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Yale Assure Lock 2 Deadbolt Keypad Lock w/ Z-Wave (Black Suede)

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Amazon has Yale Assure Lock 2 Deadbolt Keypad Lock w/ Z-Wave (Black Suede, ‎YRD410-ZW2-BSP) on sale for $139.99. Shipping is free.

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  • Lock and unlock your door from anywhere by adding the lock to a compatible Z-Wave smart home or alarm system and app (i.e. Samsung SmartThings, Ring Alarm, Wink, ADT, Alarm.com, Qolsys, Honeywell etc.). Requires compatible hub and app
  • Key-free access, your way: Everyone that needs access can choose their own way to unlock, whether that's the keypad, Auto-Unlock or the Yale Access app on your smartphone or Apple Watch. This product will not operate outside of the U.S and Canada.
  • Let Yale Auto-Unlock: For those times when your hands are full, Yale can get the door. With optional Auto-Unlock, you won't need to touch the lock, or your phone.
  • Expecting company? Share unlimited codes with family, friends, and service people for simple, trackable access to your home, using the Yale Access App, so you'll never hide a key again.
  • Don't worry, it's locked: Never wonder if you remembered to lock the door. Yale can be set to Auto-Lock once DoorSense detects that the door has closed.

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Amazon has Yale Assure Lock 2 Deadbolt Keypad Lock w/ Z-Wave (Black Suede, ‎YRD410-ZW2-BSP) on sale for $139.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member MerryHerring4704 for finding this deal.

Note, product must be sold/shipped by Amazon

About this Item:
  • Lock and unlock your door from anywhere by adding the lock to a compatible Z-Wave smart home or alarm system and app (i.e. Samsung SmartThings, Ring Alarm, Wink, ADT, Alarm.com, Qolsys, Honeywell etc.). Requires compatible hub and app
  • Key-free access, your way: Everyone that needs access can choose their own way to unlock, whether that's the keypad, Auto-Unlock or the Yale Access app on your smartphone or Apple Watch. This product will not operate outside of the U.S and Canada.
  • Let Yale Auto-Unlock: For those times when your hands are full, Yale can get the door. With optional Auto-Unlock, you won't need to touch the lock, or your phone.
  • Expecting company? Share unlimited codes with family, friends, and service people for simple, trackable access to your home, using the Yale Access App, so you'll never hide a key again.
  • Don't worry, it's locked: Never wonder if you remembered to lock the door. Yale can be set to Auto-Lock once DoorSense detects that the door has closed.

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  • About this product:
    • This has a 4.2 out of 5 star overall rating on Amazon based on 11 reviews.
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airdrummingfool
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FYI this has a 500 series Z-Wave module in it (ZW2 in the model number).

The 700 series Z-Wave modules (ZW3) aren't fully or officially compatible with the Assure 2 locks yet (except for maybe the YRD450 for some reason).
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I have a key version but haven't carried a key around for years. I'm actually looking to replace it with a key-free version since that would eliminate the risk of someone picking the key lock.

These locks do a good job of warning you when the battery is low so you have plenty of time to change it. You can also use a 9V battery to charge it up to enter a code if needed.

Either way, good deal on this lock!
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If you're burning through batteries that fast it's most likely an issue with a "weak" z-wave mesh. Look at putting some/a z-wave repeaters between your hub and the lock and it should drastically improve battery life. I have a repeater sitting right next to mine and am going on month four with batteries around 60%. We also go through that door probably 8 times a day also locking/unlocking each time. So those batteries are turning that deadbolt a lot.

The reason your WiFi one works better is like you said, it's got a powered repeater basically sitting on top of the lock.
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Aug 31, 2023 10:42 AM
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NukeIcbmAug 31, 2023 10:42 AM
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Quote from Shawnmjr View quoted comment :
I have had this lock for about 5 months now and I can tell you it burns batteries like crazy. It does a good job of letting you know ahead of time, but I have to replace the batteries in this about every 3 weeks. I also have the nest x yale lock with nest connect and in my opinion it's a way better option. I have had the nest one for probably 4 years and very rarely change the batteries. The nest connect plugs in the wall and Im guessing that is why the batteries on the lock do better because the Wi-Fi is through the nest connect powered by the wall instead of the lock using batteries to search for the signal?

Save your money and buy the nest x yale lock, my honest opinion.
If you're burning through batteries that fast it's most likely an issue with a "weak" z-wave mesh. Look at putting some/a z-wave repeaters between your hub and the lock and it should drastically improve battery life. I have a repeater sitting right next to mine and am going on month four with batteries around 60%. We also go through that door probably 8 times a day also locking/unlocking each time. So those batteries are turning that deadbolt a lot.

The reason your WiFi one works better is like you said, it's got a powered repeater basically sitting on top of the lock.
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Aug 31, 2023 11:41 AM
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JDH1121Aug 31, 2023 11:41 AM
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How is it different than this one?

Yale Assure Lock 2, Z-Wave Key-Free Touchscreen Lock (New), Black Suede https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BMSVX3Z2
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Aug 31, 2023 11:47 AM
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sahastraAug 31, 2023 11:47 AM
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Hi Guys

How do these locks are safe from hackers breaking the wifi and getting access to it. ?

What we need to prevent ?
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Aug 31, 2023 12:07 PM
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kigmatzomatAug 31, 2023 12:07 PM
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Quote from roactive View quoted comment :
I have a key version but haven't carried a key around for years. I'm actually looking to replace it with a key-free version since that would eliminate the risk of someone picking the key lock.
Lockpicking is an overrated fear. Most break ins are through a glass window. (Which is why I have glass break sensors) A lockpick won't bypass a "door opened/unlocked" alert from the z-wave hub.

I need car keys to leave my house so adding a physical key to the ring is trivial. Plus keys are a fallback for relatives who might need access and won't remember a code.

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These locks do a good job of warning you when the battery is low so you have plenty of time to change it. You can also use a 9V battery to charge it up to enter a code if needed.
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Living somewhere the temps can swing between 70F and 30F in under 12 hours, I can tell you that's not true. Come home with frost on the ground and that lock might just bleep sadly at you even if when you left earlier it reported 35% power. That first frost puts the lie to a lot of battery monitoring.

That 9v battery you keep outside (since if you won't carry keys you definitely aren't carrying a 9v) has been experiencing those same temp swings so will actually it work? Not a bet I want to be making at 2am.
Aug 31, 2023 12:18 PM
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kigmatzomatAug 31, 2023 12:18 PM
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Quote from sahastra View quoted comment :
Hi Guys

How do these locks are safe from hackers breaking the wifi and getting access to it. ?

What we need to prevent ?
its z-wave which is its own radio standard on 900Mhz vs the 2.4Ghz & 5Ghz of wifi. So totally immune.

Zwave devices need a hub, which is usually on your network (though many can work without it, like security systems). That should be secured by your firewall and hopefully it's own password.

To be honest, the wifi risk of a lock is minimal where break ins are concerned. A rock through a convenient window is a bigger risk.

The main risk of wifi devices are from attacks on the cloud service (i.e. telling all locks everywhere to unlock or adding a universal unlock code), insecure cloud management (letting people issue commands with to devices they don't own) or the locks being suborned into a botnet or malware server.

i ddont know of any major lock manufacturers who have these problems, but off the top of my head a few weeks ago a 3d printer cloud went nuts and send prints to the wrong printers, last year a garage door cloud authentication was nonexistent so anyone could send unlock codes to random openers (or all of them of you had enough time/scripts), and various smartplugs have had malware like cryptominers installed, so all of these are plausible scenarios.
Aug 31, 2023 12:21 PM
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kigmatzomatAug 31, 2023 12:21 PM
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Quote from Dev_Atl View quoted comment :
Can this be used just as a keypad entry without connecting to a hub?
If it is like the Real Livng series yes. And since the zwave module is removable (they show it in a picture) its almost certain it can operate without it. In most cases they sell versions of thr lock without the radios.
Aug 31, 2023 1:05 PM
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sgreasbyAug 31, 2023 1:05 PM
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Quote from kigmatzomat View quoted comment :
Lockpicking is an overrated fear. Most break ins are through a glass window. (Which is why I have glass break sensors) A lockpick won't bypass a "door opened/unlocked" alert from the z-wave hub.
Agreed. Most break-ins are people who want to get in and out quickly and do not care if the entry is eventually discovered. Most people cannot pick anywhere near as fast as the lock picking lawyer. It takes time, even raking and bumping take a little time. If this is a concern, just open the lock and replace a couple spring with stiffer springs and replace a few pins with security pins.

Another concern is the door frame. Most people have cheap locks with inadequate strike plates and short screws that can be easily kicked in. These can be replaced for just a few dollars and minimal effort.

I have yet to find a good electronic lock that I think would be worth installing on my house. Lock companies do not seem to know much about electronics and electronics companies know nothing about locks. The offerings are getting better, but everything still falls short of my expectations. Meanwhile, if I need to enter my home without a key, I will use the keypad on the attached garage.

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Aug 31, 2023 1:07 PM
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Wavy-NifeAug 31, 2023 1:07 PM
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So this is only a good price if connecting to an alarm system using Z-wave?
Seems like there are many other options if don't need that feature
Aug 31, 2023 1:55 PM
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contactcrAug 31, 2023 1:55 PM
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Quote from Shawnmjr View quoted comment :
I have had this lock for about 5 months now and I can tell you it burns batteries like crazy. It does a good job of letting you know ahead of time, but I have to replace the batteries in this about every 3 weeks. I also have the nest x yale lock with nest connect and in my opinion it's a way better option. I have had the nest one for probably 4 years and very rarely change the batteries. The nest connect plugs in the wall and Im guessing that is why the batteries on the lock do better because the Wi-Fi is through the nest connect powered by the wall instead of the lock using batteries to search for the signal?

Save your money and buy the nest x yale lock, my honest opinion.
Warranty it through Yale. I have an older lever model that would eat through batteries quickly (not this quick though) and I waited too long and the warranty ended. I tried a bluetooth module instead of a zwave module thinking the module might be eating battery but it was the lock itself. I have an identical one that can last more than a year and this dud one I got would barely last 2 months. Replace it now.
Aug 31, 2023 2:03 PM
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drewdogg77Aug 31, 2023 2:03 PM
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Quote from Shawnmjr View quoted comment :
I have had this lock for about 5 months now and I can tell you it burns batteries like crazy. It does a good job of letting you know ahead of time, but I have to replace the batteries in this about every 3 weeks. I also have the nest x yale lock with nest connect and in my opinion it's a way better option. I have had the nest one for probably 4 years and very rarely change the batteries. The nest connect plugs in the wall and Im guessing that is why the batteries on the lock do better because the Wi-Fi is through the nest connect powered by the wall instead of the lock using batteries to search for the signal?

Save your money and buy the nest x yale lock, my honest opinion.
I also have a couple of zwave Yale locks, running off 4 nimh AA batteries, connected to a Ring base station. On my main door, I replace the batteries every 3 or 4 months. It warns you that the battery is low, but then you still get plenty of time to replace the batteries. Will totally buy again.
Aug 31, 2023 2:06 PM
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CleverFawnAug 31, 2023 2:06 PM
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Can it use an existing key? Or does it have a unique key? Asking for install in a rental unit.
Aug 31, 2023 2:12 PM
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sahastraAug 31, 2023 2:12 PM
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Quote from kigmatzomat View quoted comment :
its z-wave which is its own radio standard on 900Mhz vs the 2.4Ghz & 5Ghz of wifi. So totally immune.

Zwave devices need a hub, which is usually on your network (though many can work without it, like security systems). That should be secured by your firewall and hopefully it's own password.

To be honest, the wifi risk of a lock is minimal where break ins are concerned. A rock through a convenient window is a bigger risk.

The main risk of wifi devices are from attacks on the cloud service (i.e. telling all locks everywhere to unlock or adding a universal unlock code), insecure cloud management (letting people issue commands with to devices they don't own) or the locks being suborned into a botnet or malware server.

i ddont know of any major lock manufacturers who have these problems, but off the top of my head a few weeks ago a 3d printer cloud went nuts and send prints to the wrong printers, last year a garage door cloud authentication was nonexistent so anyone could send unlock codes to random openers (or all of them of you had enough time/scripts), and various smartplugs have had malware like cryptominers installed, so all of these are plausible scenarios.
Thanks for this explanation 👍
Aug 31, 2023 2:15 PM
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ZUKHANAug 31, 2023 2:15 PM
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Will i be able to use this for a rental property where I have to change the code remotely at least twice a week? Can remote change of codes be done without any zwave and just Wi-Fi?
Aug 31, 2023 2:32 PM
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antaironAug 31, 2023 2:32 PM
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Quote from ZUKHAN View quoted comment :
Will i be able to use this for a rental property where I have to change the code remotely at least twice a week? Can remote change of codes be done without any zwave and just Wi-Fi?
You'll need a Wi-Fi module in your lock.

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Aug 31, 2023 2:34 PM
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ZUKHANAug 31, 2023 2:34 PM
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Quote from AnatoliiR6750 View quoted comment :
You'll need a Wi-Fi module in your lock.
Thanks, so this one doesn't have that it only has zwave is that right?

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