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I think it's weird people suggest not paying these high prices for 40xx cards and to wait for 50xx cards. Do we really expect Nvidia to suddenly become more sensible about selling their cards at reasonable prices? If the 40xx cards are bad the 50xx are going to be ridiculous
I think it's weird people suggest not paying these high prices for 40xx cards and to wait for 50xx cards. Do we really expect Nvidia to suddenly become more sensible about selling their cards at reasonable prices? If the 40xx cards are bad the 50xx are going to be ridiculous
People seem to be coming up with a lot of reasons not to buy the 40 series. Will the 50 series be faster? Sure. But nVidia has been super clear they're not going back to "real performance" and they're gonna keep plowing ahead on their lead on upscaling/FG tech. Seems like if you want big raster performance jumps you gotta buy halo since the 4090 was the card with the largest gen-on-gen leap.
Right, and I guess who can blame them? It's called 'milking it for all it's worth'. They're already out in front and they're no point in pushing drastic technological changes as long as people can't help themselves but drop large sums everytime they come out with a new number. Sucks for us overall.
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09-27-2023 at 01:47 PM.
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That doesn't factor in in new features like DLSS 3.5 and frame generation which are only available on 4x series cards. With frame gen, the 4070 will easily beat the 3080 on FPS. Do bottom line, you are getting more FPS for $200 below the 3080 cost. Seems like a good deal to me.
Nope, DLSS 3.5 is for all RTX cards. You are confusing frame gen, which is dlss 3 and 4x feature only.
Nope, DLSS 3.5 is for all RTX cards. You are confusing frame gen, which is dlss 3 and 4x feature only.
easy to do since there's a DLSS 2 (upscaling) version 3.x, nVidia can explain it all they want but so widely broadcasting numbers when introducing features
Absolute nonsense. Frame interpolation (aka, fake frames) are a feature that's been in HDTVs since 2015. You're not getting any additional performance. The entire point of having REAL higher performance, and REAL higher framerates, is to increase gameplay responsiveness, and reduce latency. Frame generation/fake frames does the exact opposite, and INCREASES latency. It's a feature I'm never, ever going to use.
This, I have fsr turned off, would also have Nvidia version turned off. I don't want fake frames affecting reaction time and gameplay. I still don't understand how they've gotten so many people to swallow this as a feature. Stop wasting resources on this garbage and up rasterization, lower power consumption, do something useful ffs.
This, I have fsr turned off, would also have Nvidia version turned off. I don't want fake frames affecting reaction time and gameplay. I still don't understand how they've gotten so many people to swallow this as a feature. Stop wasting resources on this garbage and up rasterization, lower power consumption, do something useful ffs.
Let's get a few things clear here, DLSS is pretty much as good as native rendering these days due to TAA and convoluted rendering pipelines butchering the quality already to the point where Nvidia fudging things with AI is a better alternative than whatever quality the devs plop out by default. It doesn't help that AMD is way behind and if a dev isn't competent enough to get their graphics looking good by themselves, a helpful hand from Nvidia is enough to nudge performance and quality in Team Green's favor on most titles. FSR 3 is basically going to still be a tier below DLSS if it's ever released due to that. That being said you are essentially paying for this AI stuff instead of more raw power and there are no real gains since the games are being rendered at low-res and low frames with the tech magically making it appear better than it is because your eyes and brain are only so perceptive. So it's still overpriced unless you find certain value spots. Going forward unless AMD does better the best performance and quality is going to be set at an arbitrary price by Nvidia to $1600+ which makes this thing at $500 look like entry-level.
I think it's weird people suggest not paying these high prices for 40xx cards and to wait for 50xx cards. Do we really expect Nvidia to suddenly become more sensible about selling their cards at reasonable prices? If the 40xx cards are bad the 50xx are going to be ridiculous
There's a sort of tic-toc pattern with pc parts where you have a big leap then a small leap. 1000 was a huge leap over 900, 2000 was a small leap, especially for the price jump, 3000 was a bigger leap, 4000 was a small leap where some of the cards, like the 4060 aren't all that much better than the 3060, so the hope is the 5000 series would be better.
That doesn't factor in in new features like DLSS 3.5 and frame generation which are only available on 4x series cards. With frame gen, the 4070 will easily beat the 3080 on FPS. Do bottom line, you are getting more FPS for $200 below the 3080 cost. Seems like a good deal to me.
Interesting price point. I've been using the geforce now streaming for $10/month and thinking to upgrade to the $20/month one cause I want to game > 1080p on my widescreen. Getting this card I'd break even in 2 yrs or could remain on the lower tier.
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Thanks for the reply. I guess I'll take the advice of some and wait for the 5000 series to see if there's a big improvement.
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Nope, DLSS 3.5 is for all RTX cards. You are confusing frame gen, which is dlss 3 and 4x feature only.
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This, I have fsr turned off, would also have Nvidia version turned off. I don't want fake frames affecting reaction time and gameplay. I still don't understand how they've gotten so many people to swallow this as a feature. Stop wasting resources on this garbage and up rasterization, lower power consumption, do something useful ffs.
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There's a sort of tic-toc pattern with pc parts where you have a big leap then a small leap. 1000 was a huge leap over 900, 2000 was a small leap, especially for the price jump, 3000 was a bigger leap, 4000 was a small leap where some of the cards, like the 4060 aren't all that much better than the 3060, so the hope is the 5000 series would be better.
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