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Best Buy via eBay [ebay.com] has
ASUS TUF Gaming F15 Laptop: 15.6" 1080p 144Hz, i7-12700H, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, RTX 4070 (140W) on sale for
$1149.99. Shipping is free.
Best Buy [bestbuy.com] also has
ASUS TUF Gaming F15 Laptop: 15.6" 1080p 144Hz, i7-12700H, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, RTX 4070 (140W) on sale for
$1149.99. Shipping is free.
Additional information from product page:
- Intel i7-12700H
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB (140W)
- 15.6" 1920x1080 IPS 144Hz
- 300-nits,
- 100% sRGB,
- 75.35% Adobe RGB
- G-Sync
- 16GB (2x 8GB) DDR4 3200MHz
- 1TB NVMe SSD
- Backlit Chiclet One-Zone RGB Keyboard
- Weight: 4.85 lbs.
- Ports:
- 1x Thunderbolt 4 [Support DisplayPort]
- 2x USB 3.2 Type A (Gen 1)
- 1x USB 3.2 Type C (Gen 2) [Support DisplayPort / Power Delivery / G-SYNC]
- 1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack
- 1x HDMI 2.1 FRL
- 1x RJ45 LAN port
- Model: FX507ZI-F15.I74070
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Apparently some units ship with a single 16GB. Mine came with double 8GB ram sticks. So I had to purchase double 16GB ram sticks for 32GB RAM.
Also for anyone who might be interested, To be honest the brightness on this laptop is plenty indoors and at night you have to dim it down cause it's too bright.
My rating on this laptop is 9/10 and it's as good as it gets for this price compared to other laptops costing almost double!
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That said, has anyone tried it with a Thunderbolt eGPU? A friend has the ASUS TUF Gaming A17 - which has a Ryzen 7940HS - and while it recognizes the Razer Core X enclosure, it doesn't detect the GPU inside.
I can't tell if it's a Ryzen/Thunderbolt thing, a iGPU/dGPU/eGPU thing, or just something with Asus designs.
Full specs are here [asus.com] in the last column. Also, the teardown I've seen implies a 2nd NVMe SSD slot, but don't quote me on that.
90Wh battery and a beefy CPU/GPU combo make this thing really temping.
That said, has anyone tried it with a Thunderbolt eGPU? A friend has the ASUS TUF Gaming A17 - which has a Ryzen 7940HS - and while it recognizes the Razer Core X enclosure, it doesn't detect the GPU inside.
I can't tell if it's a Ryzen/Thunderbolt thing, a iGPU/dGPU/eGPU thing, or just something with Asus designs.
Full specs are here [asus.com] in the last column. Also, the teardown I've seen implies a 2nd NVMe SSD slot, but don't quote me on that.
90Wh battery and a beefy CPU/GPU combo make this thing really temping.
Bought this same unit a few weeks ago when it went on sale for same price at best buy. I can confirm it has double M.2 slots. I'm using both perfectly.
Apparently some units ship with a single 16GB. Mine came with double 8GB ram sticks. So I had to purchase double 16GB ram sticks for 32GB RAM.
Also for anyone who might be interested, To be honest the brightness on this laptop is plenty indoors and at night you have to dim it down cause it's too bright.
My rating on this laptop is 9/10 and it's as good as it gets for this price compared to other laptops costing almost double!
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- Armory Crate/MyAsus: A lot of control is done via the proprietary Armory Crate software - RGB, fan modes, etc. Not the end of the world, but I'm tired of proprietary gamer software. Ditto for MyAsus, which is the 'vendor software update tool/sanity checker'. It seems no better or worse than MSI Dragon Center or Lenovo's... whatever they call it.
- 12th Gen 'Alder Lake' [wikipedia.org]: The actual differences are not major - 13th Gen 'Raptor Lake' [wikipedia.org] only gets a small performance uplift from having a bit more L2/L3 cache and faster DDR5 memory, and a tiny bit more power efficiency. The chipset gets a few more PCI-E lanes and USB connections, but again, not major. The only TINY concern in my head is that 12th gen will go 'End Of Servicing' slightly sooner; as a point of comparison, 6th gen was introduced in 2015 and went EOS Sept. 2022. 12th gen was introduced Nov. 2021 and 13th gen Oct. 2022, so it might lose security patch support sooner.
- RAM: On top of using DDR4 RAM, the max RAM is listed as 32GB. I've seen reports that it might be able to handle 64GB, and Intel ARK lists that the CPU can handle 64GB [intel.com], but I wouldn't absolutely count on it. Only matters if you are doing certain RAM-intensive tasks, like VMs.
- Windows 11: You are stuck with Windows 11. Do not try to downgrade a 12th/13th gen Intel CPU to Windows 10, as Win10 can't tell the difference between the P-cores and E-cores. If you do, some apps might get shunted to the much slower E-cores when P-cores are available, and I would assume battery life would suffer as well.
- VRAM: The 4070 Laptop Edition [notebookcheck.net] is pretty fast - while not as fast as a desktop 4070, the only current mobile GPUs that can beat it are a 4080 or 4090. Howver, the 4070 only has 8GB VRAM. As a result, you may have some issues on new/poorly optimized games. This is still far better than most low-to-mid-range gaming laptops, and any reasonably optimized game should work for years to come.
It's reaching. I'm sure there are other personal preference things - at 25mm it's not the very thinnest gaming laptop, some people may want a bigger or smaller screen - but by and large, it checks every box for me.I'm very close to pulling the trigger on it - I was very excited about the Framework 16, but looking at the actual performance comparison, it's hard to spend over 2x as much on a slower laptop.
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