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Synology NAS Enclosures: DS220+ 2-Bay $240, DS923+ 4-Bay

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I think that people underestimate the important of ease of use as you get older, when time becomes more valuable than money and tinkering.

All these people talking about Unraid setups, custom boxes that use a ton of power, loud fans in a big chassis, etc. just doesn't really appeal to me. This stuff needs to pass the WAF.

I work on enterprise IT architecture every day. I definitely have the skills to do this and have in the past. But I have a wife and kids and a home to maintain, and honestly, Synology does it well, and I don't want to waste my time.

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And then noise canceling headphones to help not go insane.
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Do you know how loud they can be?
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Jul 11, 2023 4:23 AM
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GencomJul 11, 2023 4:23 AM
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Quote from dclive View quoted comment :
I'm not sure exactly how ESXi and Synology enter into the same usecase. (In other words, for a fileserver, why run ESXi underneath it?) I see them as completely different; the Synology is the NFS mount for the ESXi server, so that vMotion, Storage DRS, etc. all can work. And I'd never dream of getting a hot, noisy workstation as a (home) ESXi server. I typically reuse parts I already have, but if I were buying new, a Lenovo TinyPC or Intel NUC makes a great ESXi server. I would look at a larger PC for 10GBe, but otherwise, there's little point to big, noisy PCs for this stuff.
More so as I run synology os in a esxi VM, which makes sense in my case because the workstation is on 24/7 regardless. So I dedicated a few cores to the synology vm and pass through disks to it a simple nas with no performance hit.

As far as noise.. I run a Hp Z840 (older hardware sure) but it's near silent
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Jul 11, 2023 4:24 AM
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dilleiJul 11, 2023 4:24 AM
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I wanted one for a while but not sure which. I want to replace my 10+ year old 4tb hdd. Mainly for photo, movies, and some documents. Also would like to build my own home cloud storage. Will the 220+ be enough or should I go for 923+?
Jul 11, 2023 4:24 AM
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dcliveJul 11, 2023 4:24 AM
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Does backblaze work with the NAS? Is the Synology photo app good? Is it a good substitute for Google photos?
google is your friend. Backblaze directly talks about Synology a lot; it's obviously a primary backup target: https://www.backblaze.com/b2/part...ology.html

I find the Synology photo app to be crap, but I'm used to Apple Photos, which is one of the best on the market; you might not mind it. It can import all your photos from the thousand you dump on the drive, it can organize them by physical location and other metadata or tags, and it can recognize faces, with a bit of help from you, to put all of the "Joan" photos in one group, let's say. And then it can easily share out the photos from there. Multiple users can then use, add, modify, etc. the photos.
Jul 11, 2023 4:25 AM
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dcliveJul 11, 2023 4:25 AM
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Quote from dillei View quoted comment :
I wanted one for a while but not sure which. I want to replace my 10+ year old 4tb hdd. Mainly for photo, movies, and some documents. Also would like to build my own home cloud storage. Will the 220+ be enough or should I go for 923+?
Only you can answer that; do you need 2 drives, or four?

I would stick with an Intel CPU, I would grab PlexPass, and I would run Plex, if you want a great movie/TV experience. If your needs are simpler and you just want a backup target, none of these plus models are required; a more basic model would be plenty fast.
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Jul 11, 2023 4:25 AM
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TheCryptkeeperJul 11, 2023 4:25 AM
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Good deal. Would get this but already bought the DS1621+ when it went on sale for $720 last month.
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Jul 11, 2023 4:27 AM
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cj0rJul 11, 2023 4:27 AM
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Unraid (or similar OS) + repurposed PC or BYO... Save a lot of money and have a lot more flexibility. I honestly don't understand why Synology is so popular and successful when there's so many easy alternative options out there. You can easily build a near silent, 12+ bay, low energy, yet powerful server for this money and it doesn't require a lot of time or learning to do it.

Not trying to thread crap but I honestly don't see the value of this especially when coming from a Slickdeals perspective.
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Jul 11, 2023 4:30 AM
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dilleiJul 11, 2023 4:30 AM
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Quote from dclive View quoted comment :
Only you can answer that; do you need 2 drives, or four?

I would stick with an Intel CPU, I would grab PlexPass, and I would run Plex, if you want a great movie/TV experience. If your needs are simpler and you just want a backup target, none of these plus models are required; a more basic model would be plenty fast.
Is 4 drives more advised? I read some said 1 drive as main and 1 drive are mirror backup or something like that. I am pretty new to NAS. I might eventually tinker some home streaming but don't have Plex at the moment.

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Jul 11, 2023 4:30 AM
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dcliveJul 11, 2023 4:30 AM
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More so as I run synology os in a esxi VM, which makes sense in my case because the workstation is on 24/7 regardless. So I dedicated a few cores to the synology vm and pass through disks to it a simple nas with no performance hit.

As far as noise.. I run a Hp Z840 (older hardware sure) but it's near silent
That just _sounds_ hot.

ESXi doesn't dedicate outside of some forced scenarios. Do you really mean you dedicated cores to just the Synology (XPNology) VM?

If your ESXi host goes down (for upgrades, etc.) you lose the Synology. I find that unappealing. Even a cheap 220+ would give you an always-up NFS mount…

Do you really put NFS share for ESXi on the Synology? Or is the ESXi host just using local storage for VMs? That strikes me as a VM inside a VM with shaky to begin with shared storage…. Hmm…

XPNology isn't supported, they've had problems getting 7.1-1 going on it, and there's no way I would ever trust my data to a hack.

I think dedicated hardware for storage is wise, particularly as one uses ESXi more and more.
Jul 11, 2023 4:31 AM
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metaldoodJul 11, 2023 4:31 AM
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Quote from cj0r View quoted comment :
Unraid (or similar OS) + repurposed PC or BYO... Save a lot of money and have a lot more flexibility. I honestly don't understand why Synology is so popular and successful when there's so many easy alternative options out there. You can easily build a near silent, 12+ bay, low energy, yet powerful server for this money and it doesn't require a lot of time or learning to do it.

Not trying to thread crap but I honestly don't see the value of this especially when coming from a Slickdeals perspective.
Do you have a PCPartPicker link for building such a server?
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Jul 11, 2023 4:32 AM
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dcliveJul 11, 2023 4:32 AM
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Is 4 drives more advised? I read some said 1 drive as main and 1 drive are mirror backup or something like that. I am pretty new to NAS. I might eventually tinker some home streaming but don't have Plex at the moment.
It's a question of how much storage you need. If you buy 2 20TB drives at $300 each, then you're in for $600 plus the $240 of the 220+. You then have 20TB of usable storage. Is that sufficient, or do you need 60TB of usable storage that a DS923+ would give you?

I add RAID in there (and the space loss with RAID) as running anything else in a dedicated storage box isn't wise.

Do you need to run applications? If not, a 220j might be more than enough.

It all depends on what you want to do, and how…
Jul 11, 2023 4:35 AM
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dcliveJul 11, 2023 4:35 AM
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Quote from cj0r View quoted comment :
Unraid (or similar OS) + repurposed PC or BYO... Save a lot of money and have a lot more flexibility. I honestly don't understand why Synology is so popular and successful when there's so many easy alternative options out there. You can easily build a near silent, 12+ bay, low energy, yet powerful server for this money and it doesn't require a lot of time or learning to do it.

Not trying to thread crap but I honestly don't see the value of this especially when coming from a Slickdeals perspective.
Buy once cry once. My old DS414 lasted for 9 years before I replaced it. I put drives into it, got an alert on a disk failure one day (and did the obvious) but otherwise I never needed to mess with it. That's a big benefit.

I'd like to see a PCPartPicker report too of your setup. Please be sure to include hot-swap drive cages in a tiny case with no noise, no heat, and super low power usage.
Jul 11, 2023 4:43 AM
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scraejtpJul 11, 2023 4:43 AM
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Quote from dclive View quoted comment :
Buy once cry once. My old DS414 lasted for 9 years before I replaced it. I put drives into it, got an alert on a disk failure one day (and did the obvious) but otherwise I never needed to mess with it. That's a big benefit.

I'd like to see a PCPartPicker report too of your setup. Please be sure to include hot-swap drive cages in a tiny case with no noise, no heat, and super low power usage.
You could pickup a used HP Microserver Gen8/10 for half the cost with all the same features and a lot more flexibility.

Just an example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/26632480...3e0231fa42

You can go a lot cheaper if you remove the need for hot swap drives, which realistically anyone buying one of these simple NAS systems does not need.
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Jul 11, 2023 4:44 AM
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zeugmaJul 11, 2023 4:44 AM
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Quote from cj0r View quoted comment :
Unraid (or similar OS) + repurposed PC or BYO... Save a lot of money and have a lot more flexibility. I honestly don't understand why Synology is so popular and successful when there's so many easy alternative options out there. You can easily build a near silent, 12+ bay, low energy, yet powerful server for this money and it doesn't require a lot of time or learning to do it.

Not trying to thread crap but I honestly don't see the value of this especially when coming from a Slickdeals perspective.
I was with you until low energy. The DS220+ is 5W idle. What can you build in that range? I have not seen it.
Jul 11, 2023 4:45 AM
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cj0rJul 11, 2023 4:45 AM
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Quote from metaldood View quoted comment :
Do you have a PCPartPicker link for building such a server?
Check the forums on servethehome.com, serverbuilds.net, and unraid's own forums for builds that fit your need/budget. They can be super simple like repurposing a $100 Facebook HP desktop or beasts capable of holding 30 drives and simultaneously encoding 10x 4k videos. That's the beauty of those solutions in that you really can do whatever you want beyond simple NAS purposes.
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Jul 11, 2023 4:50 AM
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dilleiJul 11, 2023 4:50 AM
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Quote from dclive View quoted comment :
It's a question of how much storage you need. If you buy 2 20TB drives at $300 each, then you're in for $600 plus the $240 of the 220+. You then have 20TB of usable storage. Is that sufficient, or do you need 60TB of usable storage that a DS923+ would give you?

I add RAID in there (and the space loss with RAID) as running anything else in a dedicated storage box isn't wise.

Do you need to run applications? If not, a 220j might be more than enough.

It all depends on what you want to do, and how…
Thanks for your input, I think I am going to go for the 220+. Aside, I see there is the IronWolf NAS 12tb for $179 each, whats your thought on that drive? If I get 2 it'll bring me to $600 for 220+ and 14tb, I think that'd be plenty for me for a while.
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