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expiredMerryMitten5309 posted Nov 9, 2023 4:43 AM

M12™ FUEL™ SURGE™ 1/4 in. Hex Hydraulic Driver 2 Battery Kit $130.17

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Nov 9, 2023 1:06 PM
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TremodelsNov 9, 2023 1:06 PM
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Good deal, but not an authorized seller of Milwaukee. If you get a good tool great if something goes wrong might be in a bind.
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Nov 9, 2023 2:33 PM
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Nov 9, 2023 2:33 PM
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Quote from Tremodels :
Good deal, but not an authorized seller of Milwaukee. If you get a good tool great if something goes wrong might be in a bind.
Yeah, you really have to wonder how all those "stores" that sell these as new on Amazon got their hands on them to sell super cheap. Most of 'em aren't even tool stores, something seems fishy there.

That being said, this is my most favorite power tool and I highly recommend it. So smooth and comparatively quite quiet, it's just a pleasure to use.
Nov 10, 2023 5:24 PM
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MedicofMayhem911Nov 10, 2023 5:24 PM
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Quote from jeff34270 :
Yeah, you really have to wonder how all those "stores" that sell these as new on Amazon got their hands on them to sell super cheap. Most of 'em aren't even tool stores, something seems fishy there.

That being said, this is my most favorite power tool and I highly recommend it. So smooth and comparatively quite quiet, it's just a pleasure to use.
Dont look at fleabay then for all the pawn shops that sell new in box Dewalt and Milwaukee tools..........
Nov 11, 2023 1:39 AM
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morbieNov 11, 2023 1:39 AM
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Can someone explain to me what a "Hex Hydraulic Driver" is? thx

And fwiw I'd never buy power tools from a rando 3rd party seller
Nov 11, 2023 1:53 AM
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chvyclbrtyNov 11, 2023 1:53 AM
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Quote from morbie :
Can someone explain to me what a "Hex Hydraulic Driver" is? thx

And fwiw I'd never buy power tools from a rando 3rd party seller
Hex refers to the chuck. It will hold 1/4" hex bits.

Hydraulic refers to the impact mechanism. Instead of a hammer and anvil, it uses expansion/contraction of some oil. It's supposed to be quieter and the impulse is a little different.
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Nov 13, 2023 8:31 PM
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Early_AdopterNov 13, 2023 8:31 PM
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Quote from morbie :
Can someone explain to me what a "Hex Hydraulic Driver" is? thx

And fwiw I'd never buy power tools from a rando 3rd party seller
You can think of this as a dampened impact driver. Less noise but hits softer on the fastener. More of a... well, surge than a hit with each impact/impulse.

While the peak torque is less than a traditional impact driver, the overall work done is about the same. And again it's significantly quieter than an impact driver. Also feels a lot smoother to use. Less vibration back into your hand.
Nov 13, 2023 11:26 PM
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morbieNov 13, 2023 11:26 PM
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Great reply, thanks!
Quote from brandonb01 :
You can think of this as a dampened impact driver. Less noise but hits softer on the fastener. More of a... well, surge than a hit with each impact/impulse.

While the peak torque is less than a traditional impact driver, the overall work done is about the same. And again it's significantly quieter than an impact driver. Also feels a lot smoother to use. Less vibration back into your hand.

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Nov 14, 2023 10:02 AM
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Quote from morbie :
Can someone explain to me what a "Hex Hydraulic Driver" is? thx

And fwiw I'd never buy power tools from a rando 3rd party seller
People buy this because impact drivers are loud. This is substantially more quiet. With impact drivers you usually should wear hearing protection.
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Quote from User18383921 :
People buy this because impact drivers are loud. This is substantially more quiet. With impact drivers you usually should wear hearing protection.
If you have the M12 Fuel is the Surge worth it to have also? I hear it is quieter but has less power. Have you used both?
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If you have the M12 Fuel is the Surge worth it to have also? I hear it is quieter but has less power. Have you used both?
I love the Surge. Regardless of numbers, it gets the job done just fine while being relatively quiet and really smooth.

Here's a good comparison in which they found the Surge to be more powerful but a little slower than the regular M12. https://www.protoolreviews.com/mi...ct-driver/
Nov 15, 2023 12:03 AM
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User18383921Nov 15, 2023 12:03 AM
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If you have the M12 Fuel is the Surge worth it to have also? I hear it is quieter but has less power. Have you used both?
I don't have mine yet. Just ordered on home depot a couple of days ago. Similar pricing with the current sale there.

It's definitely worth it for me if I don't have to keep wearing hearing protection. There was a review where someone did a decibel comparison and it was noticeably quieter.

If you don't mind the loudness of the impact driver. It's probably not really worth it.

With that being said, everybody loves the surge.

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