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PowerSmart 4400/3600 Inverter Generator $298.69

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Jan 16, 2024 01:41 AM
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Birdlawyer93Jan 16, 2024 01:41 AM
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Quote from cockadoodle :
Did you get permits and have it inspected???
My local sparkie just laughed when I asked about pulling a permit. I did get a thumbs-up on my code compliance.
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Jan 16, 2024 01:50 AM
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bajanboy5809Jan 16, 2024 01:50 AM
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Quote from sknick :
So many elements to it, definitely not an area where you want to make an impulse buy unless you have to…

First, if you're going for a whole home stationary generator with an automatic transfer switch you're starting at around $12,000 installed. About $6,000 for the unit & $6,000 for the install cost (assuming it is a simple install that doesn't require a long gas line run or electrical upgrades, then the install will probably cost more).

If you go with a portable generator instead, you'll probably want something approaching 10kw for whole home. & even that most likely won't be enough to run your AC/condenser in the summer without buying a soft start kit ($400 if you can install it yourself, more if you can't). You could also buy smaller room AC units as an alternative in an emergency & forego using central AC.

For me, the portable inverter generator with 9kW capacity was $2000. The install cost to upgrade the circuit into my house, update my electrical panel, add a 50A outdoor receptacle & an interlock kit was around $4000. So $6000 all in, but yeah you don't get automatic transfer & have to maintain & manually connect the generator when needed, keep treated gasoline on hand, perform oil changes, etc.

Also watch the warranties on the portables. Champion does 3 year warranty, some like Harbor Freight do 90 days, others do 1 year. I bought mine from AMZN with 1 year, added 3 years for low cost. I'm guessing it would be a PITA if I ever try to use the extended warranty, but I'll act like it's covered until they disappoint me.

Generatorbible is a great place to compare generators & learn in general.
Thanks for the info. I am in the midwest and almost never lost power in the summer and even if we did it wouldn't be a super big deal to not have AC unlike the winter where you have to have heat. Both neighbors next to me have the 6500 range portable ones and they did fine on Saturday so I am going to go with what they have although I kind of want to go with something in the 9000 range just in case. My neighbor is a retired engineer and his sons are electricians so they will help me wire everything up so my cost shouldn't be that bad. I learned a lot of lessons this weekend, everyone should definitely have a generator if they can. Several of my neighbors have those big fixed Generac ones but I have never had a situation where I felt like those were necessary, plus the portable ones are nice if you want to use them somewhere else or help someone. One of the neighbors was outside my house in his car while his driveway was being plowed and I knew his house used to have one of those nice fixed Generacs so I asked him about it and he asked me what I was talking about. I guess at some point one of the owners before him took it with them. He wasn't too thrilled about that, he looked defeated.
Jan 16, 2024 01:54 AM
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cockadoodleJan 16, 2024 01:54 AM
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Quote from Apk07 :
It's insanely loud for an inverter generator, that's one thing...
Thats why you get a long generator cord and put it as close to the neighbor you hate that your property line allows...
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Jan 16, 2024 10:38 PM
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gallant_suriJan 16, 2024 10:38 PM
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If not, someone already mentioned, there is no tax if you order online with power Smart site and they are offering free shipping.
Jan 17, 2024 05:21 PM
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USMCRJan 17, 2024 05:21 PM
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Quote from wallykid :
at this price, if you can wait. I recommend getting the firman refurbish unit. It goes on sale for as low as 320. Its an inverter dual fuel generator, which runs quiet and is rated for 4000W.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/31464463...BM7JekgqFj
Thanks and repped
Jan 17, 2024 10:59 PM
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skeimaticsJan 17, 2024 10:59 PM
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Quote from sknick :
So many elements to it, definitely not an area where you want to make an impulse buy unless you have to…

First, if you're going for a whole home stationary generator with an automatic transfer switch you're starting at around $12,000 installed. About $6,000 for the unit & $6,000 for the install cost (assuming it is a simple install that doesn't require a long gas line run or electrical upgrades, then the install will probably cost more).

If you go with a portable generator instead, you'll probably want something approaching 10kw for whole home. & even that most likely won't be enough to run your AC/condenser in the summer without buying a soft start kit ($400 if you can install it yourself, more if you can't). You could also buy smaller room AC units as an alternative in an emergency & forego using central AC.

For me, the portable inverter generator with 9kW capacity was $2000. The install cost to upgrade the circuit into my house, update my electrical panel, add a 50A outdoor receptacle & an interlock kit was around $4000. So $6000 all in, but yeah you don't get automatic transfer & have to maintain & manually connect the generator when needed, keep treated gasoline on hand, perform oil changes, etc.

Also watch the warranties on the portables. Champion does 3 year warranty, some like Harbor Freight do 90 days, others do 1 year. I bought mine from AMZN with 1 year, added 3 years for low cost. I'm guessing it would be a PITA if I ever try to use the extended warranty, but I'll act like it's covered until they disappoint me.

Generatorbible is a great place to compare generators & learn in general.
Which model did you go with?
Jan 17, 2024 11:07 PM
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sknickJan 17, 2024 11:07 PM
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Quote from skeimatics :
Which model did you go with?
GenMax GM9000ie

I checked into all of the different features & it made the most sense for me

It's an inverter, max 9kW, 50A plug, is quiet. Eco mode to save fuel & decent runtime. 1 year factory warranty & 3 year extended warranty through Amazon.

I would've preferred to go with Champion with 3 year factory warranty, but it think it lost out in a couple other categories.

Picking one was a frustrating effort, as it felt like no one model had every single thing I wanted. Traditional generators offer higher output, but they produce dirty power, are louder & less fuel efficient. Inverters produce lower output, but provide clean power, are quieter & are more fuel efficient (& are much more expensive).

They are offering even higher capacity inverter generators now to where you can go to 10kW & beyond (which may make them an ideal choice if the prices don't go even higher).

Generator Bible is a good site if you need to compare two or more models. They have a compare tool specifically for that purpose.
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bkiserx7Jan 20, 2024 04:05 AM
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Quote from poormanq45 :
I have neighbors with 22kw whole house generac generators in the waterproof boxes. Those things are ridiculously loud.
Jeez, by design they shouldn't be
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teetee1Jan 24, 2024 08:41 PM
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Quote from RelaxedStag572 :
I just need one that will run a refrigerator and/or electric heater so we don't freeze when power is out. Any suggestions?
It depends on the max wattage and the number of the electric heaters you need to support plus the fridge. I have a house gas furnance so I need 700w for the blow motors and the fridge plus the network equipment from the generator if the power goes out in dead winter. 2000w enclosed portable inverter generator is sufficient.

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