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Skytech Gaming - Eclipse Gaming Desktop - Intel Core i9-13900K - 32GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 - 2TB NVMe SSD - White $2999

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Windows 11 Operating System
Windows 11 has all the power and security of Windows 10 with a redesigned and refreshed look. It also comes with new tools, sounds, and apps. Every detail has been considered. All of it comes together to bring you a refreshing experience on your PC.
Intel Core i9-13900K Processor
The insanely powerful gaming and streaming desktop processor, get the competitive edge with the ultimate enthusiast processor for gamers, for creators, for everyone.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6X Graphics Card
Powered by the NVIDIA Ada Lovelace architecture and comes with 24 GB of GDDR6X memory to deliver the ultimate experience for gamers and creators (GPU brand may vary)
32GB memory for intense multitasking and gaming
Reams of high-bandwidth DDR5 RAM to smoothly run your graphics-heavy PC games, video-editing applications, numerous programs and browser tabs at the same time. Lined with stylish RGB lights.
2TB NVMe solid-state drive (SSD)
Ample storage with faster start-up times and data access
Wireless and wired connectivity
You can connect it to a Wireless-AC router for higher speed, more capacity, and wider coverage. The Gigabit Ethernet LAN port plugs into wired 10/100/1000 networks.
Multi display capability
Connect the usual single monitor, or add a second monitor to double your viewing space for work and games. (1x HDMI and 1x DisplayPort guaranteed, additional ports may vary. Monitor sold separately.)
Easily run popular games
Call of Duty Warzone, Fornite, Escape from Tarkov, Grand Theft Auto V, World of Warcraft, League of Legends, Apex Legends, Roblox, Overwatch, CS: Global Offensive, Battlefield V, Minecraft, and more with crisp 1440p QHD resolution and smooth 60+ FPS game play
420mm AIO Liquid Cooler
Lower your PC temperture in a more efficient and quiter way than air.
USB and SuperSpeed USB connections
USB Ports Including 2.0, 3.0, and 3.2 Gen1 Ports offer high-speed connectivity for your devices and accessories
This computer does not include a built-in DVD/CD drive.

Slightly better specced and more expensive than the Alienware and Lenovo deals recently, but from somewhere you can take it back to without hassle if something is wrong out of the box.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/skyt...Id=6537307
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Windows 11 Operating System
Windows 11 has all the power and security of Windows 10 with a redesigned and refreshed look. It also comes with new tools, sounds, and apps. Every detail has been considered. All of it comes together to bring you a refreshing experience on your PC.
Intel Core i9-13900K Processor
The insanely powerful gaming and streaming desktop processor, get the competitive edge with the ultimate enthusiast processor for gamers, for creators, for everyone.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6X Graphics Card
Powered by the NVIDIA Ada Lovelace architecture and comes with 24 GB of GDDR6X memory to deliver the ultimate experience for gamers and creators (GPU brand may vary)
32GB memory for intense multitasking and gaming
Reams of high-bandwidth DDR5 RAM to smoothly run your graphics-heavy PC games, video-editing applications, numerous programs and browser tabs at the same time. Lined with stylish RGB lights.
2TB NVMe solid-state drive (SSD)
Ample storage with faster start-up times and data access
Wireless and wired connectivity
You can connect it to a Wireless-AC router for higher speed, more capacity, and wider coverage. The Gigabit Ethernet LAN port plugs into wired 10/100/1000 networks.
Multi display capability
Connect the usual single monitor, or add a second monitor to double your viewing space for work and games. (1x HDMI and 1x DisplayPort guaranteed, additional ports may vary. Monitor sold separately.)
Easily run popular games
Call of Duty Warzone, Fornite, Escape from Tarkov, Grand Theft Auto V, World of Warcraft, League of Legends, Apex Legends, Roblox, Overwatch, CS: Global Offensive, Battlefield V, Minecraft, and more with crisp 1440p QHD resolution and smooth 60+ FPS game play
420mm AIO Liquid Cooler
Lower your PC temperture in a more efficient and quiter way than air.
USB and SuperSpeed USB connections
USB Ports Including 2.0, 3.0, and 3.2 Gen1 Ports offer high-speed connectivity for your devices and accessories
This computer does not include a built-in DVD/CD drive.

Slightly better specced and more expensive than the Alienware and Lenovo deals recently, but from somewhere you can take it back to without hassle if something is wrong out of the box.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/skyt...Id=6537307

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Sep 30, 2023 5:08 PM
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t3t4Sep 30, 2023 5:08 PM
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It's funny how in the specifications they can tell me there's no "bloatware" in the system, and yet they cannot seem to tell me the model of the SSD or RAM or Motherboard.... Ya know, important stuff like that!
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Sep 30, 2023 5:41 PM
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FabulousSardine3069
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Sep 30, 2023 5:41 PM
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Quote from t3t4 View quoted comment :
It's funny how in the specifications they can tell me there's no "bloatware" in the system, and yet they cannot seem to tell me the model of the SSD or RAM or Motherboard.... Ya know, important stuff like that!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...UM&t=1317s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9Yq637DB0

Slightly different models, but it does mention that they use pretty decent, name brand parts. I gave it a shot, after I canceled my Lenovo just because the whole thing felt like a mess, and the reviews and non upgradeability of the Alienware turns me off of that one. Mine is set to arrive at Best Buy to pick up Friday, though, so I'll know for sure then. I may pay the extra $50 for the BBY membership to get the 60 day return policy though, just in case.
Sep 30, 2023 6:13 PM
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t3t4Sep 30, 2023 6:13 PM
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Quote from FabulousSardine3069 View quoted comment :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...UM&t=1317s [youtube.com]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9Yq637DB0

Slightly different models, but it does mention that they use pretty decent, name brand parts. I gave it a shot, after I canceled my Lenovo just because the whole thing felt like a mess, and the reviews and non upgradeability of the Alienware turns me off of that one. Mine is set to arrive at Best Buy to pick up Friday, though, so I'll know for sure then. I may pay the extra $50 for the BBY membership to get the 60 day return policy though, just in case.
Yeah, return policies are important for sure. But you'll know everything you need to in the first couple days, more than likely. I'm so far in to my current build there's no turning back now, another $1800 for a GPU and I'll be king of the mountain 😎, for maybe 5 minutes. Good luck with your new toy.
Cheers 🍻
Sep 30, 2023 6:29 PM
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Gears_and_BeersSep 30, 2023 6:29 PM
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This is the best deal I've seen for a ultra high-end prebuilt that doesn't have Dell and Lenovo proprietary garbage inside. Let the sheep downvote it all they want for being more expensive than those ovens. The 'should be $5' morons will never die either. It's still a good deal.
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Sep 30, 2023 11:16 PM
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echostateSep 30, 2023 11:16 PM
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From the customer uploaded picture I can kind of see (after zooming in as much as possible) the motherboard is probably a MSI Pro Z690 broad ... I'm OK with a low end board like MSI pro series, but Z690 seems to be deal breaker for a 13900k + 4090 build.
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Sep 30, 2023 11:47 PM
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FabulousSardine3069
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Sep 30, 2023 11:47 PM
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Quote from echostate View quoted comment :
From the customer uploaded picture I can kind of see (after zooming in as much as possible) the motherboard is probably a MSI Pro Z690 broad ... I'm OK with a low end board like MSI pro series, but Z690 seems to be deal breaker for a 13900k + 4090 build.
I tried to find my own answer here via google and couldn't find anything. Why is this a deal breaker? I used to build computers, but I haven't been too well versed in hardware in the last few years.
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Sep 30, 2023 11:53 PM
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FabulousSardine3069
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Sep 30, 2023 11:53 PM
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Quote from echostate View quoted comment :
From the customer uploaded picture I can kind of see (after zooming in as much as possible) the motherboard is probably a MSI Pro Z690 broad ... I'm OK with a low end board like MSI pro series, but Z690 seems to be deal breaker for a 13900k + 4090 build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGTI3Gijkf0

Found this, which shows there's no performance difference between a z690 and z790 on a 13900k, if that's what the issue is.

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Oct 1, 2023 12:19 AM
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DeadpooleOct 1, 2023 12:19 AM
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Z790 does faster ram and has way more pcie lanes.

If it's a 690, what a dumb move. Its hardly any price difference.

For a balls to the wall build, yesteryears mobo doesn't cut it.
Oct 1, 2023 1:16 AM
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echostateOct 1, 2023 1:16 AM
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Quote from FabulousSardine3069 View quoted comment :
I tried to find my own answer here via google and couldn't find anything. Why is this a deal breaker? I used to build computers, but I haven't been too well versed in hardware in the last few years.
Two reasons imo:

(1) The reason I'll take a system integrator (like Skytech) prebuilt over a proprietary (Lenovo or HP) prebuilt is all about upgradability, especially the standard motherboard over the HP/Lenovo motherboard (because we don't want to switch motherboard in a prebuilt). A Z790 is superior than Z690 in upgradability for RAM and other PCIE devices, so the Z690 in Skytech kind of kills the upgradability which is imo the main reason to choose it over a Lenovo/HP built.

(2) Depending on the retailers a low end Z790 board is literally costing $0-$10 more than a low end Z690 board (e.g., Msi z790 pro vs Msi z690 pro). Nobody would buy a Z690 at this point. The fact they'll go for a Z690 board in a 13900k + 4090 build costing $3000 it just ... unacceptable. Also, Skytech prebuilts don't come with the best PSU and case fan setup either.
Last edited by echostate October 1, 2023 at 06:10 AM.
Oct 1, 2023 1:22 AM
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echostateOct 1, 2023 1:22 AM
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Quote from FabulousSardine3069 View quoted comment :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGTI3Gijkf0

Found this, which shows there's no performance difference between a z690 and z790 on a 13900k, if that's what the issue is.
It's about upgradability. If I only care about performance out of box and will not upgrade anything in the future, Lenovo and HP prebuilt are probably good choices too. Going for the system integrator like Skytech is more about upgradability, and using a z690 board to save like 10 bucks (MSI Z790-A pro vs MSI Z690-A pro) in a $3000 built is just ... unacceptable.
Oct 1, 2023 1:24 AM
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RikBOct 1, 2023 1:24 AM
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Quote from MagentaScene2481 View quoted comment :
Z790 does faster ram and has way more pcie lanes.

If it's a 690, what a dumb move. Its hardly any price difference.

For a balls to the wall build, yesteryears mobo doesn't cut it.
A balls to the wall prebuilt. The assumption is probably that it only needs to run fine with shipped config, they don't assume the person buying this is going out after and swapping ram/wants to add 4 more SSDs. I get that these things are expensive, but the amount people keep chasing numbers on paper and trying to poo poo on everything that isn't the absolute top of the line is confusing to me. Honestly, outside of synthetic benchmarks or staring at the FPS counter to see 265 FPS vs 258 FPS, no one that this type of machine is designed for is gonna notice a difference.
Oct 1, 2023 1:28 AM
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echostateOct 1, 2023 1:28 AM
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Quote from RikB View quoted comment :
A balls to the wall prebuilt. The assumption is probably that it only needs to run fine with shipped config, they don't assume the person buying this is going out after and swapping ram/wants to add 4 more SSDs. I get that these things are expensive, but the amount people keep chasing numbers on paper and trying to poo poo on everything that isn't the absolute top of the line is confusing to me. Honestly, outside of synthetic benchmarks or staring at the FPS counter to see 265 FPS vs 258 FPS, no one that this type of machine is designed for is gonna notice a difference.
Then go for a Lenovo or Hp 4090 built. They tends to have better cooling than this Skytech built. This one has only four fans (three intakes on front radiator and one exhaust) and the 4090 is getting hot air from the cpu radiator intakes … and one exhaust is not great either.
Last edited by echostate September 30, 2023 at 06:36 PM.
Oct 1, 2023 1:46 AM
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mvpcrossxoverOct 1, 2023 1:46 AM
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Quote from echostate View quoted comment :
Then go for a Lenovo or Hp 4090 built. They tends to have better cooling than this Skytech built. This one has only four fans (three intakes on front radiator and one exhaust) and the 4090 is getting hot air from the cpu radiator intakes … and one exhaust is not great either.
yup, weird how there are no fans up top.
Oct 1, 2023 1:52 AM
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echostateOct 1, 2023 1:52 AM
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Quote from mvpcrossxover View quoted comment :
yup, weird how there are no fans up top.
My theory is just they are saving money as much as possible. A lowest-end Z690-a or Z790-p board, a SSD slower than most prebuilts in this price point (see youtube review from Just!N Tech), and one exhaust fan ... I used to like Skytech, not any more given their recent products.
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Oct 1, 2023 1:39 PM
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echostateOct 1, 2023 1:39 PM
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Quote from Gears_and_Beers View quoted comment :
This is the best deal I've seen for a ultra high-end prebuilt that doesn't have Dell and Lenovo proprietary garbage inside. Let the sheep downvote it all they want for being more expensive than those ovens. The 'should be $5' morons will never die either. It's still a good deal.
It actually has worse cooling than the Lenovo and HP 4090 prebuilt with only four fans and three intakes on radiator and one rear exhaust.

The SSD inside is also slower than the Lenovo and HP prebuilt according to Youtuber Justin Tech.

Yes it has a standard motherboard not "proprietary garbage", but it tends to be the lowest-end Msi z690-a pro (in best buy customer picture) or Msi z790-p pro (in YouTuber Justin Tech review). What puzzles me is a better motherboard like Msi z790-a pro cost literally nothing (yes, $0) … but somehow Skytech has to use the ones that are far outdated and inferior with the same retail price. I guess they must buy these shit motherboards at wholesale discount from Msi because nobody wants them in retail market.
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