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2024 Tesla Cybertruck - $60,990 + $7,500 Federal Instant Point-Of-Sale Rebate (For Qualifying Buyers)

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Hagerty Review: https://youtu.be/L6WDq0V5oBg?si=KW-QSvAp8s4CQ6kp



Deliveries have officially begun for the new 2024 Tesla Cybertruck. The order page has opened and the following configurations are available for preorder:


$60,990
REAR-WHEEL DRIVE
AVAILABLE IN 2025
250 MI. RANGE (EST.)
6.5 SEC. 0-60 MPH

$79,990
ALL-WHEEL DRIVE
DELIVERY IN 2024
340 MI. RANGE (EST.)
4.1 SEC. 0-60 MPH
112 MPH TOP SPEED
600 HORSEPOWER
7,435 LB-FT TORQUE
11,000 LBS. TOWING CAPACITY

$99,990
CYBERBEAST
DELIVERY IN 2024
320 MI. RANGE (EST.)
2.6 SEC. 0-60 MPH?
130 MPH TOP SPEED
845 HORSEPOWER
10,296 LB-FT TORQUE
11,000 LBS. TOWING CAPACITY

25 Cybertruck accessories are now available to order here: https://shop.tesla.com/category/v...cybertruck


https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck

Qualify for $7,500 Instant Point-Of-Sale Rebate (2024) / Federal Tax Credit (2023) with the following Adjust Gross Income (AGI) caps:

* $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
* $225,000 for heads of households
* $150,000 for all other filers

– More utility than a truck, faster than a sports car

11,000 lbs towing capacity, 2,500 lbs max payload.

Est. 340 miles of range. (Dual Motor)

0-60 in 2.6 seconds. (Tri Motor)

– Ultra-hard stainless steel exoskeleton & shatter-resistant Armor Glass

Fewer dents, less damage & long-term corrosion. Easy & simple repairs.

Armor Glass can resist the impact of a baseball at 70 mph or class IV hail & acoustic glass helps make the cabin insanely quiet.

– Steer-by-wire & rear steering

Gives you the handling of a sports car & a better turning radius than most sedans. Also, incredible stability & maneuverability for a full-size truck.

– 4-corner adaptive air suspension

Offers 12" of travel & 17" of clearance.

– Plenty of storage

6'x4' bed that doesn't need a liner & is big enough for 4'x8' construction materials.

67 cu ft of lockable storage (additional 54 cu ft available with rear seats folded up), with a Vault cover that's strong enough to walk on.

– Power everything

Integrated outlets: 120v cabin power, 120v & 240v bed power.
If the grid goes down, Cybertruck can provide up to 11.5 kW of power directly to your home.

– Space & comfort like a living room

18.5" touchscreen in the front & 9.4" touchscreen in the back, both with all-new UI.

15 speakers with 2 dedicated subwoofers & distributed amplifiers create a studio quality sound stage—obviously goes to 11.

Built-in hospital grade HEPA filter
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https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck

Hagerty Review: https://youtu.be/L6WDq0V5oBg?si=KW-QSvAp8s4CQ6kp



Deliveries have officially begun for the new 2024 Tesla Cybertruck. The order page has opened and the following configurations are available for preorder:


$60,990
REAR-WHEEL DRIVE
AVAILABLE IN 2025
250 MI. RANGE (EST.)
6.5 SEC. 0-60 MPH

$79,990
ALL-WHEEL DRIVE
DELIVERY IN 2024
340 MI. RANGE (EST.)
4.1 SEC. 0-60 MPH
112 MPH TOP SPEED
600 HORSEPOWER
7,435 LB-FT TORQUE
11,000 LBS. TOWING CAPACITY

$99,990
CYBERBEAST
DELIVERY IN 2024
320 MI. RANGE (EST.)
2.6 SEC. 0-60 MPH?
130 MPH TOP SPEED
845 HORSEPOWER
10,296 LB-FT TORQUE
11,000 LBS. TOWING CAPACITY

25 Cybertruck accessories are now available to order here: https://shop.tesla.com/category/v...cybertruck


https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck

Qualify for $7,500 Instant Point-Of-Sale Rebate (2024) / Federal Tax Credit (2023) with the following Adjust Gross Income (AGI) caps:

* $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
* $225,000 for heads of households
* $150,000 for all other filers

– More utility than a truck, faster than a sports car

11,000 lbs towing capacity, 2,500 lbs max payload.

Est. 340 miles of range. (Dual Motor)

0-60 in 2.6 seconds. (Tri Motor)

– Ultra-hard stainless steel exoskeleton & shatter-resistant Armor Glass

Fewer dents, less damage & long-term corrosion. Easy & simple repairs.

Armor Glass can resist the impact of a baseball at 70 mph or class IV hail & acoustic glass helps make the cabin insanely quiet.

– Steer-by-wire & rear steering

Gives you the handling of a sports car & a better turning radius than most sedans. Also, incredible stability & maneuverability for a full-size truck.

– 4-corner adaptive air suspension

Offers 12" of travel & 17" of clearance.

– Plenty of storage

6'x4' bed that doesn't need a liner & is big enough for 4'x8' construction materials.

67 cu ft of lockable storage (additional 54 cu ft available with rear seats folded up), with a Vault cover that's strong enough to walk on.

– Power everything

Integrated outlets: 120v cabin power, 120v & 240v bed power.
If the grid goes down, Cybertruck can provide up to 11.5 kW of power directly to your home.

– Space & comfort like a living room

18.5" touchscreen in the front & 9.4" touchscreen in the back, both with all-new UI.

15 speakers with 2 dedicated subwoofers & distributed amplifiers create a studio quality sound stage—obviously goes to 11.

Built-in hospital grade HEPA filter

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Dec 07, 2023 06:24 AM
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Soda78Dec 07, 2023 06:24 AM
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These federal EV credit requirements are so stupid that it seems Government is only encouraging certain middle class to go after EVs, also it doesn't consider pay disparity in different states. If you make less than 100k, you probably don't owe enough to take advantage, if you make more than 300, boom no incentive for you. And this is said and done under the name of environmental efforts, especially when EVs are hurting environment in many ways much before they hit the road. Aren't there any educated people left in this country?
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Dec 07, 2023 12:43 PM
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KnightshadeDec 07, 2023 12:43 PM
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Quote from Soda78 :
These federal EV credit requirements are so stupid that it seems Government is only encouraging certain middle class to go after EVs, also it doesn't consider pay disparity in different states. If you make less than 100k, you probably don't owe enough to take advantage

The AGI that puts you at $7500 in tax liability is only $66,100 a year if married filing jointly... if single it's $55,400.

That said, if the preliminary rules IRS issued a month or so ago don't change then even this mild restriction goes away Jan 1- you can take the full $7500 credit at point of sale and even if you don't end up with $7500 in tax liability at the end of that year the IRS won't ask for the difference back.




Quote from Soda78 :
, if you make more than 300, boom no incentive for you
Correct- the point is to encourage those less able to afford an EV to choose one over an ICE vehicle.


Quote from Soda78 :
, especially when EVs are hurting environment in many ways much before they hit the road. Aren't there any educated people left in this country?
Of course.

Educated people, for example, understand the total lifecycle of the car is the important part, not "only counting the time before the thing is put into actual use"

An EVs are cleaner overall within as little as 6 months of actual use, and get moreso all the future years they remain in service versus a gasoline car.
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Dec 08, 2023 09:22 AM
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Soda78Dec 08, 2023 09:22 AM
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I don't think it's a good sign to encourage less able people to spend half of their yearly income on a car. I know lot of such people end up getting an 100k, 200k Japanese made for much less than the federal credit.
I don't think IRS not recouping the credit is true, they'll send you tax bill for 7500 if you weren't eligible.
On the last part, EVs are cleaner after 6mo myth (Also, I think it should be measured in terms of miles and not months) holds true if the energy is coming from clean sources.

Japanese ICE cars and few Fords that I know of are the cars that can simply fulfil commuting needs of multiple owners throughout the span of at least a quarter of a century, with very minimal e-waste. It's too early to comment on the mainstrram EV's e-waste since those models aren't even 15years old yet, but they generate a lot of e-waste just within this span with battery replacements

EVs are a terrific innovation but I just feel that it still needs lot of work than a rat race of producing more and more of them and blindly calling them clean.
Dec 08, 2023 02:10 PM
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cptbarkeyDec 08, 2023 02:10 PM
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Tesla vehicles never met the definition of a hot or slick deal. Shut this crap thread down mods.
Dec 08, 2023 03:33 PM
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FishKillaDec 08, 2023 03:33 PM
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Quote from cptbarkey :
Tesla vehicles never met the definition of a hot or slick deal. Shut this crap thread down mods.
The fact that this has -75 score and is also basically unobtainium yet is still in the "Hot Deals" forum is a testament to the fact that the mods are pretty much behind the people (investors) who constantly post Tesla threads.

All Tesla threads are basically SPAM. How is MSRP a Hot or Slick Deal?

Investors just use this forum to advertise.
Dec 08, 2023 03:39 PM
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MydiscoverDec 08, 2023 03:39 PM
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Everyone keep buying Tesla cars or trucks so i can stop working immediately.
Dec 08, 2023 04:15 PM
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KnightshadeDec 08, 2023 04:15 PM
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Quote from Soda78 :
I don't think it's a good sign to encourage less able people to spend half of their yearly income on a car.

...what?

The only thing this does is move more EVs into the "how much I was gonna spend on a new car" band whoever is buying already had planned- or tip the balance of decision making toward EVs if EV and ICE were roughly similar in price otherwise.


Quote from Soda78 :
I know lot of such people end up getting an 100k, 200k Japanese made for much less than the federal credit.

I'm unclear what you're even saying here? did you mean a used car with 200k miles on it?

I don't think there's many people seriously cross-shopping 200k used cars that cost less than $7500 with new ones though.



Quote from Soda78 :
I don't think IRS not recouping the credit is true, they'll send you tax bill for 7500 if you weren't eligible.
Except it is true-- they specifically call this out in the proposed rules for how the POS credit will work.

If you didn't have enough liability they won't seek to claw it back.


Now if your income was too high to qualify AT ALL- that they'll send a bill for.


Quote from Soda78 :
On the last part, EVs are cleaner after 6mo myth (Also, I think it should be measured in terms of miles and not months) holds true if the energy is coming from clean sources.
Not really no.

It holds true period

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.9ZD7BV
Quote :
Research at Argonne has indicated that even for long-range EVs (300 miles), the EV, utilizing the average US electrical grid emissions rate, has a life cycle GHG emission rate of about half that of a comparable gasoline vehicle...that accounted for all stages of vehicle and battery production as well as all stages of energy production.
It goes on to describe (and link to) a tool that lets you compare a typical ICE vehicle to an EV or hybrid based on where in the country you charge too.
Quote :
an electric car charged in downtown St Louis, Missouri – part of the subregion that relies the most on coal for its grid – on average will produce 247 grams of CO2 per mile -- still lower than the 381 grams of a gasoline vehicle
So even where it's more coal than elsewhere EVs are much cleaner.
and
Quote :
In Portland, Maine – part of a subregion where coal is not part of the electric mix -- the average electric car will produce 84 grams of CO2 per mile
So in places coal is less common it's MASSIVELY cleaner.



Quote from Soda78 :
It's too early to comment on the mainstrram EV's e-waste since those models aren't even 15years old yet, but they generate a lot of e-waste just within this span with battery replacements

This again appears to be unfounded myth.

Tesla for example (which is the vast majority of all EVs sold in the US so far) recycles 100% of their batteries.....and from 10 years of fleet data the original ones still hold near 90% charge at 200k miles so replacements are relatively rare anyway.

Meanwhile unlike ICE they're not dumping 4-6 quarts of used oil, per vehicle, a couple times a year among the many other contaminants ICE produce regularly beyond tailpipe emissions and the emissions just from making gasoline.


Quote from Soda78 :
blindly calling them clean.

The only blind denial I'm seeing here is on how much cleaner than ICE vehicles they actually are over their lifecycle.
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Dec 08, 2023 05:51 PM
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Dr. JDec 08, 2023 05:51 PM
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Quote from FishKilla :
LOL, sounds like a MythBusters episode, once the cyberbeast (LMAO) is no longer unobtanium.


But par for the course, they lie about range, so why not lie about a publicity stunt. Applause

Well they did it before - remember the F150 (?) vs Cybertruck tug of war, where the F150 was severely handicapped on purpose?
Dec 08, 2023 05:59 PM
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FishKillaDec 08, 2023 05:59 PM
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Quote from Dr. J :
Well they did it before - remember the F150 (?) vs Cybertruck tug of war, where the F150 was severely handicapped on purpose?
No, I did not see that one. Ill have to Google that.

I honestly don't know why they do that. They will be exposed and then they lose all credibility in anything they say,

The cybertruck vs 911 is hilarious. They used the top of the line cyberbeast (LOL) against a base 911 manual transmission. And the 911 was hot on the cybertrucks ass at the 1/8 mile, so another 1/8 he would have ate the cyberbeasts lunch! And the 911 is track focused car, balanced, not a 1/4 mile dragster
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Dec 08, 2023 06:06 PM
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sHockz_atxDec 08, 2023 06:06 PM
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this thing isn't even a truck. it's not body on frame, basically unibody, so it's just an el camino with big wheels. like, i thought jeep took the cake with the rubicon for making a truck that was bad at being a truck, and bad at being a jeep at the same time. but elon really wanted to dethrone them apparently for the worst "truck" title. EV's main enemy is weight, so the cyber-el-camino is really only for home depot heroes and in-towner tech bros.
Dec 10, 2023 06:08 PM
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nic_kobe_08Dec 10, 2023 06:08 PM
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Quote from sHockz_atx :
this thing isn't even a truck. it's not body on frame, basically unibody, so it's just an el camino with big wheels. like, i thought jeep took the cake with the rubicon for making a truck that was bad at being a truck, and bad at being a jeep at the same time. but elon really wanted to dethrone them apparently for the worst "truck" title. EV's main enemy is weight, so the cyber-el-camino is really only for home depot heroes and in-towner tech bros.
yea only ppl buying these will just drive this thing to buy their 6 bucks coffee and drive to their software coding work place.
Dec 10, 2023 06:25 PM
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Bargainhunter2023Dec 10, 2023 06:25 PM
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Quote from FishKilla :
No, I did not see that one. Ill have to Google that.

I honestly don't know why they do that. They will be exposed and then they lose all credibility in anything they say,

The cybertruck vs 911 is hilarious. They used the top of the line cyberbeast (LOL) against a base 911 manual transmission. And the 911 was hot on the cybertrucks ass at the 1/8 mile, so another 1/8 he would have ate the cyberbeasts lunch! And the 911 is track focused car, balanced, not a 1/4 mile dragster
Isn't the base model 911 already more expensive than the CyberBeast?
Dec 11, 2023 10:48 AM
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FishKillaDec 11, 2023 10:48 AM
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Quote from Bargainhunter2023 :
Isn't the base model 911 already more expensive than the CyberBeast?
LOL, what is your point?

The "race" was a big fake. It was 1/8 mile but they posted the 1/4 mile time like it was a 1/4 mile. Cyberbeast probably lost at the 1/4 mile, that is why they only used 1/8.

Of course a big EV will have an advantage in 1/8 mile. Maybe you can race on street outlaws LOL

Are you defending the big fake?
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Dec 11, 2023 11:56 AM
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goorumaDec 11, 2023 11:56 AM
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As a current Tesla owner, I can tell that the range is really a problem during winter months. You lose a half range and the motors are very inefficient when cold. Also if you tow, you lose more range. You have to have it plugged in every day. At $80k, if you want a work truck, just get a F150. It looks like truck, but it doesn't work so well as a truck. I would only get it if you want to commute to work and can have it plugged in every day. Also insurance is very expensive, so don't believe ppl saying maintenance cost is cheap.

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Dec 11, 2023 03:33 PM
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sHockz_atxDec 11, 2023 03:33 PM
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Quote from nic_kobe_08 :
yea only ppl buying these will just drive this thing to buy their 6 bucks coffee and drive to their software coding work place.
Haha big facts. I mean, my wife has a Model Y Performance for reference here. I also own an ecoboost F-150. I've been driving trucks since 12 y/o out on my ranch. I'd love nothing more than to have an electric truck, but this thing ain't it. Weight is the enemy of EV's, and that's what trucks are designed to do, haul weight. Toyota's got my attention with the solid state battery tech. If they can truly pack almost 1k range in a solid state battery, then we might actually have a piece of the puzzle for legitimate consumer trucks. But as it stands, Elon should have made the cybertruck the size of a Ford Maverick (especially if the goal was making a car with a bed anyway). I really hope EV's start moving to lighter weight models. Would save soooo much on material costs. The best EV we've owned so far was a Fiat 500e. Tiny car with 100 miles range, but it was a 2017 and we just sold it for the Tesla. Cost me $10k in 2020 when we bought it, fresh off a lease. Drove it for 3 years with zero issues.
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