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frontpagechunmanc123 posted Aug 07, 2023 04:53 AM

U.S. Treasury: Short Term Treasury Bills (4-Week-52-Week Maturity) Up to

5.50% Interest

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Note: Rates are subject to change daily; rates are the daily secondary market quotations on the most recently auctioned Treasury Bills for each maturity tranche (4-week, 8-week, 13-week, 17-week, 26-week, and 52-week) for which Treasury currently issues new bills. Up to Date Rates can be found here (scroll to bottom of list)

U.S. Government Treasury is offering Up to 5.499% Coupon Rate (Interest Rate) on Short Term Treasury Bills which can be Purchased for a Duration of 4-Weeks-52 Weeks Maturity.

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Note, if interested, you may choose to purchase Treasury Bills through your preferred Brokerage Firm

Example Current Rates (8/9/23): (Coupon Rates [Interest Rates] change daily):
  • 13-Week Maturity: 5.451%
  • 26-Week Maturity: 5.499%
  • 52-Week Maturity: 5.351%

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  • About this Offer:
    • Interest paid: When the bill matures
    • Minimum purchase : $100
    • In increments of: $100
    • Maximum purchase: $10 million (non-competitive bid)
    • Auction frequency:
      • Every four weeks for 52-week bills
      • Weekly for 4, 8, 13, 17, 26-week bills
      • No regular schedule for Cash Management Bills
      • See the Auction calendar for specific date
      • More Info
    • Taxes: Federal tax due on interest earned. No state or local taxes
  • Refer to forum thread for discussion from the community regarding this offer. -slickdewmaster

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Note: Rates are subject to change daily; rates are the daily secondary market quotations on the most recently auctioned Treasury Bills for each maturity tranche (4-week, 8-week, 13-week, 17-week, 26-week, and 52-week) for which Treasury currently issues new bills. Up to Date Rates can be found here (scroll to bottom of list)

U.S. Government Treasury is offering Up to 5.499% Coupon Rate (Interest Rate) on Short Term Treasury Bills which can be Purchased for a Duration of 4-Weeks-52 Weeks Maturity.

Thanks community member chunmanc123 for sharing this deal

Note, if interested, you may choose to purchase Treasury Bills through your preferred Brokerage Firm

Example Current Rates (8/9/23): (Coupon Rates [Interest Rates] change daily):
  • 13-Week Maturity: 5.451%
  • 26-Week Maturity: 5.499%
  • 52-Week Maturity: 5.351%

Editor's Notes

Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this Offer:
    • Interest paid: When the bill matures
    • Minimum purchase : $100
    • In increments of: $100
    • Maximum purchase: $10 million (non-competitive bid)
    • Auction frequency:
      • Every four weeks for 52-week bills
      • Weekly for 4, 8, 13, 17, 26-week bills
      • No regular schedule for Cash Management Bills
      • See the Auction calendar for specific date
      • More Info
    • Taxes: Federal tax due on interest earned. No state or local taxes
  • Refer to forum thread for discussion from the community regarding this offer. -slickdewmaster

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OliveFlag247
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To clarify...

Treasury BILLS are currently paying over 5% for various maturity lengths under 1 year. These can be bought through most brokerages even without a TreasuryDirect account.

Treasury BONDS are paying 4% or less and have 20 or 30 year terms.
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Have learned so much on this site so am trying to return the favor with what I've learned that I don't see anyone else talking about.

The 4 week bill ordering opens tomorrow 8/8, the deadline to buy it is sometime Thursday 8/10 morning depending on where you are buying it and it settles on 8/15.

On TD Ameritrade, they take your money on the 10th (take it out of the money you can trade with when you hit purchase which can be as early as the 8th) and buy the bill on the 15th during time which you earn no interest. Thus the reason that I stopped buying 4 and 8 week bills at auction. Secondary markets settle the next day so often a better deal. Treasury direct does not take the money from your bank account till the day it settles and Vanguard keeps it in the settlement fund earning interest till the day it settles as well. Not sure about the other brokerage houses. Also, not sure if you rollover the t-bills how the time between redemption and the next auction works as far as any interest you are losing as that is often a week of interest as well.

FYI, if you do the math, 4 weeks for $10,000 usually gets you about $40 in interest for letting them hold your money for 5 weeks.

The Monday auctions for 3 months and six months settle on Thursday so much less time to hold your money for nothing and less redemption downtime.

The money market funds often have repurchase agreements that are taxed at the state and local level but obviously more liquid. Am looking into the ETFs now.

Good luck to everyone!
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I'd recommend searching for diamondnestegg on youtube. She has a bunch of very useful videos on how to purchase and where explaining step by step on how to do it.

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Why use Treasury Direct?

1. Select date of investment, time frame, and amount. Very intuitive.
2. Investment period can be as short as one month. Fidelity does not support one month investment.
3. Investment amount can be as small as $100. Fidelity requires $1000 minimum.
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DogAndPonyAug 08, 2023 12:52 AM
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Quote from mosd88 :
Treasury direct is very easy to navigate and purchase. With Fidelity I'm never sure what I'm purchasing. If I enter a CUSIP, it has different dates than I am expecting. I'm intending to do some index fund investing, so I'll stick with Fidelity for that, but all of my treasury stuff is through treasury direct. I simply don't understand how somebody could find it more complicated or less easy than the Fidelity website, but that's just me.
I don't get too deep into the t bills. I have my auto roll set up on 13 week bills, with a ladder approach with a t bill maturing every 4 weeks or so.

The issue with treasury direct is that 1. It's only treasuries so I can't sell and buy an index fund in the same day, for example, and 2. On td you have to hold until maturity.
If I need to sell a t bill tomorrow on fidelity but it doesn't mature until Sept I can do that. On treasury direct I cannot. I must hold until maturity.
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mbickelAug 08, 2023 12:55 AM
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Quote from dealbuster9999 :
just got a cd with a 5.3 percent interest...the only advantage I see is the state tax.
Well if you lived in CA it is a nice little perk.
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xmedAug 08, 2023 12:55 AM
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Quote from Optm :
Been using Treasury Direct for over 20 years. Never a problem.

Same here. Flawless site, clunky but not complicated. I buy or roll an average of $15k each week in T Bills between 4 weeks and 6 months duration. Never a single problem in that time.



If you don't reinvest the principle the face value comes back like clockwork to the funding source (like a checking acct) of your choice by 630am on the maturity date. Very convenient if you want the cash back.
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Here's the regular auction schedule, which can be affected by bank/Federal holidays:

Weekly auctions:
4, 8 week: Announced Tuesday, Auctioned Thursday, settles Tuesday.
17 week: Announced Tuesday, Auctioned Wednesday, settles Tuesday.
13, 26 week: Announced Thursday, Auctioned Monday, settles Thursday.

A 42-Day (6-Week) Cash Management bill is expected to be auctioned weekly at least through the end of the year. It is only available at brokerages. Announced Thursday, Auctioned Tuesday, settles Thursday.

There's also a 52 week bill every 4 weeks. Announced every fourth Thursday, Auctioned Tuesday, settles Thursday.

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TreasuryDirect : You can schedule purchases of regular weekly bills around eight weeks in advance, and buy in multiples of $100 face value. It can be difficult to sell before maturity since you'd need to transfer to a brokerage in multiples of $1000.

Brokerages: You usually have between one and three business days to put in the order between announcement and auction in multiples of $1000 face value. You may also be able to buy and sell on the secondary market, but the secondary market prices can vary between brokerages. There's been somewhat worse liquidity in the secondary market over the past several weeks at some brokerages.
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ArmchairQBAug 08, 2023 01:35 AM
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Quote from Optm :
Been using Treasury Direct for over 20 years. Never a problem.
Is the site still the sane one?
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nojmpleaseAug 08, 2023 02:21 AM
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Can I roll an existing I-bond into one of these on TreasuryDirect without incurring the withdrawal penalty (losing 3 months interest)?
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DealsAndNoDealsAug 08, 2023 02:28 AM
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Quote from 02nz :
You can easily find the 30-day SEC yield for any fund. It's about 5.3% for SGOV, 5.1% for BIL.
Curious. If you own these EFT after certain periods, are the dividends "qualified dividend"? If so, they are better than buying govt securities directly. "qualified dividend" has lower tax rate.
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Quote from DealsAndNoDeals :
Curious. If you own these EFT after certain periods, are the dividends "qualified dividend"? If so, they are better than buying govt securities directly. "qualified dividend" has lower tax rate.
No. These dividends are really interest, so they are always treated as such, i.e. taxed as ordinary income.
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mojohnnybravoAug 08, 2023 02:37 AM
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just exited from an ibond purchased May of 2022. might buy into these.
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monkeybagelsAug 08, 2023 02:45 AM
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Quote from oonchie :
I'd recommend searching for diamondnestegg on youtube. She has a bunch of very useful videos on how to purchase and where explaining step by step on how to do it.
she's the best. really informative and consistently excellent content.
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she's the best. really informative and consistently excellent content.
Very informative. The dude who I learned how to buy T-Bills from TD on youtube was Adam Taggart. Very good explanations and step by step screen shots from start to finish. It was the closest thing that I could find that was at "for dummies" rookie level which is what worked for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svhJEWbOoPY
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