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EcoFlow DELTA Pro 3600Wh Portable Power Station + Smart Home Panel

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EcoFlow has EcoFlow DELTA Pro 3600Wh Portable Power Station + Smart Home Panel on sale for $2588.81 when you apply coupon code EF6PCTOFF. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member MinhTrinh for finding this deal.

Product Details:
  • Professional electrician installation required; installation fees not included.
  • The portable home battery: DELTA Pro supports a 3.6kWh capacity that can be expanded all the way to 25kWh. The kicker? You can integrate it directly with your home circuits via the Smart Home Panel. Ideal for home backup.
  • Power pretty much anything: DELTA Pro leads the industry when it comes to AC output. With 3600W you've got a portable generator that can power heavy-duty appliances such as dryers, AC units & more. Need even more power? Pair two units together to hit a massive 7200W.
  • A smart home battery system Made specifically for the DELTA Pro ecosystem, the Smart Home Panel connects the DELTA Pro portable power station right to your home's wiring.
  • Backup power for essential home appliances When the grid goes down, the Smart Home Panel instantly switches to battery backup mode using any connected DELTA Pro units. Your home will go on strong with up to 7200W of power and 25kWh of energy when properly equipped.
  • EcoFlow app control Monitor, control, and manage energy through the EcoFlow app. The app gives real-time metrics and lets you avoid peak rates.
  • Peak rate avoidance If you're on a time-of-use billing rate, you can use the Smart Home Panel and attached DELTA Pros to store energy when rates are low and consume it when rates are high.

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EcoFlow has EcoFlow DELTA Pro 3600Wh Portable Power Station + Smart Home Panel on sale for $2588.81 when you apply coupon code EF6PCTOFF. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member MinhTrinh for finding this deal.

Product Details:
  • Professional electrician installation required; installation fees not included.
  • The portable home battery: DELTA Pro supports a 3.6kWh capacity that can be expanded all the way to 25kWh. The kicker? You can integrate it directly with your home circuits via the Smart Home Panel. Ideal for home backup.
  • Power pretty much anything: DELTA Pro leads the industry when it comes to AC output. With 3600W you've got a portable generator that can power heavy-duty appliances such as dryers, AC units & more. Need even more power? Pair two units together to hit a massive 7200W.
  • A smart home battery system Made specifically for the DELTA Pro ecosystem, the Smart Home Panel connects the DELTA Pro portable power station right to your home's wiring.
  • Backup power for essential home appliances When the grid goes down, the Smart Home Panel instantly switches to battery backup mode using any connected DELTA Pro units. Your home will go on strong with up to 7200W of power and 25kWh of energy when properly equipped.
  • EcoFlow app control Monitor, control, and manage energy through the EcoFlow app. The app gives real-time metrics and lets you avoid peak rates.
  • Peak rate avoidance If you're on a time-of-use billing rate, you can use the Smart Home Panel and attached DELTA Pros to store energy when rates are low and consume it when rates are high.

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bloodwrz
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3.6kWh = 3600 watt hours. That is battery capacity. It can deliver 3600 watts for one hour then it's dead. Or 1800 watts for 2 hours, 900 watts for 4 hrs, etc. Using appliances that consume 500-600 watts each will go quickly. Forget about A/C or electric ovens.
Caleo
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Uh, what? These are 3600W continuous output, with 3.5 kWh worth of storage capacity. That is not really sufficient for running high load/drain devices like a range or central AC. Could one or the other work? Perhaps. Should you rely on that? Probably not.
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Agreed. This is good deal.

Add on $290 ($29 x 10) for the necessary relays and the math looks something like:
$2725 + 290 = $3015 for Delta Pro and SHP.


That's better than I could put together in a similar deal:
Delta Pro standalone: $2449 (Costco price)
Smart Home Panel with relays: $999 (Ecoflow site and others)
$2449 + 999 = $3448

Hmm decisions decisions…

Many lifePO4 batteries are dropping in price at the moment. So the decision between a pre-built system like the Delta Pro vs DIY with separate components is difficult atm.

For those wanting to understand these Ecoflow products and/or other DIY options checkout the Ecoflow subreddit or visit diysolarforum.com. Those are much better places to get technical info rather than SD.

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Quote from joe1512 :
For perspective, a space heater eats 1500 to 1800 watts per hour. So thos powers 2 of em for 1 hr. Not super impressive for thousands of dollars.
Space heaters are.. not a good way to gauge battery/inverter setups' usefulness. That's like driving at top speed in a car then saying "huh, not super impressive" when you see your resulting fuel economy.

Quote from Underclocked :
This Unit usually on sale for $900-1000 ???????
Nah, not even close, especially with this transfer panel... you're probably thinking about the Delta 2.
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Quote from Underclocked :
This Unit usually on sale for $900-1000 ???????
Smart home panel is usually $900-1000, not this combo
Nov 15, 2023 04:54 AM
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I actually just bought TWO of the combos for 2xDelta Pros and 2xSmart Panels since it was cheaper than the 2xDelta & 1xPanel combo. Also, it will then qualify for the free 400W solar panel. Only 1 Infinity Cable is included with each Smart Panel to connect only 1 Delta Pro. The Infinity Cable is out of stock, so I bought the extra smart panel to get the extra cable to connect my 2nd Delta Pro. I can confirm that the panels do come with all the relays needed.

You can most likely connect A/C if you add a soft starter to your compressor, which is a problem for any battery system... ...including draining it fairly quickly. Keep in mind that 240V will take two circuit relays of your available 10 circuits AND you will need to connect 2 Delta Pros to make it work. Watch this YouTube review to get into how the Smart Panel work in single phase & split phase configurations and what to consider - https://youtu.be/KadE5X9F1vI?si=d...9zBS&t=145

I am having a professional electrician install 1 Panel for me this weekend while I will install the other myself just to monitor other circuit breaker usage without Delta Pros attached (until I expand). I am using this setup as an almost all home UPS battery backup system while flipping automatically to it during peak grid hours. My grid utility charges 5x the amount during peak time for solar customers, so I get to feel that in my pocket big time on cloudy days. I would rather put excess 5x charge paying off the batteries than paying grid donations of what I feel is unfair peak overcharge for being solar.

Fingers crossed on ROI
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pfb4everNov 15, 2023 04:57 AM
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Quote from Joseph8869 :
The 30% tax credit for Residential Clean Energy Credit applies as well?
It should if you are using it as a "total" home battery system... which is the only reason I went for it this year.
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DavidY9699Nov 15, 2023 11:29 AM
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Quote from shmoode1 :
3.6kW is 3,600 watts, so 15 amps. It can be expanded to 25kW, but looks like max output is 7200kW even then.

From the linked page
"That gives you a potential 240V, 7200W output and 25kWh of capacity..."

7200W would give you 30 amps continuous. I would be concerned about inrush current of say a central A/C unit. Maybe the battery can handle it but it's still something to consider.

You're also limited to 10 circuits based on the transfer switch (Smart Home Panel).

I had a similar setup with a 10kW natural gas Generac generator but eventually moved to a 200 amp transfer switch and installed a smart module on the A/C circuit to prevent it from kicking on if it would push the generator past it's maximum current. Now I don't need to run extension cords to equipment I didn't have when the generator was put in.
Soft start for the A/C unit cuts the inrush current 70%
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hugeNov 15, 2023 02:28 PM
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Quote from pfb4ever :
I actually just bought TWO of the combos for 2xDelta Pros and 2xSmart Panels since it was cheaper than the 2xDelta & 1xPanel combo. Also, it will then qualify for the free 400W solar panel. Only 1 Infinity Cable is included with each Smart Panel to connect only 1 Delta Pro. The Infinity Cable is out of stock, so I bought the extra smart panel to get the extra cable to connect my 2nd Delta Pro. I can confirm that the panels do come with all the relays needed.

You can most likely connect A/C if you add a soft starter to your compressor, which is a problem for any battery system... ...including draining it fairly quickly. Keep in mind that 240V will take two circuit relays of your available 10 circuits AND you will need to connect 2 Delta Pros to make it work. Watch this YouTube review to get into how the Smart Panel work in single phase & split phase configurations and what to consider - https://youtu.be/KadE5X9F1vI?si=d...9zBS&t=145

I am having a professional electrician install 1 Panel for me this weekend while I will install the other myself just to monitor other circuit breaker usage without Delta Pros attached (until I expand). I am using this setup as an almost all home UPS battery backup system while flipping automatically to it during peak grid hours. My grid utility charges 5x the amount during peak time for solar customers, so I get to feel that in my pocket big time on cloudy days. I would rather put excess 5x charge paying off the batteries than paying grid donations of what I feel is unfair peak overcharge for being solar.

Fingers crossed on ROI
The problem with the smart panel is that it only goes up to 30A. Most homes have at least some 40A or 50A circuits. So they wouldn't get any backup under that system.

If you get a generator inlet, or even the ecoflow switch, you don't have that limitation. And it's about $500 cheaper for 2 delta pro systems. And you could get the free 400W panel as well as another 100W one from Amazon. And it's a little cheaper to get installed. But you don't get the automation and need a lock out kit

Here are the links :

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0...ZWZR&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0...psc=1&th=1
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Quote from huge :
The problem with the smart panel is that it only goes up to 30A. Most homes have at least some 50A circuits. So they wouldn't get any backup under that system.

If you get a generator inlet, or even the ecoflow switch, you don't have that limitation. And it's about $500 cheaper for 2 delta pro systems. And you could get the free 400W panel as well as another one from Amazon.

Here are the links :

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0...ZWZR&psc=1 [amazon.com]
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0...psc=1&th=1 [amazon.com]
Excellent points and alternatives! It all comes down to
  • what you are trying to solve for
    vs
  • how much do you want to spend
    vs
  • how much do want to compromise
For me is to protect essential circuits (not necessarily anything above 30Amps) during a grid power outage and cut down peak utilization with a system that will not break the bank. Once I add direct Solar to the batteries, then I can also work off grid in prolonged outages.

In all honesty, it feels like that the Delta Pro just happen to fall by accident into the whole home backup alternative to the traditional Tesla walls & Enphase systems, which is why the price point in good. Now, with Delta Pro Ultra is coming out, that is now competing directly but also building in potentially the same premium.
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hugeNov 15, 2023 07:57 PM
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Quote from pfb4ever :
Excellent points and alternatives! It all comes down to
  • what you are trying to solve for
    vs
  • how much do you want to spend
    vs
  • how much do want to compromise
For me is to protect essential circuits (not necessarily anything above 30Amps) during a grid power outage and cut down peak utilization with a system that will not break the bank. Once I add direct Solar to the batteries, then I can also work off grid in prolonged outages.

In all honesty, it feels like that the Delta Pro just happen to fall by accident into the whole home backup alternative to the traditional Tesla walls & Enphase systems, which is why the price point in good. Now, with Delta Pro Ultra is coming out, that is now competing directly but also building in potentially the same premium.
What's the difference with the ultra? Will it work with rooftop solar?

How are you using the panels? The ones from Ecoflow? How well does it work.

The price is very tempting compared to a powerwall
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solomaNov 15, 2023 09:29 PM
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Quote from zounds :
Electric space heaters are horrendously inefficient. If you're using any small gas generator, they'll struggle with powering a space heater too. Both are best for powering fridges, freezers, and lights during a power outage.
What? They are 100% efficient. All electricity goes to heat 100%
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Quote from zounds :
Electric space heaters are horrendously inefficient. If you're using any small gas generator, they'll struggle with powering a space heater too. Both are best for powering fridges, freezers, and lights during a power outage.
Quote from soloma :
What? They are 100% efficient. All electricity goes to heat 100%


It took me a few re-reads... but I think you're BOTH right!


Electric space heaters ARE tremendously efficient, in that 100% of the energy is converted to heat. Agreed.


However... they're tremendously inefficient compared to a heat pump, for example! I'm guessing that's what Soloma was trying to say.




I'll also add that when I first bought it, I tested my little Honda EB2800 specifically with an oil-filled radiator and it worked just fine. I think it pulls 1,800W maximum. The generator max is 2,400W continuous / 2800W peak. It worked fine on the Minimum, Medium, and Maximum settings. A properly sized generator should not struggle to power an electric heater. You did say "small" gas generator, to be fair. But even a little 2,000W generator should be able to power a space heater on Medium pulling 700W-1,200W.
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NOLADGNov 16, 2023 04:03 AM
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Quote from drtbar :
This battery is 36,000 watts divided by 240 volts = 150 amps. That will do most everyone's house including electric range and AC assuming range uses about 40 amps, and AC uses probably about the same.

Either way that's a huge capacity battery and looks like you can daisy chain them up. Pretty cool technology. I wonder what the life of the battery is.
It also is only 120 volts with one Delta Pro. It can do 240 volts if you add a second Delta Pro. I have a single Delta Pro that runs two fridges, lights and internet at my house from solar power most summer days. In the winter I have it run only one fridge, lights and internet. I do not have the smart panel though.
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pfb4everNov 16, 2023 03:01 PM
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Quote from huge :
What's the difference with the ultra? Will it work with rooftop solar?

How are you using the panels? The ones from Ecoflow? How well does it work.

The price is very tempting compared to a powerwall
Not a lot of specifics are known about Ultra yet, including price. It will require a new version of a Smart Panel that does 12 circuits. From the looks of it, it will not be backwards compatible to previous Deltas (not confirmed), which is frustrating folks that invested heavily in the current generation. It definitely will be beefier in max power capabilities & expansion options for whole home protection and off grid usage. Does it have the same drawbacks for hard starter A/Cs and electric stove ranges... who knows?

My one Smart Panel gets professionally installed tomorrow with the two Ecoflows that is going to protect critical systems. I will let you know how it turns out.

I am going to keep the 2nd smart panel and install it myself without Pros yet, so that I can keep the firmware up to date and monitor grid utilization on the remaining circuits... the hope is that I can use it without Pros attached for the short term.

Long term. The hope is that the Delta Pros and extra batteries are going to drop in price (or better refurb deals/bundles) and grow the system piecemeal. If the system gets large enough, I may get a soft starter for my A/C and add that to the 2nd Smart Panel.
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MaroonPlastic401Nov 16, 2023 04:25 PM
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The 2 options given make the deal so funny.
Why "2 * DELTA PRO + Smart Home Panel" is $6299.
How does that offer make any sense while option "1 * DELTA PRO + Smart Home Panel" is $2725.00

It's funny seeing companies playing mental games with us.

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Quote from pfb4ever :
Not a lot of specifics are known about Ultra yet, including price. It will require a new version of a Smart Panel that does 12 circuits. From the looks of it, it will not be backwards compatible to previous Deltas (not confirmed), which is frustrating folks that invested heavily in the current generation. It definitely will be beefier in max power capabilities & expansion options for whole home protection and off grid usage. Does it have the same drawbacks for hard starter A/Cs and electric stove ranges... who knows?

My one Smart Panel gets professionally installed tomorrow with the two Ecoflows that is going to protect critical systems. I will let you know how it turns out.

I am going to keep the 2nd smart panel and install it myself without Pros yet, so that I can keep the firmware up to date and monitor grid utilization on the remaining circuits... the hope is that I can use it without Pros attached for the short term.

Long term. The hope is that the Delta Pros and extra batteries are going to drop in price (or better refurb deals/bundles) and grow the system piecemeal. If the system gets large enough, I may get a soft starter for my A/C and add that to the 2nd Smart Panel.
My main breaker panel is outside, was wondering if yours is too and how are you handling protecting the smart home panel and Delta Pros? I'm thinking of using s small tool shed that currently stores my lawn mower.

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