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I am trying to find the reason why you would spend $75 to buy this "2 Piece Extra Long Needle Nose Pliers", instead of other much cheaper ones.
A week ago, I did drum brakes on a 20 year old car. Drum brakes is a dirty job so I used my channellock needlenose and sunex long nose to deal with the springs. After two busted knuckes, two accidental stabbings, and an instant pinch blood blister, I used the Knipex long needle nose. I couldn't believe how much more force the jaws apply. With the Knipex I could install the spring in one shot. The don't slip in the Knipex jaws. This is is why you spend the money on Knipex.
I am trying to find the reason why you would spend $75 to buy this "2 Piece Extra Long Needle Nose Pliers", instead of other much cheaper ones.
I understand well. At HF, just bought 8" Doyle needle nose for just over $12. inc. tax (and 20% coupon) w/ lifetime guarantee (and read the reviews, and check YouTube Doyle comparisons to Klein/Knipex/Channellock). Can't beat the cost/benefit ratio IMO.
Not sure what I need this for (I have the cheap tools already ). I paid dearly for two 3-packs of "plier wrench" sets to just get one job done replacing a water pump (which paid for itself vs. calling a professional to come in), and have been using ever since, which has been a _very_ pleasing experience.
This time, not having a job to get done that will pay for the tool, hard to find a reason other than "I want to". Any job recommendations around the house for these two tools? I don't do cars.
I understand well. At HF, just bought 8" Doyle needle nose for just over $12. inc. tax (and 20% coupon) w/ lifetime guarantee (and read the reviews, and check YouTube Doyle comparisons to Klein/Knipex/Channellock). Can't beat the cost/benefit ratio IMO.
I must respectfully disagree. I see SD commenters continuously venerating HF's tool quality which parallels or exceeds high-end tools. This must cease immediately as it is immoral & patently false. Jk.
To save manufacturing costs, the lower price tools cut corners such as using softer, less spendy materials that yield rather than transfer force. More importantly, with Doyle tools, the "teeth" are just crosshatch scribe lines cut into the jaws. This is a cost-cutting approach and is astronomically cheaper to manufacture. These will provide a modicum of grip initially, but the grip will fade after a few uses. This is very different from high end tools that have raised, matching, interlocking, & hardened teeth as with these pliers. Please allow me to reiterate: Actual teeth. The performance is unparalleled.
Like all statistics, cost benefit analysis is tricky. One should consider time saved to accomplish a job. For me, these pliers have paid for themselves. Further, the comparison is predicated on the assumption that the two tools can accomplish the same tasks. Highly doubtful. I saw a pair of needlenose at car parts store for $1.00. No joke. This would probably come out ahead due to their price point alone but will probably fail on their first use. What good is CBA if they can't do the job? Perhaps the solution is to buy two.
Clearly, the Knipex is not for everyone as everyone has different needs. If you (generally speaking) need something to bend paperclips, then HF tools are perfect. I certainly wouldn't buy these pliers for paperclip art. If you need to wriggle a shaft pin without dropping it, remove a retaining clip in a gearbox, or drum brakes then purchase these.
There are reasons for the price and those reasons are quality & performance.
I must respectfully disagree. I see SD commenters continuously venerating HF's tool quality which parallels or exceeds high-end tools. This must cease immediately as it is immoral & patently false. Jk.
To save manufacturing costs, the lower price tools cut corners such as using softer, less spendy materials that yield rather than transfer force. More importantly, with Doyle tools, the "teeth" are just crosshatch scribe lines cut into the jaws. This is a cost-cutting approach and is astronomically cheaper to manufacture. These will provide a modicum of grip initially, but the grip will fade after a few uses. This is very different from high end tools that have raised, matching, interlocking, & hardened teeth as with these pliers. Please allow me to reiterate: Actual teeth. The performance is unparalleled.
Like all statistics, cost benefit analysis is tricky. One should consider time saved to accomplish a job. For me, these pliers have paid for themselves. Further, the comparison is predicated on the assumption that the two tools can accomplish the same tasks. Highly doubtful. I saw a pair of needlenose at car parts store for $1.00. No joke. This would probably come out ahead due to their price point alone but will probably fail on their first use. What good is CBA if they can't do the job? Perhaps the solution is to buy two.
Clearly, the Knipex is not for everyone as everyone has different needs. If you (generally speaking) need something to bend paperclips, then HF tools are perfect. I certainly wouldn't buy these pliers for paperclip art. If you need to wriggle a shaft pin without dropping it, remove a retaining clip in a gearbox, or drum brakes then purchase these.
There are reasons for the price and those reasons are quality & performance.
I am trying to find the reason why you would spend $75 to buy this "2 Piece Extra Long Needle Nose Pliers", instead of other much cheaper ones.
In case that some of the other lengthy supporting posts haven't given you reason enough to jump on this "deal", consider that this set (of 2) includes a handsome "keeper pouch", clearly emblazoned with the Knipex logo. The importance of that addition cannot be emphasized enough!
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I must respectfully disagree. I see SD commenters continuously venerating HF's tool quality which parallels or exceeds high-end tools. This must cease immediately as it is immoral & patently false. Jk.
To save manufacturing costs, the lower price tools cut corners such as using softer, less spendy materials that yield rather than transfer force. More importantly, with Doyle tools, the "teeth" are just crosshatch scribe lines cut into the jaws. This is a cost-cutting approach and is astronomically cheaper to manufacture. These will provide a modicum of grip initially, but the grip will fade after a few uses. This is very different from high end tools that have raised, matching, interlocking, & hardened teeth as with these pliers. Please allow me to reiterate: Actual teeth. The performance is unparalleled.
Like all statistics, cost benefit analysis is tricky. One should consider time saved to accomplish a job. For me, these pliers have paid for themselves. Further, the comparison is predicated on the assumption that the two tools can accomplish the same tasks. Highly doubtful. I saw a pair of needlenose at car parts store for $1.00. No joke. This would probably come out ahead due to their price point alone but will probably fail on their first use. What good is CBA if they can't do the job? Perhaps the solution is to buy two.
Clearly, the Knipex is not for everyone as everyone has different needs. If you (generally speaking) need something to bend paperclips, then HF tools are perfect. I certainly wouldn't buy these pliers for paperclip art. If you need to wriggle a shaft pin without dropping it, remove a retaining clip in a gearbox, or drum brakes then purchase these.
There are reasons for the price and those reasons are quality & performance.
A week ago, I did drum brakes on a 20 year old car. Drum brakes is a dirty job so I used my channellock needlenose and sunex long nose to deal with the springs. After two busted knuckes, two accidental stabbings, and an instant pinch blood blister, I used the Knipex long needle nose. I couldn't believe how much more force the jaws apply. With the Knipex I could install the spring in one shot. The don't slip in the Knipex jaws. This is is why you spend the money on Knipex.
Just curious… Understand one uses the tools that are there to get the job done sometimes, but do you think the needle nose pliers worked any better than a set of brake spring pliers from Harbor Freight (about $14.00)?
Just curious… Understand one uses the tools that are there to get the job done sometimes, but do you think the needle nose pliers worked any better than a set of brake spring pliers from Harbor Freight (about $14.00)?
I'm curious as to why it took five minor injuries to grab the better and more expensive tool. I don't think I'd spend the money here on Knipex but if I already have them I'm definitely using them.
Mine just arrived today, craftsmanship and quality are really good. Super smooth and naturally comfortable in the hand. These will replace a pair of HF green handle long nose pliers. They have served me well, but don't have the grip strength or ergonomic feel of these Knipex ones.
Maybe these are overkill for jewelry fabrication and adjustments. For this price I have higher expectations, no rust, no handle split and better gripping ability.
Time will tell, hopefully more expensive and higher quality tools last longer (generational?) and serve me well.
I always admire those people who have less and do more. To me they are the real engineers and not collectors.
Engineers design. Mechanics, fabricators, technicians, welders are what you're looking for. I prefer people with training, education, and knipex tools. Gets the job done right the first time.
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I would like to add these to my collection but don't use them enough.
However, there may be a time I may benefit greatly by having a super long pair of long nose pliers. I just wish the less expensive ones had the multiple gripping zones as well as the grabber jaws.
People who never experienced laborious work using tools (manual or power) may not have the appreciation for fine tools. It's a nice feeling when things work quickly the first time because the tools you are using do exactly what you want them to do because they are designed and built right. Those who have experienced frustrations know the value in paying more for proven quality.
It's a great feeling when you find fine tools at slick deal prices.
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This time, not having a job to get done that will pay for the tool, hard to find a reason other than "I want to". Any job recommendations around the house for these two tools? I don't do cars.
To save manufacturing costs, the lower price tools cut corners such as using softer, less spendy materials that yield rather than transfer force. More importantly, with Doyle tools, the "teeth" are just crosshatch scribe lines cut into the jaws. This is a cost-cutting approach and is astronomically cheaper to manufacture. These will provide a modicum of grip initially, but the grip will fade after a few uses. This is very different from high end tools that have raised, matching, interlocking, & hardened teeth as with these pliers. Please allow me to reiterate: Actual teeth. The performance is unparalleled.
Like all statistics, cost benefit analysis is tricky. One should consider time saved to accomplish a job. For me, these pliers have paid for themselves. Further, the comparison is predicated on the assumption that the two tools can accomplish the same tasks. Highly doubtful. I saw a pair of needlenose at car parts store for $1.00. No joke. This would probably come out ahead due to their price point alone but will probably fail on their first use. What good is CBA if they can't do the job? Perhaps the solution is to buy two.
Clearly, the Knipex is not for everyone as everyone has different needs. If you (generally speaking) need something to bend paperclips, then HF tools are perfect. I certainly wouldn't buy these pliers for paperclip art. If you need to wriggle a shaft pin without dropping it, remove a retaining clip in a gearbox, or drum brakes then purchase these.
There are reasons for the price and those reasons are quality & performance.
To save manufacturing costs, the lower price tools cut corners such as using softer, less spendy materials that yield rather than transfer force. More importantly, with Doyle tools, the "teeth" are just crosshatch scribe lines cut into the jaws. This is a cost-cutting approach and is astronomically cheaper to manufacture. These will provide a modicum of grip initially, but the grip will fade after a few uses. This is very different from high end tools that have raised, matching, interlocking, & hardened teeth as with these pliers. Please allow me to reiterate: Actual teeth. The performance is unparalleled.
Like all statistics, cost benefit analysis is tricky. One should consider time saved to accomplish a job. For me, these pliers have paid for themselves. Further, the comparison is predicated on the assumption that the two tools can accomplish the same tasks. Highly doubtful. I saw a pair of needlenose at car parts store for $1.00. No joke. This would probably come out ahead due to their price point alone but will probably fail on their first use. What good is CBA if they can't do the job? Perhaps the solution is to buy two.
Clearly, the Knipex is not for everyone as everyone has different needs. If you (generally speaking) need something to bend paperclips, then HF tools are perfect. I certainly wouldn't buy these pliers for paperclip art. If you need to wriggle a shaft pin without dropping it, remove a retaining clip in a gearbox, or drum brakes then purchase these.
There are reasons for the price and those reasons are quality & performance.
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To save manufacturing costs, the lower price tools cut corners such as using softer, less spendy materials that yield rather than transfer force. More importantly, with Doyle tools, the "teeth" are just crosshatch scribe lines cut into the jaws. This is a cost-cutting approach and is astronomically cheaper to manufacture. These will provide a modicum of grip initially, but the grip will fade after a few uses. This is very different from high end tools that have raised, matching, interlocking, & hardened teeth as with these pliers. Please allow me to reiterate: Actual teeth. The performance is unparalleled.
Like all statistics, cost benefit analysis is tricky. One should consider time saved to accomplish a job. For me, these pliers have paid for themselves. Further, the comparison is predicated on the assumption that the two tools can accomplish the same tasks. Highly doubtful. I saw a pair of needlenose at car parts store for $1.00. No joke. This would probably come out ahead due to their price point alone but will probably fail on their first use. What good is CBA if they can't do the job? Perhaps the solution is to buy two.
Clearly, the Knipex is not for everyone as everyone has different needs. If you (generally speaking) need something to bend paperclips, then HF tools are perfect. I certainly wouldn't buy these pliers for paperclip art. If you need to wriggle a shaft pin without dropping it, remove a retaining clip in a gearbox, or drum brakes then purchase these.
There are reasons for the price and those reasons are quality & performance.
Maybe these are overkill for jewelry fabrication and adjustments. For this price I have higher expectations, no rust, no handle split and better gripping ability.
Time will tell, hopefully more expensive and higher quality tools last longer (generational?) and serve me well.
To each there own! 😊
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However, there may be a time I may benefit greatly by having a super long pair of long nose pliers. I just wish the less expensive ones had the multiple gripping zones as well as the grabber jaws.
People who never experienced laborious work using tools (manual or power) may not have the appreciation for fine tools. It's a nice feeling when things work quickly the first time because the tools you are using do exactly what you want them to do because they are designed and built right. Those who have experienced frustrations know the value in paying more for proven quality.
It's a great feeling when you find fine tools at slick deal prices.
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