Kasa Smart Wi-Fi Single Pole Motion Sensor Light Switch w/ Dimmer

RedFa

Nov 14, 2023 6:54 PM

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That sucks, I bought a bunch of KASA stuff thinking it would stay for a while since I have TP Link routers.

The rumor started a few years back and there's no major update in this topic. In UK, Kasa is officially discontinued, but in the US, both TAPO and KASA are sold at the same time. Not sure which direction the company will go to, but I hope they state their direction clearly.

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beangonz

Nov 14, 2023 7:32 PM

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I have lots of Kasa stuff in my home and I really like it. But the rumor of discontinuation of the brand turned me off investing into the eco system further.

Any updates on this? I think it was called Tapo*(edit) or something that they were trying to migrate to

For what it's worth, the Tapo app recently added support for (most?) Kasa devices, so you can still manage them all in one place easily. You can sign in using the same TP-Link account you would have already created for Kasa, and it should prompt you to auto-add all your existing devices. I'm also still all on Kasa, so I can't say if there is any weirdness stemming from mixing the two product lines in one environment, but the app seems to at least have feature parity with the old Kasa app.

Edit: tp-link has a FAQ page about the Kasa/Tapo integration here: https://www.tp-link.com/us/suppor...%20devices. One item of note:

Is Kasa being phased out?

No, there are currently no plans to phase out Kasa in the US. Kasa is important to us here, and we will continue to release new products to the Kasa product line throughout the foreseeable future.

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noapparentfunction

Nov 14, 2023 8:54 PM

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i like Kasa, too, but i have a sort of unique issue if anyone could figure out what i should do.

i replaced my old ceiling fans. the new ones have LED lamps and are controlled by remotes. i'm already getting a Bond Bridge so my Home Assistant box could control them.

anyway, now i'm trying to figure out what i should replace the disconnected wall switches with. they don't do anything, so i was thinking of installing a motion sensor. Home Assistant would pick up on it and then tell the light to turn on. this is an old house and i don't have neutral wires. either Wi-Fi or Zigbee would do.

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rypajo

Nov 14, 2023 11:29 PM

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I have so many of the regular ones and just recently got the motion one for our bathroom remodel. Being able to walk in there in the middle of the night and having it turn on at 5% brightness is well worth it. I have only ever had one of the 50 ish kasa product I own fail and it was a warehouse unit from Amazon I neglected to install for way too long so I believe someone tried wiring it wrong and blew it up.

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MitchJ

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I see C3 is showing this to be the lowest pricing since inception of this product posting on Amazon.

Yeah, this is a good deal. I've been watching these prides for months.

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MitchJ

Nov 15, 2023 12:55 AM

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Love the non-motion kasa stuff, have loads of it. Tried this motion sensor switch and found the motion sensor function to be unusable. Turned on and off randomly when it shouldn't. Disabled the motion function and just use it like a standard kasa dimmer. FYI the whole lineup is getting updated with Matter compatible versions, many are already available.

I'm not here to crap on your comment, just to give a contrary case. I got two recently and I've loved them. There's a motion sensor and a light sensor. I wonder if your problem is rooted in the light sensor.

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MitchJ

Nov 15, 2023 12:56 AM

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I didn't get. We have switches where neutral is not required?

What?

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UpbeatKnob539

Nov 15, 2023 1:13 AM

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Quote from MitchJ

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I'm not here to crap on your comment, just to give a contrary case. I got two recently and I've loved them. There's a motion sensor and a light sensor. I wonder if your problem is rooted in the light sensor.

That's possible, I didn't even know it had a light sensor. It's been a while so I don't remember exactly, but I tried to set it up to turn on when it detects motion and then turn off if there is no motion for X minutes. It was always turning on when there was no motion and off at random times even when a person was walking right in front of it.

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MitchJ

Nov 15, 2023 1:31 AM

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Quote from rypajo

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I have so many of the regular ones and just recently got the motion one for our bathroom remodel. Being able to walk in there in the middle of the night and having it turn on at 5% brightness is well worth it. I have only ever had one of the 50 ish kasa product I own fail and it was a warehouse unit from Amazon I neglected to install for way too long so I believe someone tried wiring it wrong and blew it up.

Do you have to have it turn on, then dim? Or can it set to dim then turn on at that level?

MitchJ

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Quote from noapparentfunction

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i like Kasa, too, but i have a sort of unique issue if anyone could figure out what i should do.

i replaced my old ceiling fans. the new ones have LED lamps and are controlled by remotes. i'm already getting a Bond Bridge so my Home Assistant box could control them.

anyway, now i'm trying to figure out what i should replace the disconnected wall switches with. they don't do anything, so i was thinking of installing a motion sensor. Home Assistant would pick up on it and then tell the light to turn on. this is an old house and i don't have neutral wires. either Wi-Fi or Zigbee would do.

Make them plugs? Sconces?

Phillycore

Nov 15, 2023 2:08 AM

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I have 2 of these motion smart dimmers and they work really well for small areas where a simple on/off is needed. Example...bathroom where motion trigger lights or fan on no motion off. Can adjust power settings on a schedule as well.
I was hoping for more flexibility using the motion sensor within the switch as a trigger for Alexa routines, but even changing the device type from a switch to a light didn't allow me the ability to choose it. I didn't put too much effort into it though as it wasn't a necessity for my space....so it may work with creativity.

I have around 15 other kasa non motion wi fi switches throughout my home and all work without any issues.
Must have neutral wire, but they are the same quality as the lutron switches I have as well at a much better price point.

Last edited by Phillycore November 14, 2023 at 06:10 PM.

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rypajo

Nov 15, 2023 2:51 PM

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Quote from MitchJ

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Do you have to have it turn on, then dim? Or can it set to dim then turn on at that level?

You can more or less tell it do to whatever behavior you want. The ONE thing I would love for them to do is let me group switches. There is three smart switches in that one bathroom. Would love if the one sees motion it would tell the others to do the same. Or at least maybe share a program from device to device instead of having to program from scratch.

anthony32376

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Quote from UpbeatKnob539

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Love the non-motion kasa stuff, have loads of it. Tried this motion sensor switch and found the motion sensor function to be unusable. Turned on and off randomly when it shouldn't. Disabled the motion function and just use it like a standard kasa dimmer. FYI the whole lineup is getting updated with Matter compatible versions, many are already available.

I ams still not sold on matter as a aotec hub owner I can't see how it would effect my life in the slightest in fact I don't really see any benefit to it at all
Light goes on light goes off
Pairing is easy enough what is the point of matter, nobody seems to actually know.
I buy cheap house fires from AliExpress for $1.78 ( DIY smart switch and the sonoff basic clones that work with Tuya) all day and the pairing process with tuya is almost entirely passive
Without baby matter BS
I can't imagine what practical benefits matter could add

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UpbeatKnob539

Nov 15, 2023 4:10 PM

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Quote from anthony32376

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I ams still not sold on matter as a aotec hub owner I can't see how it would effect my life in the slightest in fact I don't really see any benefit to it at all
Light goes on light goes off
Pairing is easy enough what is the point of matter, nobody seems to actually know.
I buy cheap house fires from AliExpress for $1.78 ( DIY smart switch and the sonoff basic clones that work with Tuya) all day and the pairing process with tuya is almost entirely passive
Without baby matter BS
I can't imagine what practical benefits matter could add

Matter compatible devices are supposed to be able to be adopted without needing a special third party app. That's the benefit.

wwu123

Nov 15, 2023 4:11 PM

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Quote from cwagdev

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Many older homes don't have them

Even when we remodeled our home 15 years ago, pretty much all of the home was brought up to code, but not every switch has a neutral. The bedroom light switches have them, as occupancy sensor switches were required for CA Title 24 requirements, but some common room switches don't.

Also, I have several multi-gang wallplates with 2-3 light switches together, where the dumb switches didn't have neutrals, but I see the electrician has a bunch of neutrals all tied together. One time I was able to install one Kasa smart switch in a multi-gang box, but a 2nd one kept immediately tripping a nearby GFCI outlet - not sure exactly, but I think the neutral for the outlets was tied to those same neutral wires, and the stray current used by the switch was triggering the GFCI fault detection, had to remove that 2nd Kasa switch.

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