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Refurbished: 14TB Western Digital Ultrastar 7.2K RPM SATA 3.5" Hard Drives

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ServerPartDeals has select 14TB Western Digital Ultrastar 7.2K RPM SATA 3.5" Hard Drives (Manufacturer Recertified) on sale for $117.22 each. Shipping is free.

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ServerPartDeals has select 14TB Western Digital Ultrastar 7.2K RPM SATA 3.5" Hard Drives (Manufacturer Recertified) on sale for $117.22 each. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member TalentedHaddock2057 for sharing this deal.

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Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • All listed hard drives qualify for a 2-year limited warranty and qualify for 30-day returns.
    • These prices are $17.77 Lower than our previous similar FP Deal from February '23.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional details and community discussion.

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wlandy
The second model(WUH721414ALE6L1) is the one WITHOUT the feature of power disable(3rd pin in SATA). In some motherboard and external enclosure, the drive might not start if the drive have power disable 3pin feature(the first model). The fix is quick but if you prefer fewer surprises(like drive unable to power on), you might want to take the second model(WUH721414ALE6L1).
dreamliner77
If you're gonna rag on the drives, at least get your info right. Hitachi's were never DeathStars. You're thinking of the old IBM DeskStars which were, specifically, 75GB drives. In the wake of that disaster, IBM sold their disk business off to Hitachi, which never experienced the exploding platter issue that the "deathstars" were notorious for. Regardless, these aren't even Deskstar drives, they are enterprise grade Ultrastar drives. And in addition, that was over 20 years ago, get over it.
MWink
The Power Disable feature isn't the only difference. The WUH721414ALE6L1 is also a Self-Encrypting Drive (SED), not that most people will care.



I can't say for certain but I don't think many USB docks supply 3.3V, so it's unlikely to be a problem. I'd be more concerned about whether an adapter of that age will support this drive. I've seen some SATA-USB bridges that don't play well with these big drives.



I'm only half joking when I say, if you don't know the answers to these questions, you shouldn't be fooling with RAID and if you do know the answers, you'll know better than to mess with it. My more serious answer is, RAID isn't something that should be undertaken lightly. There can be serious drawbacks that are not always obvious. You should do some serious research before messing with it.



The E6L1.



This has been answered multiple times already.

WUH721414ALE6L1 - Self-Encrypting Drive and does NOT have the Power Disable feature (thus more likely to be compatible).

WUH721414ALE604 - Base model (no encryption) and DOES have the Power Disable feature.

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Solis
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Quote from Lanmanna :
I don't even know what I'd do with so room for activities. What's everyone using it for?
Nothing the FBI need to know about.
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jenesuispasbava
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Quote from wlandy :
The second model(WUH721414ALE6L1) is the one without the feature of power disable(3rd pin in SATA). In some motherboard and external enclosure, the drive might not start due to this. The fix is quick but if you prefer fewer surprises like drive unable to power on, you might take this model vs the first one.
Soooo, is the E604 or E6L1 more likely to work with more motherboards / power supplies?
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dezahla
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damn, didnt realize thats the pricepoint were at on spun rust. Same site also has the 14TB SAS Deskstar NEW for ~$130
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Quote from elefante72 :
With SPD you 100% ABSOLUTELY want manufacturer recertified because they are brought back to original OEM conditions and are SEALED by WD in this case.
"Original OEM conditions" would be brand new. To my knowledge there is still no way to economically truly refurbish a hard drive. That means you're still running the original platters, the original motor, the original heads and the original bearings (not to mention the other parts that are less prone to failure). About all the manufacturer can do is clean them up, test them, zero out all the SMART data, then seal them in mylar. They might be a good deal, but let's be honest here: as datacenter drives, they've probably had at least three years of continuous runtime (Data center drives are rarely spun down). Take that for what it's worth.
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Earthwormjim
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Keep in mind, these are not being refurbished, are not having any components replaced, they are not new drives in any way shape or form. All that is happening is they get tested similarly to how new drives are tested, then all their runtime metrics are reset, which is actually really really bad in my view. You could end up with a drive that has up to 40,000 hours (these came out 5 years ago) run time, but shows 0.
Last edited by Earthwormjim July 24, 2023 at 12:00 PM.
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DontTaxBeer
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I don't even know what I'd do with so room for activities. What's everyone using it for?
text and word files.
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Factory recertified is different than "refurbished".

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Quote from einzelherz :
Is it possible to add another one of these as a blank and then stripe it with my current 14tb drive so that I could have some redundancy? Are there any RAID formats where you can add multiple drives but the total TB is greater than any one drive? e.g. 3x 14tb drives but striped in a way that say, the total available space is more like 20tb instead of 14tb?
RAID 1 is mirroring so data will be written to both drives. If one drive fails you'll still have data on the other drive.

Data can be read from either drive so increased read performance is possible, depending on the read request.

RAID 5 is striping with parity so data is written across all the drives in the array along with parity. If any single drive fails the array will continue to function. The size of the array is the total number of drives in the array minus the capacity of one drive, so your example of 3x 14 TB would be a 28 TB RAID 5 array.

Data is written across multiple drives so write performance is generally improved.
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Parato Optimal
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The ones on Amazon say they're "Renewed". Is that the same as refurbished or recertified?
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swechsler
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Quote from gonepostl :
Factory recertified is different than "refurbished".
In what way? They can still only test, clean, zero and repackage a used drive.
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swechsler
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Quote from Parato Optimal :
The ones on Amazon say they're "Renewed". Is that the same as refurbished or recertified?
Just call them "used" and in 99% of cases, that will be the most accurate.
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Got a 604 version (first link) a few months ago for TV recordings from HD Homerun tuner. Was $130 then (Amazon will add tax at checkout, unlike buying direct from ServerPartDeals). Drive comes with a power adapter cable, so compatibility isn't really an issue (I ended up needing the adapter b/c my PC is so old). Excellent packaging for mailing. Larger capacities might be louder, but this one isn't bad. Can't really hear it in my case even when doing an HD Tune benchmark. Goes at around 250 MB/s. Would recommend for reliable (so far) and quiet bulk storage at a great price.
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I've only bought two drives from them, one is dead in less than a year. Don't put any sensitive data on a refurbished drive, and any warranty is worthless if you are even a little squeamish about handing over failed drives with recoverable data on them. They are going to make you return the drive for "testing", whatever that means, before they honor their warranty. Encrypt it if you are going to anyway.
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Quote from RyosukeFC :
I probably should be more specific. I bought a HGST 4TB hdd few years ago, and most of the basic tools showed close to 0 power on hours on the hdd. However, after doing a quick test with smartmontools, it actually displayed the old power on hours as well as the new power on hours.

My guess is that they only reset the data that is the easiest to access. So, you may be able to figure out more information if you dig deeper.

Obviously, I don't know whether it still work for this particular hdd. If you want to test it out, you can Google how to use smartmontools to test your hdd. Then you can see whether they show you those hidden information.

Edit: This was a post I made long time ago: https://slickdeals.net/e/9142463-4tb-hgst-megascale-dc-4000-b-hms5c4040ale640-coolspin-internal-hard...

You can see from the pic that the hdd actually had 25k hours but then reset to 28 hours
I think they (WD) wised up (to scummier levels) and now clear the full history; on my SPD drives the only tests that show up in the smartmontools smart log are the ones I ran (and started at 0 hours).

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Quote from Earthwormjim :
Keep in mind, these are not being refurbished, are not having any components replaced, they are not new drives in any way shape or form. All that is happening is they get tested similarly to how new drives are tested, then all their runtime metrics are reset, which is actually really really bad in my view. You could end up with a drive that has up to 40,000 hours (these came out 5 years ago) run time, but shows 0.
You happen to have the WD recertification process?
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