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expirednieto.vince posted Jan 09, 2024 10:11 PM

Jet - Cyclonic Dust and Chip Separator - $30

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Jan 09, 2024 10:43 PM
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imroJan 09, 2024 10:43 PM
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I am guessing Harvey is enforcing their patent or Jet is not willing to fight them. Similar like when SawStop forced Bosch to take down their version of safe table saw. Hurray patents - consumer always loses. Except today. For $30 worth a try.
Jan 09, 2024 10:59 PM
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wsm233Jan 09, 2024 10:59 PM
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Quote from imro :
I am guessing Harvey is enforcing their patent or Jet is not willing to fight them. Similar like when SawStop forced Bosch to take down their version of safe table saw. Hurray patents - consumer always loses. Except today. For $30 worth a try.
Look at the reviews. Just ok for dust. Gets clogged with anything larger. Not a good product.
Jan 09, 2024 11:11 PM
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jdoublehJan 09, 2024 11:11 PM
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I've read reviews which say it cracks really easily too, like if your bucket or bin tips over, or if it's on wheels and bangs into something when you start up your dust collector and the suction pulls on your flex hose (or when it clogs).
Jan 09, 2024 11:14 PM
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TimlessJan 09, 2024 11:14 PM
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Quote from imro :
I am guessing Harvey is enforcing their patent or Jet is not willing to fight them. Similar like when SawStop forced Bosch to take down their version of safe table saw. Hurray patents - consumer always loses. Except today. For $30 worth a try.
patents will expire. as long as legislation doesn't change like copyright did then it's ok.
Jan 09, 2024 11:29 PM
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imroJan 09, 2024 11:29 PM
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Quote from wsm233 :
Look at the reviews. Just ok for dust. Gets clogged with anything larger. Not a good product.
I should've looked. Oh well. For $30 there seems to be no competition. I am willing to give it a try.
Jan 09, 2024 11:31 PM
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imroJan 09, 2024 11:31 PM
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Quote from Timless :
patents will expire. as long as legislation doesn't change like copyright did then it's ok.
Still 20 years seems like an awfully long time to pay $1000 dollars premium on a table saw.
Jan 10, 2024 02:40 AM
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burntorangehornJan 10, 2024 02:40 AM
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Quote from imro :
I am guessing Harvey is enforcing their patent or Jet is not willing to fight them. Similar like when SawStop forced Bosch to take down their version of safe table saw. Hurray patents - consumer always loses. Except today. For $30 worth a try.
I don't get blaming patents. Without intellectual property protections, we wouldn't have a lot of innovations we already take for granted, let alone future ones.

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Jan 10, 2024 03:30 AM
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TimlessJan 10, 2024 03:30 AM
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Quote from burntorangehorn :
I don't get blaming patents. Without intellectual property protections, we wouldn't have a lot of innovations we already take for granted, let alone future ones.
we would.
they would just be a lot more secretive.
Jan 10, 2024 03:36 AM
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ZeeOhhSixJan 10, 2024 03:36 AM
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Quote from Timless :
we would.
they would just be a lot more secretive.
Disagree. With the exception of maybe semiconductors, pretty much anything can be reverse engineered and copied. Patent protection largely prevents this from happening.
Jan 10, 2024 03:56 AM
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TimlessJan 10, 2024 03:56 AM
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Quote from ZeeOhhSix :
Disagree. With the exception of maybe semiconductors, pretty much anything can be reverse engineered and copied. Patent protection largely prevents this from happening.
yea, because patents require you to disclose how it works.
the whole point was to force you to share it.

even semiconductors can be reverse engineered and copied.
you think people would give up making new stuff if it's easily copied?
Jan 10, 2024 08:18 AM
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burntorangehornJan 10, 2024 08:18 AM
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Quote from Timless :
yea, because patents require you to disclose how it works.
the whole point was to force you to share it.

even semiconductors can be reverse engineered and copied.
you think people would give up making new stuff if it's easily copied?
In many cases, yes. Most viable innovations come from research. Research is an investment, and investments are made for the prospect of a payoff.

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