
  • 32GB (2x 16 GB) DDR5 4800 MHz RAM
  • 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
  • AMD Radeon RX 6850M XT 12GB GDDR6 Graphics
  • 6 Cell, 97 Wh Integrated Battery
  • MediaTek Wi-Fi 6 MT7921, 2x2, 802.11ax, MU-MIMO Bluetooth wireless card
  • Windows 11 Home, English
  • Ports:
    • 2x Type-A USB 3.2 Gen 1 Port
    • 1x Type-A USB 3.2 Gen 1 Port with PowerShare
    • 1x Type-C Port Headphone and microphone combo) port
    • 1 HDMI 2.1 Output Port
    • 1 RJ45 Ethernet port
    • 1 Power-adapter port

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake
  • Reviews: This Laptop receives 4.2 Stars out of 5 Stars based on over 600 Customer Reviews.
  • Refer to Dell Return Policy
  • Want to stack more cashback? Click here to compare the available cashback credit cards.

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TealDesk6174
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Alienware vs Acer are two opposite ends of the spectrum. Alienware is a premium brand, and Acer is low quality. By that, I don't just mean quality of components and build quality. The biggest differences are in cooling and thermal management.

Alienware has a very good cooling design, to control thermals, especially the 17 inch model, which has great heat dissipation.

This allows:
1. much less thermal throttling
2. higher wattage power fed into the graphics card
3. greater frame rates, and better performance

If you want a better idea of actual gaming performance, look at the wattage of the power supply, how much power the laptop supplies to the discrete graphics, and then look at actual frame rate and benchmark numbers from online reviews and YouTube videos.

This is the reason why you won't ever see 14" laptops with 4090 graphics accelerators. They can't handle the heat, can't supply enough power to the graphics, and even if they do try to squeeze it in, these laptops suffer from horrible thermal throttling.

The other comment is correct. These laptops are designed for different purposes. A 17" laptop is far less portable. Ever try taking a 17" laptop with a bag and power supply on an airplane? Setting it up on the seat? You will see how impractical it is, and where a 14" or 15" laptop make more sense. However, if you have it sitting 95% of the time on AC power as a desktop replacement, then the 17" with super high refresh is ideal for gaming, especially FPS. 17" is much more comfortable for long term use than 14 or 15".

So decide what kind of laptop you have a need for, and then find the best deal for a laptop in that segment. Don't go chasing after the best "deal" and end up with a laptop that is impractical for your daily use!
Husbeard
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This is a great deal, but that 1080p 300nits display is lackluster..
psychism
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Just skimming the 2... what pops out is that Acer is a 15" with a higher resolution screen Alienware is 17" with a lower resolution screen. Acer has a 10 key which has pros and cons, if you need 10 key it can be nice if you don't then it throws the keyboard way off center relative to the screen which can be annoying. Hardware wise they are pretty similar the performance on either looks like it is going to be within 5-10% on everything and most things are pretty much even.
Personally I don't like Acer but honestly every companies quality control seems to be total garbage now so I can't really hold it against just them anymore.

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I signed up for a new email and got the 10% Coupon for that price
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coolcoderJul 01, 2023 05:35 AM
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Good specs, but almost 10lbs with the power adapter is just too heavy. Good as a portable desktop though.
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The price looks good to me, but I am not used to the AMD CPU and GPU combo, so I order it along with the Acer Predator Helios 300:
https://slickdeals.net/f/16635140-acer-predator-helios-300-laptop-15-6-2560x1440-240hz-intel-core-i7-16gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-1400-free-shipping

Can anyone briefly give the pros and cons of these two products if possible, so I can decide? Much appreciated.
Just skimming the 2... what pops out is that Acer is a 15" with a higher resolution screen Alienware is 17" with a lower resolution screen. Acer has a 10 key which has pros and cons, if you need 10 key it can be nice if you don't then it throws the keyboard way off center relative to the screen which can be annoying. Hardware wise they are pretty similar the performance on either looks like it is going to be within 5-10% on everything and most things are pretty much even.
Personally I don't like Acer but honestly every companies quality control seems to be total garbage now so I can't really hold it against just them anymore.
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Quote from psychism :
Just skimming the 2... what pops out is that Acer is a 15" with a higher resolution screen Alienware is 17" with a lower resolution screen. Acer has a 10 key which has pros and cons, if you need 10 key it can be nice if you don't then it throws the keyboard way off center relative to the screen which can be annoying. Hardware wise they are pretty similar the performance on either looks like it is going to be within 5-10% on everything and most things are pretty much even.
Personally I don't like Acer but honestly every companies quality control seems to be total garbage now so I can't really hold it against just them anymore.
1080p @ 360hz is the same processing power (strictly numbers not real world 1:1) as 4k @ 90hz... Keep that in mind when you look at resolution but don't take into consideration framerates... for a gaming laptop.
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This is a great deal, but that 1080p 300nits display is lackluster..
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Quote from psychism :
Just skimming the 2... what pops out is that Acer is a 15" with a higher resolution screen Alienware is 17" with a lower resolution screen. Acer has a 10 key which has pros and cons, if you need 10 key it can be nice if you don't then it throws the keyboard way off center relative to the screen which can be annoying. Hardware wise they are pretty similar the performance on either looks like it is going to be within 5-10% on everything and most things are pretty much even.
Personally I don't like Acer but honestly every companies quality control seems to be total garbage now so I can't really hold it against just them anymore.
I read some reviews saying that the standalone Intel i7 12700H is better than Ryzen 9 6900HX and 3070Ti > RX 6850M XT in p/p, but together the AMD SmartShift compensated for such inferiority. Is that true?
Also, I like the Alienware build more than Acer's, so I really have a hard time choosing here. Maybe have to wait til got both in hand.
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Quote from AkujunkanX :
1080p @ 360hz is the same processing power (strictly numbers not real world 1:1) as 4k @ 90hz... Keep that in mind when you look at resolution but don't take into consideration framerates... for a gaming laptop.
I understand what you are saying but it honestly isn't relevant. No one is looking at a 1080 screen and a 1440 screen and going "oh but it uses the same processing power". That isn't what your eye sees.

Quote from Husbeard :
This is a great deal, but that 1080p low nits display is lackluster..
https://slickdeals.net/f/16752794-lenovo-legion-slim-7-16-qhd-165hz-ryzen-9-6900hx-rx-6800s-16gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-1199-99-at-best-buy?v=1&p=164376929&comment=success#post164376929
That's my current darling laptop of the deals right now.

Quote from ToxPotato :
I read some reviews saying that the standalone Intel i7 12700H is better than Ryzen 9 6900HX and 3070Ti > RX 6850M XT in p/p, but together the AMD SmartShift compensated for such inferiority. Is that true?
Also, I like the Alienware build more than Acer's, so I really have a hard time choosing here. Maybe have to wait til got both in hand.
Honestly you're worried about the wrong thing between the two. Personally you shouldn't even be comparing these 2 laptops they are different sizes so that alone should decide it in most cases depending on what your needs are. The things you are worrying about are things you worry about when 2 laptops are pretty much identical not when there is certain things about them that put them in different classes. The main thing I would look at between these two is which form factor is going to work better for you, which keyboard style you prefer, and which screen type you prefer. Pretty much all performance numbers between these 2 aren't going to be relevant as they are going to be something that changes based on task, program, game, etc and not even noticeable in day to day usage unless your day to day usage is checking benchmark scores.
Edit: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Rad...598.0.html That's comparison for the two GPUs. The only really notable thing would be that currently AMD cards are more raw power which you will notice outside of gaming performance if you are using it for other purposes as well. nVidia is currently using DLSS which there is nothing inherently wrong with but it uses software instead of hardware to achieve the performance.

I'll see what I can find on the cpus for your question.
Edit2: The processor power difference on benchmarks is usually not much but maxes out at 10.5% on anything I've found and SmartShift boosts performance by up to 14% so in theory yes it would eliminate the difference in performance.
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Quote from psychism :
I understand what you are saying but it honestly isn't relevant. No one is looking at a 1080 screen and a 1440 screen and going "oh but it uses the same processing power". That isn't what your eye sees.
Wow, you really don't know what a segment of the market (the one this laptop is going after) wants. Not all gamers are the same, but the gamers that want a 360hz experience (mainly for FPS games) understand it likely just 1080p. Whatever is in your mindset of specs for YOUR needs doesn't apply here and omitting context as to why its lower res is just dishonesty.
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Quote from psychism :
I understand what you are saying but it honestly isn't relevant. No one is looking at a 1080 screen and a 1440 screen and going "oh but it uses the same processing power". That isn't what your eye sees.



https://slickdeals.net/f/16752794-lenovo-legion-slim-7-16-qhd-165hz-ryzen-9-6900hx-rx-6800s-16gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-1199-99-at-best-buy?v=1&p=164376929&comment=success#post164376929
That's my current darling laptop of the deals right now.



Honestly you're worried about the wrong thing between the two. Personally you shouldn't even be comparing these 2 laptops they are different sizes so that alone should decide it in most cases depending on what your needs are. The things you are worrying about are things you worry about when 2 laptops are pretty much identical not when there is certain things about them that put them in different classes. The main thing I would look at between these two is which form factor is going to work better for you, which keyboard style you prefer, and which screen type you prefer. Pretty much all performance numbers between these 2 aren't going to be relevant as they are going to be something that changes based on task, program, game, etc and not even noticeable in day to day usage unless your day to day usage is checking benchmark scores.
Completely. I ended up buying a Lenovo 7750HX 4070 with the 500nits 1600p(16 inch) screen. But I also bought the i7 12700h 3070ti Alienware since it was $400 cheaper. I'll be comparing the two and sending back one of them.
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Quote from AkujunkanX :
Wow, you really don't know what a segment of the market (the one this laptop is going after) wants. Not all gamers are the same, but the gamers that want a 360hz experience (mainly for FPS games) understand it likely just 1080p. Whatever is in your mindset of specs for YOUR needs doesn't apply here and omitting context as to why its lower res is just dishonesty.
I assure you I'm not basing it on my needs I wouldn't buy either of these personally. My statement also made no reference to which was "better", I've said multiple times now to choose based on which screen is preferred that isn't a value statement. I'm basing my statement on what most people view as noticeable on a screen. A 17" screen at 1080 vs a 15" at 1440 is going to be a noticeable difference which is why I stated that one is a larger screen with a lower resolution and the other a smaller screen with a higher resolution. If someone says they are buying this solely for twitch reflex games that may change the statement. When they are asking for a comparison of two completely different laptops I can only assume they plan to use it for a broad range of tasks and games.
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How good is rx 6850m xt?
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How good is rx 6850m xt?
Somewhere between a 3070ti and 3080
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Quote from ToxPotato :
The price looks good to me, but I am not used to the AMD CPU and GPU combo, so I order it along with the Acer Predator Helios 300:
https://slickdeals.net/f/16635140-acer-predator-helios-300-laptop-15-6-2560x1440-240hz-intel-core-i7-16gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-1400-free-shipping

Can anyone briefly give the pros and cons of these two products if possible, so I can decide? Much appreciated.
I already lost my interest when I heard the name Acer.
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