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DuroMax XP4400EH Dual Fuel 4400 Watt Gas or Propane Powered Portable Generator $323.65 + Free Shipping

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Amazon [amazon.com] has DuroMax XP4400EH Dual Fuel 4400 Watt Gas or Propane Powered Portable Generator for $323.63. Shipping is Free

Product Features:
  • This unit can handle heavy loads, from lights and a refrigerator to a home air conditioner and high amperage power tools.
  • Surge Wattage: 4,400
  • Running Wattage: 3,500
  • Engine Displacement: 210cc
  • Amperage: 29.17A / 14.58A
  • Voltage: 120V / 240VAC & 12VDC
  • Fuel Type: Dual Fuel
  • Start Type: Electric / Recoil
  • Dimensions (L x W x H): 25" x 24" x 21"
  • Product Weight : 122 lbs.
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Amazon [amazon.com] has DuroMax XP4400EH Dual Fuel 4400 Watt Gas or Propane Powered Portable Generator for $323.63. Shipping is Free

Product Features:
  • This unit can handle heavy loads, from lights and a refrigerator to a home air conditioner and high amperage power tools.
  • Surge Wattage: 4,400
  • Running Wattage: 3,500
  • Engine Displacement: 210cc
  • Amperage: 29.17A / 14.58A
  • Voltage: 120V / 240VAC & 12VDC
  • Fuel Type: Dual Fuel
  • Start Type: Electric / Recoil
  • Dimensions (L x W x H): 25" x 24" x 21"
  • Product Weight : 122 lbs.

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Model: DuroMax XP4400EH Dual Fuel Portable Generator-4400 Watt Gas or Propane Powered Electric Start-Camping & RV Ready, 50 State Approved, Blue and Black

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Dec 28, 2023
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timbertop
Dec 28, 2023
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Better than the Snow Jo deal because it is 240 volt and transfer switch ready. But to avoid damaging sag-surge voltage when motors and compressors start a much larger engine is required. That's my experience with the very similar 208 cc Firman Ultimate 4550 and the Westinghouse 5300 which is 274 cc 5300 running watts.

Briggs uses a 389 cc engine on their 5000 watt models to achieve stable voltage as is found on many small generators for commercial use. Over 400 cc is pretty much standard on most brands of 6000 running watt or better for home use.
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infin8007
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tempting.. but i'll use an inverter with my chevy volt if i need to..
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BudmanTom
Dec 28, 2023
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Quote from infin8007 :
tempting.. but i'll use an inverter with my chevy volt if i need to..
Have you actually done that?
Dec 28, 2023
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billy_kidd
Dec 28, 2023
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Quote from timbertop :
Better than the Snow Jo deal because it is 240 volt and transfer switch ready. But to avoid damaging sag-surge voltage when motors and compressors start a much larger engine is required. That's my experience with the very similar 208 cc Firman Ultimate 4550 and the Westinghouse 5300 which is 274 cc 5300 running watts.

Briggs uses a 389 cc engine on their 5000 watt models to achieve stable voltage as is found on many small generators for commercial use. Over 400 cc is pretty much standard on most brands of 6000 running watt or better for home use.
Will the snow joe work with the Reliance Controls WKPBN30 Portable Generator Through-The-Wall Kit? I didn't notice that the SJ was 120v only. thanks for pointing that out.

also, you mentioned compressors and motors causing surge with the snow joe, is there any maximum motor or compressor size that will work with the SJ?

I bought the SJ deal but given your experience this might not be right for me.

UPDATE... I was able to confirm that the SJ will
work with the reliance kit but that I need an ac3130 adapter.

still interested in your thoughts on powering motor or compressors. I'd like to be able to run a refrigerator and a small freezer either alone or together. Also would like to separately run a furnace, but not any air conditioning.

thanks again
Last edited by billy_kidd December 28, 2023 at 02:55 PM.
Dec 30, 2023
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timbertop
Dec 30, 2023
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Quote from billy_kidd :
Will the snow joe work with the Reliance Controls WKPBN30 Portable Generator Through-The-Wall Kit? I didn't notice that the SJ was 120v only. thanks for pointing that out.

also, you mentioned compressors and motors causing surge with the snow joe, is there any maximum motor or compressor size that will work with the SJ?

I bought the SJ deal but given your experience this might not be right for me.

UPDATE... I was able to confirm that the SJ will
work with the reliance kit but that I need an ac3130 adapter.

still interested in your thoughts on powering motor or compressors. I'd like to be able to run a refrigerator and a small freezer either alone or together. Also would like to separately run a furnace, but not any air conditioning.

thanks again
Look at locked rotor amps and compare engine cc. More cc more engine torque less voltage sag when a heavy load kicks in . One can measure voltage sag (drop) and surge when motors and compressors start with a high count DVM but it is also possible to note lights dimming or flickering when the motor or compressor starts. Note the sound the fridge makes when starting and running on the generator compared to grid power.

I personally distill things down to cost of operation. igen2500 is only 120 v so it cant connect directly to the house panel but one can install a new receptacle by the fridge and wire it to an outside gen inlet or use extension cords. No problem running my fridge and freezer on the fuel squeezing igen2500 with clean power with power to spare.

A 233 cc conventional will likely be ok too for brief operation but it depends on the appliances in question. The longer you run with voltage sag-surge and high THD the more quickly motor windings will fry and circuit boards die. Commercial users buy 389 cc or better conventionals like Briggs which use a lot of fuel but have very stable output. We have an old Winco conventional made in U.S.A. circa 1980? with a v twin engine and a massive well designed alternator that will run an entire house with no issues. But it is loud and fuel inefficient.

The best but most expensive solution for bav\ck-up power is a battery inverter charged by a generator which can be almost anything.

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