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expireddarkxss posted Sep 17, 2023 01:26 AM
expireddarkxss posted Sep 17, 2023 01:26 AM

HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC320 8TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 3.5-Inch Enterprise Hard Drive (HUS728T8TALE6L4) (Renewed) Mechanical Hard Disk - $79.99

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Don't kill me on this post. I think this is a good deal overall. I bought this about a year or so ago and use it as my parity drive in my UnRaid server. When I bought mine it came packaged well and had a 5 year warranty. I also didn't see any other recent post about this drive. Hope it helps some people get a decent drive for a decente price.

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These HDD is refurbished ,Recertified by HGST factory. It's fully tested & passed HGST factory diagnose software test. It works as good as new hard drive with Zero bad sectors, Zero Power on Hours!
8TB, 128MB Cache, 7200RPM, SATA III 6.0Gb/s - Designed for 24/7/365 Heavy Duty, 2.5M-hour MTBF

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VBBKKMB
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Hey All,

Don't kill me on this post. I think this is a good deal overall. I bought this about a year or so ago and use it as my parity drive in my UnRaid server. When I bought mine it came packaged well and had a 5 year warranty. I also didn't see any other recent post about this drive. Hope it helps some people get a decent drive for a decente price.

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These HDD is refurbished ,Recertified by HGST factory. It's fully tested & passed HGST factory diagnose software test. It works as good as new hard drive with Zero bad sectors, Zero Power on Hours!
8TB, 128MB Cache, 7200RPM, SATA III 6.0Gb/s - Designed for 24/7/365 Heavy Duty, 2.5M-hour MTBF

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VBBKKMB

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Sep 17, 2023 03:57 AM
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lukem5Sep 17, 2023 03:57 AM
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zero power on hours my ass, these have ben run at a server farm for thousands of hours no doubt, thats why they have to be labeled renewed.
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It's a gamble for sure. But like I said I've had mine for about a year now and it's been running fine so far. And it did come with a 5 year warranty. Now I can't speak to personal experience having to use the warranty.

I did remember reading somewhere (and don't remember where or who so take what I say with a grain of salt as I can't provide proof) that well done refurbs are sometimes a better option than new because whatever was gonna break broke and they fixed it (if that is why is was a refurb to start with). And with new you don't know what is gonna break yet.

Also anything you put data on should have at minimum one other backup some place else. At the price per gigabyte on this I took the risk. And so far (mine could break tomorrow for all I know) mine has been working good. I have UnRaid do tests on all my drives 3 times a day and this one reports in between 32-35 C with a pass each time.
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rafadavidcSep 17, 2023 10:31 AM
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Quote from darkxss :
It's a gamble for sure. But like I said I've had mine for about a year now and it's been running fine so far. And it did come with a 5 year warranty. Now I can't speak to personal experience having to use the warranty.

I did remember reading somewhere (and don't remember where or who so take what I say with a grain of salt as I can't provide proof) that well done refurbs are sometimes a better option than new because whatever was gonna break broke and they fixed it (if that is why is was a refurb to start with). And with new you don't know what is gonna break yet.

Also anything you put data on should have at minimum one other backup some place else. At the price per gigabyte on this I took the risk. And so far (mine could break tomorrow for all I know) mine has been working good. I have UnRaid do tests on all my drives 3 times a day and this one reports in between 32-35 C with a pass each time.
You're describing the bathtub curve of infant mortality and old age mortality, with the vast number of units failing in those zones.
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Quote from rafadavidc :
You're describing the bathtub curve of infant mortality and old age mortality, with the vast number of units failing in those zones.
Thanks! I didn't know what that was called. What is your thoughts on refurb drives in general?
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AaronS8875Sep 17, 2023 05:52 PM
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Not a gamble, its a guarantee. I have 4 of these that I recently bought to put in my NAS and they all have almost exactly 5 years of runtime on them.
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k4benzSep 17, 2023 09:10 PM
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I just picked up two of these last night to replace the Deskstar that crashed on my NAS. I've had two of the deskstars for about 5 years running 24/7 with no issues until last night when i accidentally opened one of the drive bays with a drive in it while the NAS was powered on.
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AcuraTLSFanSep 17, 2023 10:43 PM
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Quote from deefop :
Not necessarily. The last time I bought a refurb on server part deals it had less than 20 hours. $10 a terabyte isn't bad, either. Not the best, but not bad.
Yeah...not necessarily, but very likely. Where do you think the vast refurb/remanufacterured units come from...consumer returns?

It is a guarantee that all drives will die/fail eventually....it's only a matter of when.
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RoutefinderSep 17, 2023 11:26 PM
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Warning.
About Zero Power on Hours with Renewed or Refurbished HDDs.
1. Does it come with Zero Power on Hours?
Yes.

2. Is that a new HDD?
No.


3. How does it happen?
They reset SMART Data. That's why.

4. Is a Renewed or Refurbished HDD good?
Absolutely not.
Last edited by Routefinder September 17, 2023 at 04:31 PM.
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boobolooSep 18, 2023 02:35 AM
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Ultrastars are ok, but lower capacity tends to mean older drive.

And anyone who believes the hour rating on refurbs ....just lol

Ok for if your drive budget is this, otherwise the 14TB+ tend to go for ~$120 and are more cost effective.

That being said buy 2 and mirror and most of the risk is mitigated.
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PaulD8850Sep 18, 2023 06:19 AM
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In the pictures on the item it even states these have 5 years of runtime on them in "data centers".

So the "zero hours" is not correct, even the seller is stating so.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images...L._AC_.jpg
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GeezermanSep 18, 2023 07:17 AM
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The reset of smart data has been going on for years. More than one reseller ( years ago ) were shady about it by labeling them as new drives.

This seller looks to be honest about the drives. so good on them.

I still have probably 10 or so SDeals server grade HGST 3TB and some HGST 4TB from ebay that were server trade ins. I think one failed on me ( probably bad shipping ) . That's pretty darn good. many of these were made over 10 years ago. Shipping is the big deal. They have to bubble wrap them up.

I still have some slow WD Green 1TB around here that may be pushing 20 years old? I rarely turn them on anymore.

I'm old, so I am still stuck in the mindset that 4TB is huge and a car with 100K miles is worn out. I remember when the first 500GB drives came out Maybe 150.00? It was huge news.
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madmax718Sep 18, 2023 09:16 AM
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Quote from Geezerman :
The reset of smart data has been going on for years. More than one reseller ( years ago ) were shady about it by labeling them as new drives.

This seller looks to be honest about the drives. so good on them.

I still have probably 10 or so SDeals server grade HGST 3TB and some HGST 4TB from ebay that were server trade ins. I think one failed on me ( probably bad shipping ) . That's pretty darn good. many of these were made over 10 years ago. Shipping is the big deal. They have to bubble wrap them up.

I still have some slow WD Green 1TB around here that may be pushing 20 years old? I rarely turn them on anymore.

I'm old, so I am still stuck in the mindset that 4TB is huge and a car with 100K miles is worn out. I remember when the first 500GB drives came out Maybe 150.00? It was huge news.
I still have a 100mb full height scsi drive.. that thing is a tank! Probably only spins at like 500rpm...
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theshopper2022Sep 18, 2023 11:40 PM
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I bought the same drive. These have been on for a quite a bit, but still have a bit of life in them, especially if all you doing is using them for movies and music.

I recently got on the band wagon for 4TB drives for a little over 20. Cheaper than me backing up to bluray media and quicker as well.

These will come well pack. Price is the same as what I paid in May

There is really nothing extra they do on a refurb hard drive. All the do is wipe it down and low level format it to fix / hide the bad sectors. It is basically a used drive. Drives with physical damage are giving the press treatment.
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Sep 19, 2023 01:29 AM
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concealedSep 19, 2023 01:29 AM
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The same seller has this other ultrastar drive with a 5 year warranty and $10 less. Is there a big difference in the models?

https://www.amazon.com/HGST-Ultra...08W1PRTNJ/

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