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Synology NAS Enclosures: DS220+ 2-Bay $240, DS923+ 4-Bay

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firefox15
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I think that people underestimate the important of ease of use as you get older, when time becomes more valuable than money and tinkering.

All these people talking about Unraid setups, custom boxes that use a ton of power, loud fans in a big chassis, etc. just doesn't really appeal to me. This stuff needs to pass the WAF.

I work on enterprise IT architecture every day. I definitely have the skills to do this and have in the past. But I have a wife and kids and a home to maintain, and honestly, Synology does it well, and I don't want to waste my time.

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And then noise canceling headphones to help not go insane.
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Do you know how loud they can be?
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Jul 11, 2023 4:05 AM
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jdang2015Jul 11, 2023 4:05 AM
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Quote from bjgfromthe703 View quoted comment :
guess their clocks are a little behind
Here I was thinking I missed something...

Edit: So the 220+ went on sale but not the 923+
Last edited by jdang2015 July 10, 2023 at 09:19 PM.
Jul 11, 2023 4:07 AM
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FredericoRJul 11, 2023 4:07 AM
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Hmmmm. 12:06 and no deal appearing. Am I just impatient or did I miss out at 10 seconds after midnight?
Jul 11, 2023 4:08 AM
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dcliveJul 11, 2023 4:08 AM
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Quote from Gencom View quoted comment :
the NVME comes in to play when you writing large files, it will write them to the cache first and then to the drives, pretty much getting them on the machine faster. Also it would help in video playback. One thing to consider about SSD is they can only be erased / written over so many times before you have to replace them. So in a heave Input / output case it isn't ideal. cavet to this is enterprise ssd's they have way more cycles than consumer.

I don't know how tech savy you are, but I run synology in a vm with 4 drives dedicated to it and it does everything I need.
The NVME SSD cache on a Synology typically helps most with small files accessed by multiple people on the LAN, rather than large files, and so large media files typically aren't helped at all by the Synology cache.

If that sounds like it wouldn't help most people's (home) use case much, that's because for most people, it wouldn't.

Let's remember that the 923+ can use 2 NVME SSDs and 4 HDDs. For a backup, photos, Plex media box, buy big hard drives and use them; SSDs won't benefit here.

For running virtual machines, put them on NVME storage. This is the script you'll want in order to do that: https://github.com/007revad/Synology_HDD_db

Remember that you're stuck with gigabit (unless you buy the 10GBe NIC and upgrade your home network) so that (110MB/s or so) will be a constraint. 110MB/s is far slower than a SATA SSD, and far slower than an NVME SSD. That said, an SSD is still wise for running VMs via NFS, since the access, IO, IOPS rates of an SSD are vastly better than a 4 disk RAID set; the VMs will be a good bit faster on the SSD, even given the 110MB/s constraint.

I own one of these, and I own a DS423+. AMA.
Jul 11, 2023 4:11 AM
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dcliveJul 11, 2023 4:11 AM
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Don't know why someone down voted you, as you are actually correct. id choose a hp Z840 or something myself but the execution is still the same.
  • Workstation / Server
  • Esxi
  • HBA Card in IT mode
  • create all the VM's you need.

But the synology products have their market... so the price premium is worth it.
I'm not sure exactly how ESXi and Synology enter into the same usecase. (In other words, for a fileserver, why run ESXi underneath it?) I see them as completely different; the Synology is the NFS mount for the ESXi server, so that vMotion, Storage DRS, etc. all can work. And I'd never dream of getting a hot, noisy workstation as a (home) ESXi server. I typically reuse parts I already have, but if I were buying new, a Lenovo TinyPC or Intel NUC makes a great ESXi server. I would look at a larger PC for 10GBe, but otherwise, there's little point to big, noisy PCs for this stuff.
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Jul 11, 2023 4:11 AM
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zeugmaJul 11, 2023 4:11 AM
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I own one of these, and I own a DS423+. AMA.
What practical use cases require a DS923+ vs. DS220+, other than obviously number of slots, but suppose that isn't the issue.
Jul 11, 2023 4:13 AM
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dcliveJul 11, 2023 4:13 AM
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I've had trouble with a 2 year old mini HP desktop transcoding 4k high bitrate home GoPro video via Plex to my TV. It keeps buffering so I had to switch the content to a Plex server instance running on my MacBook and that ran fine so it was apparently the processor.

All that to ask....will the 220 nas prevent me from streaming high res content?
With or without PlexPass?

Can the TV play the content natively, or can you add an AppleTV so it can play the content natively?
Jul 11, 2023 4:15 AM
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zeugmaJul 11, 2023 4:15 AM
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Quote from dclive View quoted comment :
I'm not sure exactly how ESXi and Synology enter into the same usecase. (In other words, for a fileserver, why run ESXi underneath it?) I see them as completely different; the Synology is the NFS mount for the ESXi server, so that vMotion, Storage DRS, etc. all can work. And I'd never dream of getting a hot, noisy workstation as a (home) ESXi server. I typically reuse parts I already have, but if I were buying new, a Lenovo TinyPC or Intel NUC makes a great ESXi server. I would look at a larger PC for 10GBe, but otherwise, there's little point to big, noisy PCs for this stuff.
Exactly, these people want a server, not a NAS, then complain about underpowered NAS's when the real point is low-power, always-on and total storage abstraction. Do that well and nothing else and I'd be happy.

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Jul 11, 2023 4:15 AM
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dcliveJul 11, 2023 4:15 AM
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What practical use cases require a DS923+ vs. DS220+, other than obviously number of slots, but suppose that isn't the issue.
It's all in what you want to do with it. If you just want bulk storage (ie something to hang on a network and do Mac Time Machine backups or Windows disk backups) then none of this matters; avoid the + stuff, and get a 220j or 420j or basic 423 or something.

If you want to run apps on the box itself, then (if app=Plex & Friends) get an Intel CPU, like the 220+ or 423+. Then get PlexPass.

If you want to run apps on the box itself, then (if app (does not equal) Plex & Friends) get either, whatever's cheaper, realizing that the AMD chip (in the 923+) is a bit faster.

Add a RAM chip if you like, for more RAM, but for most it won't be required.

Add an NVME SSD for caching or for faster i/o, if that's your thing, but for most it won't be required.
Jul 11, 2023 4:16 AM
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kuhzorkisJul 11, 2023 4:16 AM
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This website is straight trash right now 😔
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noraziJul 11, 2023 4:17 AM
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Is this deal happening tonight? I would like to go to sleep
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green_bearJul 11, 2023 4:18 AM
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Deal is live
Jul 11, 2023 4:18 AM
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toddstsJul 11, 2023 4:18 AM
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It's live now, at least for the DS 220+. Just grabbed one for $240. Thanks OP!
Jul 11, 2023 4:18 AM
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bjgfromthe703Jul 11, 2023 4:18 AM
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its live
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Quote from dclive View quoted comment :
The NVME SSD cache on a Synology typically helps most with small files accessed by multiple people on the LAN, rather than large files, and so large media files typically aren't helped at all by the Synology cache.

If that sounds like it wouldn't help most people's (home) use case much, that's because for most people, it wouldn't.

Let's remember that the 923+ can use 2 NVME SSDs and 4 HDDs. For a backup, photos, Plex media box, buy big hard drives and use them; SSDs won't benefit here.

For running virtual machines, put them on NVME storage. This is the script you'll want in order to do that: https://github.com/007revad/Synology_HDD_db

Remember that you're stuck with gigabit (unless you buy the 10GBe NIC and upgrade your home network) so that (110MB/s or so) will be a constraint. 110MB/s is far slower than a SATA SSD, and far slower than an NVME SSD. That said, an SSD is still wise for running VMs via NFS, since the access, IO, IOPS rates of an SSD are vastly better than a 4 disk RAID set; the VMs will be a good bit faster on the SSD, even given the 110MB/s constraint.

I own one of these, and I own a DS423+. AMA.
Does backblaze work with the NAS? Is the Synology photo app good? Is it a good substitute for Google photos?

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Jul 11, 2023 4:21 AM
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noraziJul 11, 2023 4:21 AM
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Deal is live
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It's live now, at least for the DS 220+. Just grabbed one for $240. Thanks OP!
Quote from bjgfromthe703 View quoted comment :
its live

Actually waiting for the WRX560.... its the only one thats not live for some reason

EDIT, now its live!

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