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Tesla Model X & Model S Price Cut

$79,990

$79,990

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It looks like they cut prices on the Model X and Model X Plaid. The base Model X now sells for $79,990 while the Plaid now sells for $89,990. All color options are included too. It also seems as if it might now qualify for a tax credit.

Edit: Model S prices were slashed too.

Model S base model $74,990
Model S Plaid $89,990

https://www.tesla.com/
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It looks like they cut prices on the Model X and Model X Plaid. The base Model X now sells for $79,990 while the Plaid now sells for $89,990. All color options are included too. It also seems as if it might now qualify for a tax credit.

Edit: Model S prices were slashed too.

Model S base model $74,990
Model S Plaid $89,990

https://www.tesla.com/

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Sep 1, 2023
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DC13
Sep 1, 2023
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Quote from jirasak :
Ignorant, typical comment. Rivian, Kia, Hyundai, and Tesla all make great EVs.
So you don't disagree that Tesla will continue to drop prices? I'm just saying when comparing those brands, Tesla is at the bottom of the barrel, this is why they needed to drop prices by 40k. Whens the last time we've seen a manufacturer drop prices by 40k? One would be absolutely insane to buy a X or S over a Rivian R1S or Genesis/Kia/Hyundai offering.

Tesla makes good cars if they sold them at 15k. That's the level of quality they provide. They match up with old Daewoos of the 80's
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Sep 1, 2023
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kipper99
Sep 1, 2023
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Quote from ggapropros :
theres plenty of people who have german cars then get hit by a $5000 repair bill and want to drop it and go to an electric car. The price drop will likely push them over the edge to do so if they want the easiest to own electric car on the planet (model S, because of its range), or the safest family vehicle (model X)

Owning any nice ICE car is a ticking time bomb, you have to get it off your hands before the engine has some $5000 repair bill that youre stuck with. Then you get into sunken cost fallacy, you put $5000 into the engine repair and want to keep it for 2 more years, and then other crap randomly starts failing on the car.
Wait till you will hit with 20k for a battery
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Sep 1, 2023
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dzyr4tt
Sep 1, 2023
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Quote from Mydiscover :
I bought tesla as a investment back in 2018 and have made many folds. I even got a couple of teslas paid for by my investment and more. Dont know what you are talking about.

he was saying cars as an investment. do you need interweb validation for your tesla stock investment?
Sep 1, 2023
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Powza
Sep 1, 2023
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I would totally be in at this price point. But I just can leave tax credits (that I'm not eligible for) on the table.
Sep 1, 2023
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ggapropros
Sep 1, 2023
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Quote from kipper99 :
Wait till you will hit with 20k for a battery
battery/drivetrain has 8 years/100,000 mile warranty chief

thats twice as long as audi/bmw

It makes sense, tesla can stand behind their battery with zero moving parts for 8 years easily. Audi/bmw/porsche know their 1000 moving part twin-turbo plastic pieces of junk dont last a day over 4 years.
Sep 1, 2023
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stahleyp
Sep 1, 2023
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Quote from sathr1 :
I have a question. What happens 3 or 4 years down the line when the battery health is down like the phones we use. Do you pay to get the batteries replaced or is there some kind of coverage? Been wanting to get an EV but holding myself back thinking what happens next.
They have been around over 10 years...hasn't happened yet.
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BigShotBob
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Quote from wgdz :
Curious if any recent new Tesla model owners have information on quality control. With all the past reports of quality issues that are misrepresented, and my own person experiencing riding in a newer model 3 for lyft and asking the driver on quality, wonder if anything changed?

For those interested, Lyft driver gave conflicting information - love the car, had to replace the battery, and had to get various repairs on his car 'many' times (his word). Which it contradicts his comment of minimal issues from an earlier point in our chitchat.
I bought my Y back in February and so far I really enjoy driving it. It's a lot of fun to drive and with the constant software updates, I feel like I get a few new tech goodies every update. I have had zero issues with the tech. My only issues are with the build quality. Specifically panel gaps and my headlights not being flush with the panel/hood. I dont mind this too much tho because you cant really notice unless youre like up close to it. My biggest frustration tho is with the interior build quality. There is a constant rattling noise when driving and it is admittedly annoying. This is a very common issue. Even when you go to the service menu, Rattling Noise is one of the specific issues you can choose. The interior looks premium but feels cheap. Another thing I dont like is the bumpy ride. The suspension on the Y isnt very good (apparently much better on the X with the Air Suspension). You can feel every bump on the road.

All this being said, I dont regret buying this. You dont really need the insanely fast acceleration but it is nice to have that instant torque available whenever you need, even at highway speeds. I did get the 3rd row option but that's really only big enough for small kids, which we have so it has worked out very well for us. Also the convenience of being able to just charge anytime at home is really nice.

Lot of polarizing comments in this thread. Wasnt expecting this at all! LOL!


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Sep 1, 2023
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ggapropros
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Quote from seanleeforever :
cars... unless collector's item, is never an asset. if you value your money, you should focus on the value it can bring to you at the time of purchase, and that has nothing to do with the MSRP. mistaking MSRP as VALUE is just the way any brand what to brainwash you. back to this particular case... if you ever thought the X is twice the car as Y, or is worth Y + solar system that provides your house energy for the next 30+ years. then.. that value hasn't changed (whatever that is, unless you value definition is MSRP so you can brag you are driving a 110K car vs 55k car)

at least tesla is more up front and reduce prices directly, where as other car brand will reduce the inventory price via things like dealer rebates, market incentives, zero percent APRs and other crap, and force consumer to do research and study for the latest promotion and spend hours to haggle the price. if you find that experience rewarding, then go ahead. but judging by the sales number. tesla's direct to consumer model seem to taking the dealer model market just like online shopping is taking B&M sales. there will always be market for dealership model, but i for one, would never want to go back
true slickdealer

model Y with solar panels is a true investment.

People crying about the model X know that the car was never an investment. It has falcon doors for christ sake. Most people buying a model X did so as a flex on other people.
Sep 1, 2023
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hondaman82
Sep 1, 2023
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did they move to LiFEPO4 battery for these model yet? some older version stil using Lithium Ion
Sep 1, 2023
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IDontNeedItX3
Sep 1, 2023
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Quote from FcLegend :
Fastest car ever made?? LMAO
Fastest production suv*
Sep 1, 2023
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pmrowczynski
Sep 1, 2023
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Quote from wgdz :
Curious if any recent new Tesla model owners have information on quality control. With all the past reports of quality issues that are misrepresented, and my own person experiencing riding in a newer model 3 for lyft and asking the driver on quality, wonder if anything changed?
Mixed. Overall customer satisfaction is very high, but quality of components can be off. Within 6-months I had the center console replaced (twice) and the lights looked at three times due to microswitch/configuration issues. The ambient lights on the footwells also needed to be adjusted. The automatic door handle (passenger) needed a motor changed, and there were two rubber trim pieces that popped out and needed to be pulled on the rear windows (leftover alignment bits?). This was my 2022 MS.

My older P90DL fared much better but had MCU (MCU1) issues which made me consider upgrading to MCU2 specs. But it's in Germany now.

Zero problems with paint quality, fit and finish. I wrap my vehicles though.

Quote from Transforpang :
Anyone actually placed an order today? Show your order confirmation to shut them up
They're actually RN's?

Quoted the MVPA from 8/27/2023 and updated 8/31/2023. Placed a new reservation as of 3A this morning as well for a White/White MX, waiting the call back to get the delivery to a closer service center.

Glad to help anyone else out who wants to know more. The 1st is a midnight silver on black MX (yoke), the second is a white-on-white MX (steering wheel).

Quote from nyt89 :
I believe they announced FSD will transfer to new vehicles for a limited time. Most likely for people who have been contemplating to buy a new S or X would jump at these good deals.
Yes. Elon Musk stated it is a "one time amnesty" and if you go to the various service centers (e.g. Palo Alto) they had the signs up that the transfer was good until 30-Sep.

There were three major price points though, $6K then an increase to $15K, and the most recent (last night) decrease to $12K.

So the phone queue is quite busy today, probably people confirming and changing things. 113 minute wait right now.

IMO, it's best to wait for FSD to actually go main stream. With the advent of HW4 and it still in beta (along with the SEC looking at Elon and his custom mode) there may be FSD issues. The traffic aware cruise control may be all most everyone needs, without even having the in-cabin camera disabling things if you sneak a peak at your cell phone.

Quote from seanleeforever :
cars... unless collector's item, is never an asset.
And personal homes aren't assets either. They have incurred liability (taxes) which must be paid, plus upkeep, not to mention costs associated (mortgage interest + home owners insurance if you're financing). They don't generate income but can operate very well as a money suck. If you're buying a home to rent, you may be better off with the return on SPY even (especially?) if you're deducting due to recapture. But that's an entirely different and more complex conversation.

Few would tell others to forgo buying a home though, just a question of how old, and where.
Sep 1, 2023
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ggapropros
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Quote from hondaman82 :
did they move to LiFEPO4 battery for these model yet? some older version stil using Lithium Ion
LFP is cheaper and heavier per kwh. It is a type of lithium ion battery.

the lithium ion in model s and model x and some model 3/Y is NCA, its more expensive, but more energy dense
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Sep 1, 2023
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sundered_star
Sep 1, 2023
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Quote from Erik2010 :
You do realize families spend 70k on Tahoes pretty commonly now right? I doubt they are all living in 1m dollar houses.
Sure, I guess some folks spend all their money on vehicles. In which case this is an extra important deal for them.
Sep 1, 2023
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whitecruiser
Sep 1, 2023
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Are they trying to clear out inventory in preparation for a refresh release like the M3?
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Quote from DC13 :
So you don't disagree that Tesla will continue to drop prices? I'm just saying when comparing those brands, Tesla is at the bottom of the barrel, this is why they needed to drop prices by 40k. Whens the last time we've seen a manufacturer drop prices by 40k? One would be absolutely insane to buy a X or S over a Rivian R1S or Genesis/Kia/Hyundai offering.

Tesla makes good cars if they sold them at 15k. That's the level of quality they provide. They match up with old Daewoos of the 80's
Rivian as a company still loses money on every rivian they make

imagine buying a car that has no profit margin

Its going to be like owning a saab, what a joy to get repairs done 5 years down the road theres no parts available.
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