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MSI Cyborg 15.6" 144hz Gaming Laptop Intel Core i5 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 with 8GB RAM and 512GB SSD Black CYBORG1512046 - $699.99

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Number of HDMI Outputs (Total): 1
Advanced Graphics Rendering Technique(s): DLSS 3 (Deep Learning Super Sampling), Ray tracing
Screen Size: 15.6 inches
Front Facing Camera Video Resolution: 720p
Headphone Jack: true
Number of USB Ports (Total): 3
System Memory RAM Speed: 4800 megahertz
Wireless Networking Standard: Wi-Fi 6
Number of M.2 Slots: 1
Manufacturer's Warranty - Parts: 1 year
CPU Cooling System: Air
Optical Drive Type: None
Color: Black
Storage Type: SSD
System Memory RAM Expandable To: 64 gigabytes
Type of Memory (RAM): DDR5
Built-In Microphone: true
GPU Video Memory (RAM): 6 gigabytes
GPU Brand: NVIDIA
Graphics Type: Dedicated
Product Weight: 4.37 pounds
USB Ports: 2 x USB-A 3.1, 1 x USB-C 3.1
Battery Type: Lithium-ion polymer
Screen Type: IPS
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050
Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
Casing Material: Plastic
Front-Facing Camera: true
Number Of Memory Slots: 2
Display Connector(s): 1 x HDMI 2.1
Wireless Standard: AX
Battery Cells: 4-cell
Color Category: Black
Model Number: CYBORG1512046
Processor Brand: Intel
Touch Screen: false
Operating System: Windows 11 Home
Backlit Keyboard: true
Wireless Connectivity: Bluetooth, Wi-Fi
Product Name: Cyborg 15.6" 144hz Gaming Laptop - Intel Core i5 - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 with 8GB RAM and 512GB SSD
Year of Release: 2023
Processor Model: Intel 12th Generation Core i5
Solid State Drive Capacity: 512 gigabytes
Manufacturer's Warranty - Labor: 1 year
Brand: MSI
System Memory (RAM): 8 gigabytes
ENERGY STAR Certified: true
Number of Memory Sticks Included: 2
EPEAT Qualified: false
Processor Model Number: 12450H
Total Storage Capacity: 512 gigabytes
Refresh Rate: 144Hz

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Model: MSI - Cyborg 15.6" 144hz Gaming Laptop - Intel Core i5 - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 - 512GB SSD - 8GB Memory - Black

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AegisX
07-12-2023 at 09:08 AM.
07-12-2023 at 09:08 AM.
How is this one compared with another MSI here https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Thin-1...B0BT3CD75G
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plus1zero
07-12-2023 at 09:32 AM.
07-12-2023 at 09:32 AM.
Quote from justforthedeals :
I have a $800-1000 budget and I don't know where to start with all the laptop deals. I would appreciate some insight.

I'm looking for a computer that can do this:

1. Portable and doesn't weight so much

2. Can handle some games like the new Diablo and Star Wars

3. Edit Pictures and Video (Photoshop, Final Cut, etc)

4. Can handle Excel, Word, Outlook

5. For code learning like Scratch, Python, Java
Honestly..an upgraded M1 Air or base M2. Especially with the new gaming update they're rolling out. Videos show it running diablo 4 well. Lightweight, stupid good battery life, solid build, etc.

A lot of our programmers have switched to macbooks and run parallels for the windows stuff they need.
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07-12-2023 at 11:53 AM.
07-12-2023 at 11:53 AM.
Quote from AegisX :
How is this one compared with another MSI here https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Thin-1...B0BT3CD75G [amazon.com]
That one looks a bit better, you need to decide if a i7 vs i5, double the ram, and I assume the NVMe is going to be faster than a standard SSD is all worth the $160 extra. Honestly...probably is.
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07-12-2023 at 01:12 PM.
07-12-2023 at 01:12 PM.
Quote from amp9020 :
6GB is going to limit this machine as time goes by as it will be the limiting factor on your gaming experience. I would opt for at least 8GB especially on a laptop since its a fixed component.

It's a budget gaming laptop with 1080p display.....
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07-12-2023 at 04:08 PM.
07-12-2023 at 04:08 PM.
Quote from amp9020 :
6GB is going to limit this machine as time goes by as it will be the limiting factor on your gaming experience. I would opt for at least 8GB especially on a laptop since its a fixed component.

The HP Omen 16 also from Bestbuy with the Radeon 6650m 8gb for $750 is a better buy imo, of course that's if you can live without Nvidia features like dlss since that's main advantage this 4050 has. Frame gen might be useful but idk, it uses extra vram and I don't know how well it will work with just 6gb in heavy games.
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justforthedeals
07-12-2023 at 06:42 PM.
07-12-2023 at 06:42 PM.
Quote from bkatz :
I'm not an expert, but for your needs -- especially playing the latest games -- you're gonna want a laptop with 16gb ram and 8gb video ram at least. This deal has 8gb and 6gb respectively. It shouldn't be hard to find a deal on a machine with the better specs for $100 more or so, which would be the better buy IMO.

Thanks for reply. I see many great deals.
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justforthedeals
07-12-2023 at 06:44 PM.
07-12-2023 at 06:44 PM.
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I don't have professional photo/video editing software any more, but I do more or less all of what you mentioned. Gaming and hobby + professional software dev mostly.

Portable is subjective and can make it tricky to get value for a budget since even modest gaming laptops are fairly pricey now. I'd consider ~5 lbs to be fine for budget since trying to go 4 lbs or less would be extremely limiting for budget gaming laptops.

Do you already have Diablo 4? I've been playing it a lot on my desktops and noticed it's both RAM and VRAM hungry but otherwise runs well. Haven't tried newer Star Wars games myself but saw it's also VRAM and GPU compute heavy. I get around D4 pretty fast at end game so I turned off all upscaling as it doesn't look good to me on 1080p ultrawide 34" monitor. On native, my 8gb VRAM wasn't enough for ultra and high still occasionally stutters (hub town, load new zone etc).

For just learning coding, nearly any decent modern laptop would work. For professional cases, it's often dependent on CPU for faster compile times since it's common for even medium size projects I've worked on to take 15-30 minutes to just compile, run unit tests etc. For learning, your projects would likely build, compile, test etc in <1 minute.

For reference, my personal machine is a desktop i5 11400f and RTX 3060 Ti. Everything feels fine to me. This laptop seems OK for the price, you'd just need to dial down game textures due to VRAM and add more RAM of course. 32GB feels good for most software dev and gaming in my experience.

I don't have D4 but would like to play it. Thanks for reply and sticking it out for a decent deal.
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lartrak
07-13-2023 at 09:13 AM.
07-13-2023 at 09:13 AM.
Quote from plus1zero :
Honestly..an upgraded M1 Air or base M2. Especially with the new gaming update they're rolling out. Videos show it running diablo 4 well. Lightweight, stupid good battery life, solid build, etc.

A lot of our programmers have switched to macbooks and run parallels for the windows stuff they need.

The gaming thing on Mac is pretty limited and has lots of issues right now. If you want to game a lot, I wouldn't say it is there yet.
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07-13-2023 at 10:04 AM.
07-13-2023 at 10:04 AM.
Quote from amp9020 :
GPU Video Memory (RAM): 6 gigabytes
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Of all the limitations on this laptop, you pick out the thing that isn't.... Confused

The fact that the GPU TGP is only 45W is an issue. Display is quite poor. Small ram and drive size. Weak CPU.

There are couple nice machines for <$800 on here... or at least they were yesterday.
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07-14-2023 at 12:16 AM.
07-14-2023 at 12:16 AM.
Quote from plus1zero :
Honestly..an upgraded M1 Air or base M2. Especially with the new gaming update they're rolling out. Videos show it running diablo 4 well. Lightweight, stupid good battery life, solid build, etc.

A lot of our programmers have switched to macbooks and run parallels for the windows stuff they need.
Especially at the budget listed, that'd get the OP fairly weak hardware, a laptop that can't be upgraded, lack of driver and general support for many games including Diablo 4 (not officially supported, at all), and integrated graphics. This is a bad suggestion for someone trying to run the latest games. Every single one of my friends who primarily uses a Mac switched to a Windows machine for playing Diablo 4.

I enjoy using my Macbook for work due to the portability and build quality, but it's purely for sw development and would've cost me well over $2,000. No chance I'd buy that for myself, especially for gaming.
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07-15-2023 at 12:03 PM.
07-15-2023 at 12:03 PM.
Quote from justforthedeals :
I have a $800-1000 budget and I don't know where to start with all the laptop deals. I would appreciate some insight.

I'm looking for a computer that can do this:

1. Portable and doesn't weight so much

2. Can handle some games like the new Diablo and Star Wars

3. Edit Pictures and Video (Photoshop, Final Cut, etc)

4. Can handle Excel, Word, Outlook

5. For code learning like Scratch, Python, Java

Check out the 2022 Legion 5i.
Cons: It's on a heavier side though. 300w charger and not a great life.
Pros: It's a tank and last long, excellent cooling system which is really important for a long life, powerful, RTX 3060, great keypad, heavily customizable.
I bought one yesterday and played Forza 5.
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justforthedeals
07-15-2023 at 12:50 PM.
07-15-2023 at 12:50 PM.
Quote from AnonymousOctopus :
I don't have professional photo/video editing software any more, but I do more or less all of what you mentioned. Gaming and hobby + professional software dev mostly.

Portable is subjective and can make it tricky to get value for a budget since even modest gaming laptops are fairly pricey now. I'd consider ~5 lbs to be fine for budget since trying to go 4 lbs or less would be extremely limiting for budget gaming laptops.

Do you already have Diablo 4? I've been playing it a lot on my desktops and noticed it's both RAM and VRAM hungry but otherwise runs well. Haven't tried newer Star Wars games myself but saw it's also VRAM and GPU compute heavy. I get around D4 pretty fast at end game so I turned off all upscaling as it doesn't look good to me on 1080p ultrawide 34" monitor. On native, my 8gb VRAM wasn't enough for ultra and high still occasionally stutters (hub town, load new zone etc).

For just learning coding, nearly any decent modern laptop would work. For professional cases, it's often dependent on CPU for faster compile times since it's common for even medium size projects I've worked on to take 15-30 minutes to just compile, run unit tests etc. For learning, your projects would likely build, compile, test etc in <1 minute.

For reference, my personal machine is a desktop i5 11400f and RTX 3060 Ti. Everything feels fine to me. This laptop seems OK for the price, you'd just need to dial down game textures due to VRAM and add more RAM of course. 32GB feels good for most software dev and gaming in my experience.

Thanks. I was looking at the HP Omen but sold out. I noticed the new Legion Pro deal but its $1,300+, or the Dell G15 or Alienware. I'm going to hold off a bit and see if any new delas rise up.

Legion Pro 5 $1,300+: https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/16796447

Dell G15 $1,169 :
https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/16790834

Alienware M17 $1,125:
https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/fp/847058
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AnonymousOctopus
07-16-2023 at 09:25 PM.
07-16-2023 at 09:25 PM.
Quote from justforthedeals :
Thanks. I was looking at the HP Omen but sold out. I noticed the new Legion Pro deal but its $1,300+, or the Dell G15 or Alienware. I'm going to hold off a bit and see if any new delas rise up.

Legion Pro 5 $1,300+: https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/16796447

Dell G15 $1,169 :
https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/16790834

Alienware M17 $1,125:
https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/fp/847058
Ah yeah I see a lot of good reviews for the Legion in general, but it's a bit pricey. I do think the number of people recommending them is higher though because it's frequently recommended by a big youtube laptop channel, Jarrod's Tech. That guy's channel is solid if you want to know how mainstream games will run on about medium/high settings. He doesn't seem to push with some of the latest games or with ultra settings like PC/desktop reviewers though since the channel caters to laptop gamers and the likely concessions being made. You could also check Hardware Unboxed for that as they do push games/settings, and that helps me get a better idea of the potential longevity of a CPU/GPU since I'd like to do more than simply play current games at medium personally if I buy new parts or a laptop.

What settings and approximate FPS do you want to play at btw? From everything you listed, the 2023 games are definitely the most demanding things you'd run so I'd plan and budget around that. I'd also note, FSR/DLSS quality (lowest setting) are OK but not that big of a help for 1080p. There's a modest fps bump along with some artifacts and visual errors. I tried 1440p and 4k monitors as well at work and when visiting friends. 4k especially was definitely better at masking the flaws of upscaling.
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07-16-2023 at 10:00 PM.
07-16-2023 at 10:00 PM.
Quote from amp9020 :
6GB is going to limit this machine as time goes by as it will be the limiting factor on your gaming experience. I would opt for at least 8GB especially on a laptop since its a fixed component.
At what price point?
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