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Epson Home Cinema 5050UB 4K PRO-UHD Projector (Refurbished)

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Epson has Epson Home Cinema 5050UB 4K PRO-UHD Projector (Refurbished, V11H930020-N) on sale for $2,119.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks community member wenovias for sharing this deal
  • Please Note: Epson does not accept returns on refurbished items except if product arrives defective. Refer to the product page for additional details.
Key Features:
  • Advanced 3-Chip Design and HDR10
  • 4K PRO-UHD1 Projection Technology
  • Digital Imaging Processor
  • Pixel-Shift Processor
Specs:
  • Projection System: Epson 3LCD, 3-chip optical engine
  • Projection Method: Front / Rear / Ceiling mount
  • Driving Method: Poly-silicon TFT Active Matrix, 0.74"-wide panel
  • Color Brightness - Color Light Output: 2600 lumens2
  • White Brightness - White Light Output: 2600 lumens2
  • Aspect Ratio: 16:9 widescreen (4:3 resize,16:10 resize) Compatible with 4:3 with Normal, Full or Zoom Modes
  • Resolution: 4K Enhancement1 (1920 x 1080 x 2)
  • Maximum Resolution: 4096 x 2160
  • Supported Resolution: 3840 x 2160, Full HD 1080p/i, HD 720p, 576p/i, 480p/i
  • Lamp Type: 250 W UHE
  • Lamp Life: Up to 5,000 hours (ECO Mode); up to 4,000 hours (Medium Mode); up to 3,500 hours (High Mode)7
  • Size - projected distance: 50" – 300" (Zoom: Wide and Zoom: Tele)
  • Keystone Correction: Vertical: ±30 degrees (Manual)
  • Contrast Ratio: Up to 1,000,000:1, Auto Iris on
  • White Balance: 8-point adjustment
  • Color Processing: Full 10-bit (partial 12-bit)
  • Color Reproduction: Full-color (up to 1.07 billion colors)

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Written by SaltyOne | Staff

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Written by crushyslushy
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Epson has Epson Home Cinema 5050UB 4K PRO-UHD Projector (Refurbished, V11H930020-N) on sale for $2,119.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks community member wenovias for sharing this deal
  • Please Note: Epson does not accept returns on refurbished items except if product arrives defective. Refer to the product page for additional details.
Key Features:
  • Advanced 3-Chip Design and HDR10
  • 4K PRO-UHD1 Projection Technology
  • Digital Imaging Processor
  • Pixel-Shift Processor
Specs:
  • Projection System: Epson 3LCD, 3-chip optical engine
  • Projection Method: Front / Rear / Ceiling mount
  • Driving Method: Poly-silicon TFT Active Matrix, 0.74"-wide panel
  • Color Brightness - Color Light Output: 2600 lumens2
  • White Brightness - White Light Output: 2600 lumens2
  • Aspect Ratio: 16:9 widescreen (4:3 resize,16:10 resize) Compatible with 4:3 with Normal, Full or Zoom Modes
  • Resolution: 4K Enhancement1 (1920 x 1080 x 2)
  • Maximum Resolution: 4096 x 2160
  • Supported Resolution: 3840 x 2160, Full HD 1080p/i, HD 720p, 576p/i, 480p/i
  • Lamp Type: 250 W UHE
  • Lamp Life: Up to 5,000 hours (ECO Mode); up to 4,000 hours (Medium Mode); up to 3,500 hours (High Mode)7
  • Size - projected distance: 50" – 300" (Zoom: Wide and Zoom: Tele)
  • Keystone Correction: Vertical: ±30 degrees (Manual)
  • Contrast Ratio: Up to 1,000,000:1, Auto Iris on
  • White Balance: 8-point adjustment
  • Color Processing: Full 10-bit (partial 12-bit)
  • Color Reproduction: Full-color (up to 1.07 billion colors)

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff

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Written by crushyslushy

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I've owned the 5050UB, the 11000, and the 12000. I can only own LCD projectors as I'm very sensitive to "rainbows".

Overall a 5050UB within spitting distance of $2000 (in post covid inflationary pricing times) is a massive bang for the buck and by far the best value. Yes this projector is long in the tooth but it was so far ahead when it came out that it's still a great choice today.

The 11000 is slightly sharper but the black levels are a deal breaker. The 12000 has the improved sharpness and the good blacks but is not worth 2x the cost. The 5050 will still blow you away if you've never owned a premium (but not elite) level projector before.

Just be warned all of them are a beast size-wise.
Just a few things about this projector:

- It has a manual HDR tone map slider - HDR typically is quite dark on projectors and this helps alleviate this. The HDR tone map slider is one thing that differentiates this from epson 5040
- this projector will handle 18 gbps HDMI 2.0 for 4K 60. Epson 5040 was only 10.2 gbps interface so could only do 4k24 HDR and 4k60 with 4:2:0 chroma
- Epson projectors have advanced motorized zoom lenses with a lot of motorized frame adjust and lens memory. This is important if you have a 2.35:1 screen like I do. I press a button and the image enlarges to fit my 2.35:1 screen so I see movies like they were intended. The epson projectors are by FAR the least expensive projectors with an advanced motorized lens system like this. most cheap projectors you need to get on your ladder and adjust manually
- contrast is important for perception of sharpness. The cheap DLPs that can produce true 4k images have worse contrast ratios so many of the reviews state that these higher contrast epsons appear sharper to the eye than something like a BenQ ht3550 or ht3560
- this projector still supports 3D. LS11000 / LS12000 do not. The JVC NP5 does but that is $6k

just a few ramblings for those interested who do not want to read the 20 page reviews . . .
In before the "it's not true 4k" comments.

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bonbon525
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I myself am eyeing for a ust. Isn't a ust better because it has alr? Also the light source is only a feet away instead of across the room?
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Quote from boosterjm :
Can you provide example of that LED ?
these also include very positive reviews / first impressions of these nice LED projectors. And also, lasers on the expensive side, but they can give you a large picture, can set the projector in front of the screen, short throw distance impossible with technolgies I blelieve.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-c...lsrc=aw.ds

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-c...lsrc=aw.ds


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-p...lsrc=aw.ds
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inspir3d
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Quote from hardrock121 :
Is this worth it or go for ls11000 the updated version. Given it's a grand more.
Get this.

I have this, gave up an nx5 for it due to my larger screen(180"). Friend has ls11000 and my pre- calibrated 5050 blew it away, post cal... It's night and day
Last edited by inspir3d August 19, 2023 at 05:37 AM.
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Quote from TealNest6799 :
I'll never buy from Epson after a repair experience with them.

Sony is legit and stands by their products.
Thats about as fake news as you can get. Check avs ... The number of ex Sony people due to warranty issues gets longer hourly lol. Excluding the >$15k models obviously. Those should just be under a different brand.

JVCs high end is where folks sit these days.
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inspir3d
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Quote from redpoint5 :
Yeesh, what makes this $1,500 better than a BenQ TK800?

I expect freakin lasers at this price point.
Did you expect to win Powerball too?

A good laser projector sub $5k is still about 5 years out... Even the mfg say that the tech has a long way to go...
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BraveDime9640
Aug 19, 2023
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Sorry if it was mentioned here already but how's the gaming? Does this thing 120hz?
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webdoctors
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Quote from pixelpusher15 :
No, Sony doesn't. They have a long history of panel degradation that leads to significantly reduced contrast, color gamut, and brightness. They have routinely denied this to owners while also saying "it's fixed in the new generation". Here's respected German dealer with their data on the matter.
http://cine4home.de/sony-sxrd-wei...ugeraeten/ [cine4home.de]

The new XW series is still a bit too young to see if it suffers the same issue but there's been no negative reports so far.

Epson refurbs on the other hand aren't shining examples of workmanship. I went through 4 (including 2 new ones) before the 5th one they sent me was a good product (pj order: blue streaking, poor focus uniformity, dust blob (new), poor focus uniformity (new), good unit (received with hand signed letter of QC pass). Each one was express replaced but it took 6 months. I know another person that has a similar experience with a 5040.

Is it worth the risk or time commitment? Buyers choice. It's hands down the best projector under 4k in my opinion (I write projector reviews FWIW) so at $2100 it's a huge bargain. Just know what you may be getting into.
Since you're familiar with PJs, can you comment on HDR? I have an Epson 4010 and I'm extremely happy with the PQ except for HDR material. Is it just a limitation of the technology, or is it something the 5050UB could do?

With more HDR and DV material, wondering if its still worthwhile to still be investing in PJs.

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Quote from Daekwan :
Watching my 5030UB on a 135" screen right now which is about to celebrate its 10 year anniversary in November. Every time I think about upgrading to a 4K projector.. I still cant get over just how good this thing still looks.

I can only imagine what the 5050UB or LS12000 looks like. That said at $2,000 it's extremely tempting. Between this and the Denon 3800 AVR deals.. it might be time to go ahead and upgrade from my 1080p 7.2 surround setup.. to a 4K 7.2.2 setup with Atmos.
Exact same experience. The 5030 is so rock solid. I'd love to try 5050.
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omair
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Is this better than the optoma uhz50
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kherbinoskie
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Quote from randomchaos :
Do you have a link to OEM lamps for $100?
Go to amazon and do your part. It's not that difficult.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=ELPLP8..._sb_noss_1

https://www.amazon.com/Huaute-V13...B08634QJ79
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Quote from beware :
Not to detail the conversation, has anyone resold an older projector? If so, where? I worry about shipping on eBay. I have a 5040 I used for about a year and haven't used in 3 due to a relocation for work.
I bought a used projector on eBay. Have no problems with it, they just boxed it up really well when they sent it to me. Worked fine.
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I have an old optima HD 20. I do not have a fully light controlled room, although I typically watch at night. The walls are rather dark, but the ceiling is white and the floor is whitish too. I assume this projector would be a huge upgrade over what I have as the HD 20 really struggles with black levels making some scenes in movies almost unwatchable. My screen is a DIY painted screen, 120 inches...
Last edited by slickslider August 19, 2023 at 11:37 AM.
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Quote from helpfulracoon :
Have 5040, very happy with it.

But yeah it's gigantic.
the 5040 is a great bang for your buck budget projector. size is about the same as most other projectors.

i keep one on hand for doing outdoor movie night.
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Quote from kherbinoskie :
You can get an OEM lamp for less than a $100. Installation is probably 5 mins or less.

We had an old Epson 3500 and used it as regular TV. It took 6-7 years for us to reach 4000 hrs.
still rocking the 3500 as our primary TV. Replaced the bulb after 4 or so years. Was surprised how much brighter the new bulb was was, kept the old as a spare in case it ever burned out. I think for me at least this needs to hit $1500 before upgrading, or the 3500 needs to die.

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Quote from rypajo :
still rocking the 3500 as our primary TV. Replaced the bulb after 4 or so years. Was surprised how much brighter the new bulb was was, kept the old as a spare in case it ever burned out. I think for me at least this needs to hit $1500 before upgrading, or the 3500 needs to die.
That's so true. It was giving me warning for a year after it reached 3500 hrs then I only changed it at 4000 hrs then difference of brightness of the new bulb made the projector like new again. I was already ready to buy a new one but I am postponing that plan for now until there's an irresistible deal. Hopefully on black Friday. I just can't make myself to buy something north of $2000 when I only got the Epson 3500 for $800 7 yrs ago and surprisingly, the picture quality is still amazing.

I will still get Epson brand and 3LCD technology if possible. It seems better than DLP ones. Maybe next time, I hope I get a laser one.

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