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Specialized Kenevo Expert E-Mountain Bike

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$5,800

$9,000

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Specialized has Specialized Kenevo Expert E-Mountain Bike (select colors/sizes) for $5799.99. Specialized Delivery is $50 per item where available, otherwise select $50 per item in-store pickup where stock permits (delivery/pickup fees include professional assembly). $15 per item Environmental Recycling Fee may also apply.

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Note: Available sizes may vary by color. Availability for delivery/pickup may vary by location.

Features:
  • Frame: Specialized M5 Premium Aluminum, 27.5 Trail Geometry, integrated down tube battery, enclosed internal cable, Command Post routing, 148mm spacing, fully sealed cartridge bearings, 180mm of travel
  • Fork: RockShox Boxxer Select RC, 27.5, DebonAir, 20x110mm Boost, 35mm chassis, 180mm of travel
  • Seat Binder: Alloy, 38.6mm
  • Rear Shock: RockShox Super Deluxe Select Plus, 230 x 62.5mm
  • Stem: Descendant 35mm Direct Mount Stem, 50mm length
  • Handlebars: Specialized Trail, 7050 alloy, 8-degree backsweep, 6-degree upsweep, 30mm rise, 800mm, 35mm clamp
  • Grips: Deity, Knuckleduster, Black
  • Saddle: Bridge, 155/143mm, Hollow Ti-rails
  • SeatPost: OneUp, Dropper Post-V2, MMX lever, 34.9 (S2: 120mm, S3: 150mm, S4: 180mm, S5: 210mm)
  • Front Brake: SRAM Code RS, 4-piston caliper, hydraulic disc, 220mm
  • Rear Brake: SRAM Code RS, 4-piston caliper, hydraulic disc, 220mm
  • Rear Derailleur: Sram X01 Eagle, 12-speed
  • Shift Levers: SRAM XO1 Eagle trigger, 12-speed, single click
  • Cassette: Sram XG-1275, 12-speed, 10-52t
  • Chain: SRAM GX Eagle, 12-speed
  • Crankset: Praxis forged M30, custom offset, 160mm
  • Chainrings: SRAM X-Sync Eagle, 104BCD, 32T, steel
  • Rims: Roval 27.5" Alloy DH, 28mm internal width, 32h, tubeless ready
  • Front Hub: Alloy, sealed cartridge bearings, 20x110mm, 28h
  • Rear Hub: DT Swiss 370, 6-bolt, 12x148mm thru-axle, 32h
  • Spokes: DT Swiss Industry
  • Front Tire: Butcher Grid Gravity 2Bliss Ready T9, 27.5 x 2.6"
  • Rear Tire: Butcher Grid Gravity 2Bliss Ready T9, 27.5 x 2.6"
  • Inner Tubes: Presta, 40mm valve
  • Motor: Specialized Turbo Full Power System 2.2 Motor
  • UI/Remote: Specialized MasterMind TCU, percentage of remaining charge, 120 possible display configurations, MicroTune assist adjustment, over-the-air updates, ANT+/Bluetooth®, w/Handlebar remote
  • Battery: Specialized M2-700, integrated battery w/rock guard, 700Wh
  • Charger: Custom charger, 42V4A w/ Rosenberger plug, 100-240V
  • Wiring Harness: Custom Specialized harness
  • SWAT: Specialized Z-Cage, Swat CC Multi Tool in steerer tube without Chaintool

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Specialized has Specialized Kenevo Expert E-Mountain Bike (select colors/sizes) for $5799.99. Specialized Delivery is $50 per item where available, otherwise select $50 per item in-store pickup where stock permits (delivery/pickup fees include professional assembly). $15 per item Environmental Recycling Fee may also apply.

Thanks to Community Member pmrowczynski for sharing this deal.

Note: Available sizes may vary by color. Availability for delivery/pickup may vary by location.

Features:
  • Frame: Specialized M5 Premium Aluminum, 27.5 Trail Geometry, integrated down tube battery, enclosed internal cable, Command Post routing, 148mm spacing, fully sealed cartridge bearings, 180mm of travel
  • Fork: RockShox Boxxer Select RC, 27.5, DebonAir, 20x110mm Boost, 35mm chassis, 180mm of travel
  • Seat Binder: Alloy, 38.6mm
  • Rear Shock: RockShox Super Deluxe Select Plus, 230 x 62.5mm
  • Stem: Descendant 35mm Direct Mount Stem, 50mm length
  • Handlebars: Specialized Trail, 7050 alloy, 8-degree backsweep, 6-degree upsweep, 30mm rise, 800mm, 35mm clamp
  • Grips: Deity, Knuckleduster, Black
  • Saddle: Bridge, 155/143mm, Hollow Ti-rails
  • SeatPost: OneUp, Dropper Post-V2, MMX lever, 34.9 (S2: 120mm, S3: 150mm, S4: 180mm, S5: 210mm)
  • Front Brake: SRAM Code RS, 4-piston caliper, hydraulic disc, 220mm
  • Rear Brake: SRAM Code RS, 4-piston caliper, hydraulic disc, 220mm
  • Rear Derailleur: Sram X01 Eagle, 12-speed
  • Shift Levers: SRAM XO1 Eagle trigger, 12-speed, single click
  • Cassette: Sram XG-1275, 12-speed, 10-52t
  • Chain: SRAM GX Eagle, 12-speed
  • Crankset: Praxis forged M30, custom offset, 160mm
  • Chainrings: SRAM X-Sync Eagle, 104BCD, 32T, steel
  • Rims: Roval 27.5" Alloy DH, 28mm internal width, 32h, tubeless ready
  • Front Hub: Alloy, sealed cartridge bearings, 20x110mm, 28h
  • Rear Hub: DT Swiss 370, 6-bolt, 12x148mm thru-axle, 32h
  • Spokes: DT Swiss Industry
  • Front Tire: Butcher Grid Gravity 2Bliss Ready T9, 27.5 x 2.6"
  • Rear Tire: Butcher Grid Gravity 2Bliss Ready T9, 27.5 x 2.6"
  • Inner Tubes: Presta, 40mm valve
  • Motor: Specialized Turbo Full Power System 2.2 Motor
  • UI/Remote: Specialized MasterMind TCU, percentage of remaining charge, 120 possible display configurations, MicroTune assist adjustment, over-the-air updates, ANT+/Bluetooth®, w/Handlebar remote
  • Battery: Specialized M2-700, integrated battery w/rock guard, 700Wh
  • Charger: Custom charger, 42V4A w/ Rosenberger plug, 100-240V
  • Wiring Harness: Custom Specialized harness
  • SWAT: Specialized Z-Cage, Swat CC Multi Tool in steerer tube without Chaintool

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akirasan
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I personally do not think this is a great deal. This is one of the heavier full fat ebikes, which is due for a redesign hopefully soon. The suspension design is also notorious for breaking rear shocks ( not sure if it has been fixed or if it's even possible to fix on this design).

I feel like the real deal at this time is for their kenovo sl comp, for $200 more you get a full carbol frame which honestly has enough power for anything ( unless you ride with buddies on full fat ebikes that use turbo / boost mode mostly ), while still being light enough to pedal up hill with the motor off ( as low as 39lb I believe ).

https://www.specialized.com/us/en...000-199105

I own 4 bikes, a full fat ( santa Cruz : bullit ), 2 regular bikes ( 2019 evil : offering , 2021 specialized : enduro ) and my SL ebike ( Kenovo SL ), I honestly feel like SL's ( "super light ebikes ) are the sweet spot at the moment , I find myself never riding my full fat and only riding my regular bikes when everyone I am riding with is on regular bikes. My SL weighs only 4lb more than my spesh enduro ( they are practically the same bike, one just has a motor and the other doesnt ).

If you can wait, I'd wait. The SL Bikes are becoming more powerful whilst still being substantially lighter then full fats. Is the extra power needed? No, not really, but Bosch just announced their new SL motor / battery which looks great!

These are just my 2 cents, and what I've found from owning many bikes.


edited : to fix the actual price difference between kenevo / kenevo sl.
Dimitris
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Personal insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong.
Keep it coming.
Dimitris
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What about people's first car being cheaper?

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DimitrisJul 22, 2023 09:53 PM
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Quote from FaithfulSnow603 :
And it's easier to steal too! Seriously some sort of effective factory security is sorely lacking. Any lock can be cut in half a minute or less and your 6 grand is gone.
Good car thiefs do the same tho...
And to much more expensive cars.
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SDSummerDayJul 23, 2023 03:45 AM
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Quote from Dimitris :
What about people's first car being cheaper?
I am not the target audience but... There are plenty of things that cost more than most people's first car. Like a hermes handbag for example, functionality wise it is not different than a plastic shopping bag, or any luxury watches for that matter, which again functionality wise no better than a 20 dollar quartz watch.
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DimitrisJul 23, 2023 03:58 AM
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Quote from seanleeforever :
I am not the target audience but... There are plenty of things that cost more than most people's first car. Like a hermes handbag for example, functionality wise it is not different than a plastic shopping bag, or any luxury watches for that matter, which again functionality wise no better than a 20 dollar quartz watch.
Yeah, I am teasing on the car example that is often brought up...at least on bikes over $1k.

Cycling is a luxury sport and plagued by diminishing returns per $ invested, but as you identify, it is far from the last money pit around us.

I know more than a handful of ppl with $300+ gym memberships (edit: a month) that net them BS results...if you burn your money on those vs buying a Kenevo every 2y, is one and the same for me (or better, cause you can fire sell the kenevo and recoup at least a % of your donation).
Last edited by Dimitris July 22, 2023 at 09:01 PM.
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Jul 23, 2023 02:45 PM
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LrossitechJul 23, 2023 02:45 PM
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There's a price point that's right for you no matter what bike. Once you're above a few K the value for your money plummets.
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CalmCreator709Jul 23, 2023 04:18 PM
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This is a slick deal based on price. But I'm wondering if people actually spent $9,000 on this bike if it was not on sale. The people don't spend $9,000 and it's just the MSRP while the company waits before they put it on periodic sale, then maybe it's not a slick deal
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DimitrisJul 23, 2023 04:45 PM
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Quote from CalmCreator709 :
This is a slick deal based on price. But I'm wondering if people actually spent $9,000 on this bike if it was not on sale. The people don't spend $9,000 and it's just the MSRP while the company waits before they put it on periodic sale, then maybe it's not a slick deal
Some people did.
Again, once you climb up the ladder of $ brackets (say: "Walmart" < $500 < $1000 < $2,500 < $5,000 < $10,000) it becomes an exponentially more niche market, that has very few people actually pulling the trigger, but from what I've been hearing, due to pandemic shortages from which we only partially recovered now, it was the high-end (aka expensive even for those already bitten by the bug) bikes that were OOS everywhere - perhaps because it is high-end components that there would be the least availability for but also companies would have the hardest time to ramp up production for - even if they wanted to.

Even for Tour events last year, companies would compromise and get "lesser than" due to shortages (we need to realize that some of the teams have more top-end bikes for that year or even one event than individual EU countries will sell to individuals).
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JayhawkDealsJul 23, 2023 08:00 PM
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Below 1k on BF? I'll wait.
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DimitrisJul 23, 2023 09:00 PM
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Quote from yzhai :
How about just getting an actual dirt bike like a CRF300 or KLX300? Those are still cheaper than this bike
How about letting people who like oranges eat oranges, instead of suggesting them apples?

Novel ideal, I know, but riding a bicycle/MTBs is not something for people who cannot afford motos, and even the eMTB experience is completely different than that of a dirt-bike or moto in general?

Or should I reverse the argument based on your own words, that perhaps it is "the poors/proletariats" that think buying cheap dirt bikes, and the bourgeois that buy them "gold plated" bicycles? laugh out loud

Or cheaper boats, or cars, or RC "anything", or PC gaming, or handbags & watches or w/e is your "hobby" you can sink $ into to have some fun and - for some mainly - stroke your ego and try to impress your friends.

YMMV

Oh, and so that I don't forget, you are comparing a mass produced, bottom of the barrel moto (e.g. fork on the CRF300 is what? $200?) with a mid/top shelf MTB with a $1300+ fork.
Don't take offense, I am not gatekeeping or calling you a "peasant" (was joking about MTBs being for the bourgeois above...or was ? :p ), but once you start looking into dirt bikes with >$1300 forks and hand build this and that (.e.g more in-line with the top-shelf eMTB you "think" you know about), i.e. race dirt bikes, you will be in the fat 5 figures...and people who run those, look at econobike commuters like the KLX300/CRF300 and say, sorry, no, not what I'm looking for. And true top-shelf dirt bikes that run in nationals and world cups - comparable to $10K-15K "factory race bikes" - are over $100K.
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gamingdroidJul 23, 2023 09:14 PM
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I was looking at this post thinking how cheap e-bikes gotten at $580. Looks a little closer, oh... it's $5800. Nothing's changed. Maybe even got worse.
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Quote from akirasan :
I personally do not think this is a great deal. This is one of the heavier full fat ebikes, which is due for a redesign hopefully soon. The suspension design is also notorious for breaking rear shocks ( not sure if it has been fixed or if it's even possible to fix on this design).

I feel like the real deal at this time is for their kenovo sl comp, for $400 you get a full carbol frame which honestly has enough power for anything ( unless you ride with buddies on full fat ebikes that use turbo / boost mode mostly ), while still being light enough to pedal up hill with the motor off ( as low as 39lb I believe ).

https://www.specialized.com/us/en...000-199105

I own 4 bikes, a full fat ( santa Cruz : bullit ), 2 regular bikes ( 2019 evil : offering , 2021 specialized : enduro ) and my SL ebike ( Kenovo SL ), I honestly feel like SL's ( "super light ebikes ) are the sweet spot at the moment , I find myself never riding my full fat and only riding my regular bikes when everyone I am riding with is on regular bikes. My SL weighs only 4lb more than my spesh enduro ( they are practically the same bike, one just has a motor and the other doesnt ).

If you can wait, I'd wait. The SL Bikes are becoming more powerful whilst still being substantially lighter then full fats. Is the extra power needed? No, not really, but Bosch just announced their new SL motor / battery which looks great!

These are just my 2 cents, and what I've found from owning many bikes.
I've said this before, and I'll say it again.
Everyone I know who has bought an "SL" electric bike from Specialized has sold it at a substantial loss and bought a full-power ebike instead.
The "SL" bikes weigh less than a full-power ebike because they have a smaller motor and battery, but they still weigh a LOT more than any acoustic bike, so they still feel like an ebike.
You're too fast for the acoustic bikers, and too slow to keep up with other ebikers.
And there's no way to "derestrict" an SL and turn it into a full-power ebike.

I'm not trying to start a flame war -- I'm respectfully disagreeing based on my own experience.
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CAL_BEARJul 23, 2023 09:39 PM
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Thanks for posting...Thumbsup

...but taxes/delivery kill-it for me, @ close to $600. Frown
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Quote from IndigoKnob7008 :
I've said this before, and I'll say it again.
Everyone I know who has bought an "SL" electric bike from Specialized has sold it at a substantial loss and bought a full-power ebike instead.
The "SL" bikes weigh less than a full-power ebike because they have a smaller motor and battery, but they still weigh a LOT more than any acoustic bike, so they still feel like an ebike.
You're too fast for the acoustic bikers, and too slow to keep up with other ebikers.
And there's no way to "derestrict" an SL and turn it into a full-power ebike.

I'm not trying to start a flame war -- I'm respectfully disagreeing based on my own experience.
sounds like SL means significant loss
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Quote from seanleeforever :
I am not the target audience but... There are plenty of things that cost more than most people's first car. Like a hermes handbag for example, functionality wise it is not different than a plastic shopping bag, or any luxury watches for that matter, which again functionality wise no better than a 20 dollar quartz watch.
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