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Weize Platinum AGM BCI Group 47-12v 60ah H5 Size 47 Automotive Battery

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$150

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BTW, since I don't see a core charge for these. People should be able to get $10 by brining it into Advance Auto for at $10 Gift card.

Consider it a rebate card or another $10 off if you need battery accessories.

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com...terybounty
Since I don't know your exact setup or needs, I'll say that generally you want to keep a starting battery at 80% charge or above, and preferably keep it fully charged between uses.

Deep cycle batteries should be charged between uses as well, but can tolerate much deeper discharge without damage, so long as they're charged pretty quickly after use.

A starting battery can give you a much higher load in amps; a deep cycle battery is a reliable power source for long periods at lower amp loads.
That's why I used the words "core charge". With places like Autozone, Advanced Auto, Pep Boys or Local shops, you get charged a "core charge" aka deposit until returned on the old battery. When you bring back the battery, they give you that "deposit" aka, "core" charge back.

As this vendor is doing everything by mail, and not a big outfit they are not charging a "core charge" or deposit since the cost to ship it back far exceeds any deposit. Not worth it. But worth it for you to take it to Advanced Auto or your local junk yard which pays you as well. Might be $5-$15 depending on the place.

In the end, many places will send all the batteries back to the manufacturer to melt down the lead or metals inside for new batteries.

The same can be charged for things like alternators, brake calipers and starters where they can clean them, rebuild them and resell them.

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ScarletGuitar979
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I have an Interstate shop down the street from my house and I was thinking to buy my next battery from them since they also install it.

My current car, it's just way more complicated to change the battery. Too much stuff to move out of the way.

Does Costco install batteries?
The last time I bought one, I had another car so it was easy to install myself.
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I got 9 replies to my post earlier in this thread.
Read them all! if I did not reply likely because i was able to read them but not type(long story)
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hollowpockets
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Quote from memito :
Would y'all trust these on a boat? Mercury engine. I know they're not marine application, but does it really matter?
Marine needs a deep cycle or starter and deep cycle more than car style.
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cyberslider1
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Quote from 210southstar :
Haven't had to buy a battery in a while. All you need to renew them if completely dead is distilled water and a cheap welder
What do you do with the welder?
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Quote from cyberslider1 :
What do you do with the welder?
It's basically a really good desulfator/trickle charger.
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Anyone have experience with dual-agm setups and mixing batteries? Would the weaker battery kill the stronger or would they sorta average out? Or is mixing different brands just dumb even with similar CCA and same chemistry.
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Quote from factorx691 :
Anyone have experience with dual-agm setups and mixing batteries? Would the weaker battery kill the stronger or would they sorta average out? Or is mixing different brands just dumb even with similar CCA and same chemistry.
Managing parallel battery circuits can be problematic, and is rarely as efficient as doubling the size of a single battery, which of course isn't always practical. If you have to run a parallel circuit, like in many of the diesel pick-ups out there, it's optimum to go with batteries that are exactly matched. You may be fine mixing brands, or you may have issues due to different resting voltages at full charge, and the dragging down of one by the other that you mentioned. More often than not, it's not a big deal and any power lost is negligible.

There are battery isolators you can install that keep the batteries electrically separated while at rest, but reconnect them to share loading and charging when they're being used. This should be necessary only in extreme cases of mismatch though. If your batteries are within a couple of tenths of a volt at rest you likely won't have any noticeable issues. Less voltage differential equals less current flow between the batteries and less power lost between uses, and they'll reach equilibrium in a shorter time frame.

I would not advise paralleling flooded and AGM batteries together at rest, because resting voltages at full charge can be quite a bit different between them, with AGMs usually being higher.

None of the above is an issue during loading or charging, because external forces make the batteries work in unison. When loading, the stronger one takes more of the load, and when charging, the more discharged one takes more of the incoming charge, automatically.

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Quote from memito :
Would y'all trust these on a boat? Mercury engine. I know they're not marine application, but does it really matter?
If you're looking to crank a boat engine, no problem, but be aware that marine cranking batteries have a dual terminal. Most boats have a ring style connector, rather then an automotive one. You can buy a marine quality replacement automotive terminal end, or an adapter to change the terminal on the battery from automotive to a threaded stud. If you're using a DIN spec battery such as these H5, H6, H7 etc, the post are recessed and flush with the top of the battery, some adapters will be too large to fit in the recess.

If you're stowing your batteries in a battery box, be sure to verify the fitment. The style of batteries in this post should be shorter in height and similar in width, however the length can vary. Marine boxes typically come in group 24, 27, and 29/31 sizes. Google those battery sizes and you can compare the length to 47/H5, 48/H6, 94RH7, etc.

Lastly, check your charging system for an AGM setting. Regular charging voltage will charge, but can significantly reduce the lifespan of an AMG battery that prefers a slightly lower, and much more narrow charging voltage range.

All of this is a moot point of you need deep cycle batteries. Although AGM is inherently better at cycling than most classic lead acid starting batteries, these are not designed for a deep discharge. They will work, but you'll be damaging the battery with each deep discharge.
'Do I need deep cycle batteries?'
If you plan to discharge the battery more than ~80% of the rated capacity, it's recommended. No matter what battery you decide to use, try to recharge them immediately after use. Do not allow them to sit discharged.
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Quote from BabyBubba :
There are a lot of people expressing concern with this brand, but it's largely unfounded and speculative, and not based on any experience. Reviews on Amazon average very high, in some cases higher than ACDelco, and Weize has a well established track record with AGMs for powersports applications.

AGM prices have gotten out of hand lately. This company is bringing a high quality option to the market at a very low price and I applaud that. I would not hesitate to equip my boat with this brand based on how it's performing in my daily driver. AGM batteries offer some advantages in a marine environment, like not needing acid levels checked in awkward places, and not burping out acid that damages your boat's battery compartment. If upgrading from flooded batteries, I would make sure that your boat engine's charging system outputs at least 14.5V (more important if you spend days away from shore power), and have an onboard charger that's rated for AGM charging. AGMs like a little higher float voltage to achieve 100% charge.

Edit: I should add that these are primarily high amperage starting batteries. They can be used for tilt/trim, lights, or other accessories on a limited basis, but deep discharging them is a no-no, so I wouldn't recommend them for trolling motors. As with flooded batteries, trolling motor duty is best suited to a deep cycle battery.like this:

https://www.weizeus.com/collectio...la-battery
How are Amazon reviews any better than the "unfounded speculative" opinions here when the AGM products were first listed on Amazon around July 2023?

There is no long term track record for this.
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This just in: My battery just arrived (01.13.2024), ordered 01.11.2024 in the afternoon. said delivery date would be Jan 22nd to Jan 23rd.
I ended up buying Direct from the company and used Shop Pay to pay for it. so far still showing no tax and free ship. haven't tested the battery voltage yet. will update with that soon.


I will update my first post in this thread which is on page 2 (using SD app)
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I paid $90.24 no shipping no tax through Hykolity. Hopefully this is a good replacement for my stock 620cca lead acid battery in my 2022 Outback.
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Quote from BabyBubba :
Since I don't know your exact setup or needs, I'll say that generally you want to keep a starting battery at 80% charge or above, and preferably keep it fully charged between uses.

Deep cycle batteries should be charged between uses as well, but can tolerate much deeper discharge without damage, so long as they're charged pretty quickly after use.

A starting battery can give you a much higher load in amps; a deep cycle battery is a reliable power source for long periods at lower amp loads.
My vehicle mostly keeps the battery at low charge; close to 12v rather than 12.6v. AGM is designed to handle this operation protocol better than the original LN2 battery that was the OEM. The CCA is higher than other H5 batteries I have found (highest is 650cca @ Costco).
These batteries can take 5 days to deliver which can be unacceptable when replacing a dead battery. However, this price is good.
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Quote from seawolf :
How are Amazon reviews any better than the "unfounded speculative" opinions here when the AGM products were first listed on Amazon around July 2023?

There is no long term track record for this.
A. I never said that there was a long term track record for "this"; in fact in earlier comments I said just the opposite.
Quote from my earlier comment: "They started selling automotive sizes in the US a year or so ago, best I can tell. We will only know in 4 or 5 more years how good the automotive ones are."

B. Amazon reviews are posted by ACTUAL OWNERS OF THE PRODUCT. That's how they're better.

C. I bought my Weize Group 48 AGM battery from Amazon in April of 2023 (which I can document). From Amazon's website: Date First Available March 8, 2023. How is that possible if they didn't start selling them until July?

So I've just proven the entire content of your comment to be false. Got any more unfounded speculation you want to throw my way?
Last edited by BabyBubba January 13, 2024 at 06:20 PM.
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Not true. Still most Chinese products have so many fake reviews on Amazon. Many ways to do that

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Quote from RelaxedPenguin2752 :
I like Walmart batteries also I own 3 in 3 different vehicles 1 is pushing 5 years old ,however only 1 of them is a max it's the newest of the 3 and I've had to warranty the max 3 times now. The other 2 are middle grade batteries 2nd tier work great.
Yep. I've got two of those value batteries at 4 years right now. They're still starting fine. The key is not to abuse them.

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