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expiredn0p posted Dec 03, 2023 12:24 AM
expiredn0p posted Dec 03, 2023 12:24 AM

LG UltraPC 16U7R Laptop, 16” IPS Display, AMD Ryzen 7 7730U Processor, 16GB RAM, 512GB PCIe SSD, Webcam, HDMI, USB Type-C, Wi-Fi 6, Windows 11 Home, Gray $599.99

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If you're looking for a larger laptop, this one from LG is on sale at Amazon for $599.99, which is $100 less than directly from LG.
The laptop also has a decent CPU, but is relatively large, and I think the 16" 16:10 display is good for productive work.

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  • AMD Ryzen™ 7 7730U (2.0 GHz, Boost up to 4.5 GHz), L3 Cache 16 MB - Octa(8) Core
  • AMD Radeon™ Vega Graphics
  • 16GB RAM (LPDDR4x 4266 MHz) Dual channel
  • 512GB M.2(2280), Dual SSD slots (NVMe Gen3)
  • Intel Wireless-AX200 (WiFi-6, 2x2, BT Combo)
  • 14.02" x 9.78" x 0.64" / 3.63 lbs
  • 16" WUXGA (1920*1200) 16:10 NTSC 45% 250 nits anti-glare screen
  • 72Wh Battery
  • Windows 11 Home

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If you're looking for a larger laptop, this one from LG is on sale at Amazon for $599.99, which is $100 less than directly from LG.
The laptop also has a decent CPU, but is relatively large, and I think the 16" 16:10 display is good for productive work.

Specs:
  • AMD Ryzen™ 7 7730U (2.0 GHz, Boost up to 4.5 GHz), L3 Cache 16 MB - Octa(8) Core
  • AMD Radeon™ Vega Graphics
  • 16GB RAM (LPDDR4x 4266 MHz) Dual channel
  • 512GB M.2(2280), Dual SSD slots (NVMe Gen3)
  • Intel Wireless-AX200 (WiFi-6, 2x2, BT Combo)
  • 14.02" x 9.78" x 0.64" / 3.63 lbs
  • 16" WUXGA (1920*1200) 16:10 NTSC 45% 250 nits anti-glare screen
  • 72Wh Battery
  • Windows 11 Home

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Dec 03, 2023 12:33 AM
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Dec 03, 2023 12:33 AM
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A "meh" deal. Not a gram, i.e. 3.69lbs vs under 3 lbs. No touch screen. Only 6 reviews. And it's only 24% off. I missed all BF and CM laptop deals and in need of one but this does not look like a deal at all. More like a regular price
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Dec 03, 2023 12:34 AM
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m47150Dec 03, 2023 12:34 AM
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I know there is a market for a lower cost laptop that will spend most of its time driving an external monitor (thus the screen is there when you have to have it), but putting a terrible panel in an otherwise nice laptop has the opposite effect on me.
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Dec 03, 2023 12:36 AM
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m47150Dec 03, 2023 12:36 AM
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Quote from sleepybubba :
A "meh" deal. Not a gram, i.e. 3.69lbs vs under 3 lbs. No touch screen. Only 6 reviews. And it's only 24% off. I missed all BF and CM laptop deals and in need of one but this does not look like a deal at all. More like a regular price
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sku/...Id=6559122
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Dec 03, 2023 03:38 AM
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the_killerDec 03, 2023 03:38 AM
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We may never see LG Gram series with Ryzen 7 7840U or 7840HS. This isn't the true Gram, those are lightweight laptops.
Dec 03, 2023 02:44 PM
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planetesDec 03, 2023 02:44 PM
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"Gram" brand is exclusive for Intel CPU. Ultra brand is for AMD CPU, and LG treats it as second class so it does not get as lightweight as Gram line.
Dec 03, 2023 04:51 PM
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ProteinJunkieDec 03, 2023 04:51 PM
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Quote from planetes :
"Gram" brand is exclusive for Intel CPU. Ultra brand is for AMD CPU, and LG treats it as second class so it does not get as lightweight as Gram line.
Correct. Not just LG but, but all PC manufacturers:
Dell: XPS, Latitude 7000 and 9000 series
HP: Envy, Spectre & Elitebook 1000 series;
Lenovo; Yoga 9 and Slim 9;
Asus ZenBook Pro X, Proart, Expertbook
Etc.
Not a coincidence. No one can tell me that PC manufacturers are not in bed with Intel. AMD had the best overall (efficient, CPU & Graphics Power) APU since the 3000 series and surpassed Intel with 6000 series, and moreso now with Zen4 7040 series.
Last edited by ProteinJunkie December 3, 2023 at 08:59 AM.
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Dec 03, 2023 09:33 PM
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tyiu48Dec 03, 2023 09:33 PM
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I had two LG cell phones and LG TV. They retired prematurely. So, I would be careful with buying any more LG electronics.
I saw the highly rated LG Gram laptop. I did some research but I am still not impressed with any laptop from LG.

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Dec 03, 2023 11:40 PM
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poweroutletDec 03, 2023 11:40 PM
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Quote from ProteinJunkie :
Correct. Not just LG but, but all PC manufacturers:
Dell: XPS, Latitude 7000 and 9000 series
HP: Envy, Spectre & Elitebook 1000 series;
Lenovo; Yoga 9 and Slim 9;
Asus ZenBook Pro X, Proart, Expertbook
Etc.
Not a coincidence. No one can tell me that PC manufacturers are not in bed with Intel. AMD had the best overall (efficient, CPU & Graphics Power) APU since the 3000 series and surpassed Intel with 6000 series, and moreso now with Zen4 7040 series.
Intel helps to actually engineer the reference designs, cooling solutions and chassis for those systems. They work with the OEMs to do that but under the condition that they are used with Intel platforms. Intel has had an entire certification program for Ultrabooks and EVO for this to ensure the systems meet a certain standard.

There is nothing stopping AMD from doing the same thing but they clearly do not do much.

When Intel Meteor Lake releases in 11 days from now, there won't be much reason to buy AMD 7000 series unless it is priced dirt cheap. AMD will no longer have an advantage in power efficiency or on the GPU front while being found in far lower supply and only in 2nd tier designs.
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Dec 04, 2023 01:02 AM
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ProteinJunkieDec 04, 2023 01:02 AM
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Quote from poweroutlet :
Intel helps to actually engineer the reference designs, cooling solutions and chassis for those systems. They work with the OEMs to do that but under the condition that they are used with Intel platforms. Intel has had an entire certification program for Ultrabooks and EVO for this to ensure the systems meet a certain standard.

There is nothing stopping AMD from doing the same thing but they clearly do not do much.

When Intel Meteor Lake releases in 11 days from now, there won't be much reason to buy AMD 7000 series unless it is priced dirt cheap. AMD will no longer have an advantage in power efficiency or on the GPU front while being found in far lower supply and only in 2nd tier designs.
Intel did all this throughout years yet most of their collaborative products still underperform.
Intel has nothing to offer that AMD hasn't offer as yet except for the efficiency route which is their only marketing ploy for 14th gen meteorlake. AMD has their upcoming 8050 series as well so they not resting on their laurels. Being fanatic for either side is pointless. Just looking for the better overall product and that has been AMD from since 3000/4000 series. I was Intel fanboy before so moving on from fanaticism helped me.
Dec 04, 2023 01:23 AM
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poweroutletDec 04, 2023 01:23 AM
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Quote from ProteinJunkie :
Intel did all this throughout years yet most of their collaborative products still underperform.
Intel has nothing to offer that AMD hasn't offer as yet except for the efficiency route which is their only marketing ploy for 14th gen meteorlake. AMD has their upcoming 8050 series as well so they not resting on their laurels. Being fanatic for either side is pointless. Just looking for the better overall product and that has been AMD from since 3000/4000 series. I was Intel fanboy before so moving on from fanaticism helped me.
I don't disagree. Intel's actual HW platforms have been too hot and power hungry and inferior to AMD"s more recent offerings. However, there is more to building a good notebook than just the underlying HW. The chassis design, cooling solutions, standards for I/O, user interface devices, screens still matter a lot. These OEMs when left to their own devices will often skimp on these details. I think Intel did a better job of providing the OEMs with reference designs and also enforcing standards to make sure Intel branded PC's meet some minimum bar. AMD needed to go further there, even though they had a better HW platform they really should have gone further to deliver the total package.


As far as Meteor Lake goes, we don't need to speculate too much since it comes out in less than 2 weeks but I think there is pretty good reason to think it will do very well. The architectural changes in it show that Intel is finally taking power and battery life seriously. The ability to switch off the CPU and GPU dies entirely and run low and idle loads on the LP E cores located in the SOC chiplet and also decode videos without even having the GPU die on will do wonders for the kind of use that most laptops do for most of the time. (Think web surfing and watching Netflix, Youtube, etc). Combine that with Intel also no longer using an inferior process node for the first time in years and it should be a huge boost in efficiency.
Dec 04, 2023 02:01 AM
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ProteinJunkieDec 04, 2023 02:01 AM
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We'll see.. possibly
Dec 04, 2023 03:05 AM
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henboiDec 04, 2023 03:05 AM
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Quote from poweroutlet :
I don't disagree. Intel's actual HW platforms have been too hot and power hungry and inferior to AMD"s more recent offerings. However, there is more to building a good notebook than just the underlying HW. The chassis design, cooling solutions, standards for I/O, user interface devices, screens still matter a lot. These OEMs when left to their own devices will often skimp on these details. I think Intel did a better job of providing the OEMs with reference designs and also enforcing standards to make sure Intel branded PC's meet some minimum bar. AMD needed to go further there, even though they had a better HW platform they really should have gone further to deliver the total package.


As far as Meteor Lake goes, we don't need to speculate too much since it comes out in less than 2 weeks but I think there is pretty good reason to think it will do very well. The architectural changes in it show that Intel is finally taking power and battery life seriously. The ability to switch off the CPU and GPU dies entirely and run low and idle loads on the LP E cores located in the SOC chiplet and also decode videos without even having the GPU die on will do wonders for the kind of use that most laptops do for most of the time. (Think web surfing and watching Netflix, Youtube, etc). Combine that with Intel also no longer using an inferior process node for the first time in years and it should be a huge boost in efficiency.
Designs have nothing to do with it. Intel helping OEMs design inferior products isn't the driving reason (the logic doesn't even make sense, because that means that OEMs left to their own devices are still producing better machines). AMD simply doesn't pump out as many chips as Intel does, so if OEMs want a steady supply of chips, they must work to promote more Intel laptops. After the supply chain issues during the pandemic, OEMs became more concerned about having enough supply. So big enterprise brands like Dell and HP will always push the more readily available Intel chips, even if they are a little bit behindb in terms of specs, because they can sell more of them.
It's not a conspiracy, it's just supply chain robustness and prioritization. If you are selling 2x as many Intel machines as AMD machines, it makes sense to prioritize design and marketing for the Intel machines.
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Dec 04, 2023 03:22 AM
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poweroutletDec 04, 2023 03:22 AM
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Quote from henboi :
Designs have nothing to do with it. Intel helping OEMs design inferior products isn't the driving reason (the logic doesn't even make sense, because that means that OEMs left to their own devices are still producing better machines). AMD simply doesn't pump out as many chips as Intel does, so if OEMs want a steady supply of chips, they must work to promote more Intel laptops. After the supply chain issues during the pandemic, OEMs became more concerned about having enough supply. So big enterprise brands like Dell and HP will always push the more readily available Intel chips, even if they are a little bit behindb in terms of specs, because they can sell more of them. It's not a conspiracy, it's just supply chain robustness.
The fact that AMD doesn't supply enough chips to the mobile market is a separate issue from why AMD products are relegated to 2nd tier designs from OEMs. I'm not sure what gave you the impression that I believe there is some kind of anti-AMD conspiracy.

LG could have put the cooler and more efficient AMD mobile platform in something far nicer like the Gram chassis that you see the Intel products in, but they don't and they can't because that design was jointly engineered by Intel and they are required to use it for Intel HW only. Intel works with many of the OEMs to bring a more premium end product to market with an Intel HW platform inside it. This actually has a huge influence on what platforms end up in which products. If you think this is not the case, you clearly have not worked in the industry.

PC OEMs have very thin margins, they will not allocate the kind of funds needed to come up with premium product designs on their own, they rely on reference designs from the CPU and platform vendors. Intel simply spends a lot more than AMD on bundling their CPUs with nice reference designs that OEMs can pick up and use for Intel based consumer devices.
Dec 04, 2023 02:15 PM
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nektoDec 04, 2023 02:15 PM
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I'm not trying to add fuel to Intel-AMD flame, but LG Intel model can run 2 external monitors.
I don't think that AMD model can.

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