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forum threaddoubletoaster posted Aug 30, 2023 06:02 AM
forum threaddoubletoaster posted Aug 30, 2023 06:02 AM

Used/Customer Returns Creality Ender 3 3D Printer $59

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These are customer returns for parts or tinkering. So not necessarily running machines unless you fix a few things. Not something to buy as your first 3D printer.
However, they are inexpensive at $59 with free shipping, especially if you can't pick up a $99 Ender 3 V2 from MicroCenter nearby.
I would mainly see this as a base for a project where you want to convert the printer to something else, like one of those Ender 3 belt printer conversions, etc. Or just use it for parts.
The $69 Ender 3 Pro could also be converted to a Voron Switchwire for example.
There are also some refurbished [creality3d.store] machines with a 10% discount, which are checked and should work out of the box.

Ender 3 specs:
  • 220 x 220 x 250 mm print volume
  • Bowden extruder
  • Prints PLA, PETG, ABS, TPU
  • 0.4mm Nozzle Diameter
  • Printing precision 0.1mm
  • Movement speed up to 180mm/s
  • Heated print bed
  • 270W Power Supply

https://www.creality3d.store/prod...3787623477
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These are customer returns for parts or tinkering. So not necessarily running machines unless you fix a few things. Not something to buy as your first 3D printer.
However, they are inexpensive at $59 with free shipping, especially if you can't pick up a $99 Ender 3 V2 from MicroCenter nearby.
I would mainly see this as a base for a project where you want to convert the printer to something else, like one of those Ender 3 belt printer conversions, etc. Or just use it for parts.
The $69 Ender 3 Pro could also be converted to a Voron Switchwire for example.
There are also some refurbished [creality3d.store] machines with a 10% discount, which are checked and should work out of the box.

Ender 3 specs:
  • 220 x 220 x 250 mm print volume
  • Bowden extruder
  • Prints PLA, PETG, ABS, TPU
  • 0.4mm Nozzle Diameter
  • Printing precision 0.1mm
  • Movement speed up to 180mm/s
  • Heated print bed
  • 270W Power Supply

https://www.creality3d.store/prod...3787623477

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Sep 03, 2023 04:03 AM
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VaultTecSep 03, 2023 04:03 AM
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Quote from stevesaves :
Not factoring in the refurbished stuff, is this is a good beginner unit to get into the hobby? Wondering if it's worth the ~3hr trip to Dallas/Houston to pick up a new unit.
Ender 3's are as good as any to get into the hobby. All of the lower cost 3d printers are made from the same basic parts regardless of the manufacturer.
Sep 03, 2023 04:24 AM
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460cidpowerSep 03, 2023 04:24 AM
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Quote from BlueRoom4419 :
3D printers are all off the shelf components combined into a kit.
Stepper motors
wires
controller board
power supply
2040 aluminum extrusion
heated bed
extruder
All of the parts in these things are orderable. It would be blind bad luck if you bought 2 and both had the same parts missing or broken. That being said you probably would be better off just getting a refurb unless you just enjoy the tinkering part.
Operator error is probably the main reason for these being returned, there not just a plug in and play item ( they can be) but more often than not you will need to spend some time adjusting belt tension, maybe the filiment you ordered needs a higher or lower temperature to print well, maybe one of the wheels was put on just a bit too tight and causes some friction that makes all the prints turn out bad. The guys that just watch a Youtube video of a shill saying how great it prints out of the box and the customers find out they aren't quite that user friendly yet. Their printer doesn't print perfect out of the box so they think it is broken and return it. Or they do a couple prints and the nozzle clogs and they don't know how to fix it. Or even more likely a print sticks badly to the heated bed and they destroy the bed taking it off ( been there done that) but if that happens on your first print people might just decide to return it in leu of buying replacement parts and spending the time to fix it especially with Amazons free return policies.
So the short answer (or not) is probably you could easily buy 2 and build a complete one, now how much time it takes you to take the thing apart and put it back together 7 times to figure out that stepper motor 3 is skipping every 3rd spin or is it a bad wheen or loose pully causing the bad prints is a different story! If fixing things is a fun project for you then it may be a a good project for you to get into.
I've already got a Creality CR10V3, I was thinking of a second machine for tinkering. I don't know how Ender 3 V2 compares. If I could make one good one and have some spare parts from the second one, all the better. I'm also curious about the whole "The $69 Ender 3 Pro could also be converted to a Voron Switchwire for example." I don't know the big benefits of the Voron vs Ender.
Last edited by 460cidpower September 2, 2023 at 09:27 PM.
Sep 03, 2023 06:01 AM
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LaraWaterZSep 03, 2023 06:01 AM
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I have this Ender 3 3D Printer and bought it new. If I could go back in time... I wouldn't buy it again.
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Sep 03, 2023 06:29 AM
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IDontNeedItX3Sep 03, 2023 06:29 AM
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Quote from stevesaves :
Not factoring in the refurbished stuff, is this is a good beginner unit to get into the hobby? Wondering if it's worth the ~3hr trip to Dallas/Houston to pick up a new unit.
If you are a beginner JUST getting into the hobby purchasing this deal might make you hate this hobby and never get interested in it fully. I have been into this hobby for about 5 years now and can say that It took me a good amount of small tweaks and a lot of fine tuning and learning on the fly to get over my frustrations when I first got into 3d printing.
I would feel pretty confident in this deal now after experiencing alot of troubleshooting. If you're just going into it, i recommend an ended 3 v2 or s1 when it goes on sale. I have the v2 and my buddy has an s1 and they have been awesome printers to learn and get into it with.
Sep 03, 2023 08:51 AM
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dagaduSep 03, 2023 08:51 AM
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Lets TD to bottom so mod doesn't bring this to FP. No return/refund policy for 40% off sale price is not a deal. You can always get brand new one for $100 WITH return policy.

Most hobby you had is naturally because of love at first sight. If you want to pickup this as a hobby for beginners, then I can bet you will hate this at the first sight. You WILL need to assemble it, tweak it, level it, and modify it so it may works accordingly.

This thread shouldn't be here at all, despite for parts, it is a huge gambling.
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Sep 03, 2023 11:30 AM
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mitsuredSep 03, 2023 11:30 AM
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Quote from m4ha7m4 :
The refurbished units that are available are only $10-20 more and carry a warranty.

The refurbished Z1-10W 10W Laser Engraver for $152 seems like a solid deal for a powerful entry level laser engraver. A new Z1-10W is $300ish. Its usually $200 just to upgrade to a 10W head upgrade (no frame/motors).
I'm showing $199 for the10w?
https://www.creality3d.store/prod...8604198965
Last edited by mitsured September 3, 2023 at 04:35 AM.
Sep 03, 2023 11:52 AM
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GannManSep 03, 2023 11:52 AM
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These are most likely returns that somebody bought a printer and blew up a part so they switched it off a new one and returned it

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Sep 03, 2023 11:58 AM
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GannManSep 03, 2023 11:58 AM
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Quote from DigitalHoarder :
Speaking from experience, these are unusable and guaranteed to break in multiple ways within the first week (that's when they're NEW!). When you get this, you might as well skip a few days of infuriating frustration and just throw it straight in the trash!
My ender 6 blew up before it's first print. I've rebuilt it to be bigger and better now though. Got rid of the garbage crealty parts completely.
Sep 03, 2023 12:56 PM
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VaultTecSep 03, 2023 12:56 PM
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Quote from 460cidpower :
I've already got a Creality CR10V3, I was thinking of a second machine for tinkering. I don't know how Ender 3 V2 compares. If I could make one good one and have some spare parts from the second one, all the better. I'm also curious about the whole "The $69 Ender 3 Pro could also be converted to a Voron Switchwire for example." I don't know the big benefits of the Voron vs Ender.
They compare exactly the same but smaller, the Ender 3 won't have a direct drive extruder so wont print flexible filiment well ( but this can be swapped out) but with the remote extruder it will print PLA perfectly fine.
Vorons are just an open source 3D printer that people order parts and build from scratch usually. They print much faster than normal off the shelf 3D printers and they run off of a Klipper pc. You can get Klipper for Creality 3D printers to get them to print faster but I haven't gone down this route so I can't speak to it. I thought about it in the past but it just looked like to run a Voron or Klipper based 3D printer you will be adding a lot of adjusting and tweaking to a system that already needs a lot of tweaking and adjustment. ( base Creality printers don't need more tweaking than other 3D printers just way more than any other typical consumer products)
again if tweaking and adjusting and making your 3D printer a "sports car" version is something that would be a fun hobby then go for it. For me I prefer more reliability and less tweaking and just the printer to make what I wanted on the first or 2nd try. If it takes over night to print something so be it. Speed isn't important for me as it is just for personal use not for a printing business.
Sep 03, 2023 01:03 PM
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VaultTecSep 03, 2023 01:03 PM
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Quote from IDontNeedItX3 :
If you are a beginner JUST getting into the hobby purchasing this deal might make you hate this hobby and never get interested in it fully. I have been into this hobby for about 5 years now and can say that It took me a good amount of small tweaks and a lot of fine tuning and learning on the fly to get over my frustrations when I first got into 3d printing.
I would feel pretty confident in this deal now after experiencing alot of troubleshooting. If you're just going into it, i recommend an ended 3 v2 or s1 when it goes on sale. I have the v2 and my buddy has an s1 and they have been awesome printers to learn and get into it with.
my frst 3D printer was a box of parts and an instruction manual. An Anet A3 and before that people were just ordering parts from a parts list and hand making them. Some people are more mechanical and enjoy working on things, some people make their own meals, some eat microwave pizza. If you are a microwave pizza sort of person 3D printing probably isn't for you.


Check out this assembly video, 3D printers have come a long way and are much much easier to assemble and get working than in the past.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n...QI&t=1993s
Sep 03, 2023 05:50 PM
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LABeavSep 03, 2023 05:50 PM
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I'm done with enders, the other machines I have bought have far fewer issues and rebuilds needed, I'm sick of fixing my stupid enders.
Sep 03, 2023 06:52 PM
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JMBauer74Sep 03, 2023 06:52 PM
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This isn't inexpensive. Local warehouse sells this stuff for $20.
Sep 03, 2023 08:01 PM
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SplendidClass2145Sep 03, 2023 08:01 PM
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Quote from JMBauer74 :
This isn't inexpensive. Local warehouse sells this stuff for $20.
Where at? If I could pick one up for that cheap I'd love to.
Sep 03, 2023 08:49 PM
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JMBauer74Sep 03, 2023 08:49 PM
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Quote from JMBauer74 :
This isn't inexpensive. Local warehouse sells this stuff for $20.
I'm in North Carolina. They sell these off return pallets. If you live in the United States near any Amazon distribution center, you should have no problem getting something like this that was returned for cheap. Here they bring in new pallets once a week. Day 1 everything is sold for $20, Day 2 $10, Day 3, $5, Day 4 $1. If you're mechanically inclined and able to repair things, you'll do well. A lot of the returns just have minor issues or the customer may have just had trouble operating the item.

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Sep 03, 2023 11:46 PM
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m4ha7m4Sep 03, 2023 11:46 PM
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Quote from mitsured :
I'm showing $199 for the10w?
https://www.creality3d.store/prod...8604198965
I used this link: https://www.creality3d.store/prod...9205149749

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