expiredtDames | Staff posted Sep 18, 2023 08:20 PM
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expiredtDames | Staff posted Sep 18, 2023 08:20 PM
65" SAMSUNG S90C Class OLED 4K Smart Television $1600 + Free Shipping
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C3 scored the same as S90C at rtings, but it doesn't have MLA tech so it won't get as bright.
If you watch a lot of 480p720p content then steer towards Sony (Not LG). But if you consume only 1080p/4K (or have a 4k player that does upscaling to 4K) this one is hard to beat.
Not having DV is not an issue. I can go into many reasons why even having DV is a moot point since there are so many variables in color, brightness, contrast, shadow detail at play that people focus on DV more than the other things that actually matter and make for a good picture.
I bought an s95b on the Samsung EPP deal and cancelled before delivery because of some of the complaints. If you really want this TV, get it from costco for the added protection.
My 55 costco version is a gen 2 panel. Also the costco versions have 60 watt speakers instead of 40 for some reason (for the 55).
The difference is not that big and many YouTube TV reviewers and magazines have picked this as their TV of the year over the LG G3. QD-OLED Gen 2 just pushes colors and brightness better than G3 MLA-OLED does.
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My 55 costco version is a gen 2 panel. Also the costco versions have 60 watt speakers instead of 40 for some reason (for the 55).
My s95b 55 died and I have a s90c 55 from Costco and the panel is definitely gen2. It doesn't have the heavy magenta tint from reflections when it is off.
The difference is not that big and many YouTube TV reviewers and magazines have picked this as their TV of the year over the LG G3. QD-OLED Gen 2 just pushes colors and brightness better than G3 MLA-OLED does.
There is a lot more DV content than HDR+.
Whether it's "much superior" over "most OLEDs" is kinda a stretch IMO.
Here is a comparison of this and just the C3, doesn't paint to same picture.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/c...shold=0.10
I agree with you, most make the mistake of not calibrating their display.
Which two displays did you compare side by side and were they both calibrated?
Let's not forget this all starts with the quality of the content and how well HDR is tone mapped.
My s95b 55 died and I have a s90c 55 from Costco and the panel is definitely gen2. It doesn't have the heavy magenta tint from reflections when it is off.
There is a lot more DV content than HDR+.
Whether it's "much superior" over "most OLEDs" is kinda a stretch IMO.
Here is a comparison of this and just the C3, doesn't paint to same picture.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/c...shold=0.10 [rtings.com]
I agree with you, most make the mistake of not calibrating their display.
Which two displays did you compare side by side and were they both calibrated?
Let's not forget this all starts with the quality of the content and how well HDR is tone mapped.
I was watching Stop The FOMO on YouTube and he had all three S95C, Sony A95L and LG G3 on comparison and Samsung has tuned their colors more in line with Sony yet LG still stood out with the green tint. So having DV doesn't fix that nor can you say that image is how it should look like.
Then you have brightness. DV has higher brightness than HDR but S95C gets brighter than the LG.
Samsung can go brighter without colors getting washed out.
My point is having DV doesn't mean it's the more accurate image or the better looking one when the TV/panel itself has shortcomings.
Sony A95L might be the best TV when it comes out but it is $5000 for a 77". Will have to wait and see for reviews. Especially how it handles bright scenes and objects. Sony has somewhat of an agressive ABL.
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I was watching Stop The FOMO on YouTube and he had all three S95C, Sony A95L and LG G3 on comparison and Samsung has tuned their colors more in line with Sony yet LG still stood out with the green tint. So having DV doesn't fix that nor can you say that image is how it should look like.
Then you have brightness. DV has higher brightness than HDR but S95C gets brighter than the LG.
Samsung can go brighter without colors getting washed out.
My point is having DV doesn't mean it's the more accurate image or the better looking one when the TV/panel itself has shortcomings.
Sony A95L might be the best TV when it comes out but it is $5000 for a 77". Will have to wait and see for reviews. Especially how it handles bright scenes and objects. Sony has somewhat of an agressive ABL.
Even in that comparison with the C3 they said "slightly better overall TV" not "much superior".
All a display does is process(render) what it's given.
Calibration just sets the display to a standard with no ambient light present.
Some will do it to their room environment or preference.
All forms of HDR are just enhancements to content.
Brightness is often touted as a main benefit to them.
Both versions(static,dynamic) need to be tone mapped for us to see it.
How thats done plays a significant role.
As you can see there are many factors that influence PQ before anyone can proclaim one better let alone "much superior" for everyone.
If you meant "much superior" TO YOU, no one can debate that.
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