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HP LaserJet MFP M235dwe Wireless Monochrome Laser Printer + 6 Months Instant Ink Included $69 + Free Shipping

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" About HP LaserJet MFP M235dwe Exclusive HP+ model – Works only with Original HP Cartridges, internet connection and HP account. Includes HP+ Smart Printing System – HP+ makes this printer Smarter with advanced features for mobile printing, security, automatic updates and more. 6 months of free cartridges – Includes 6 months free subscription for Instant Ink delivery service for lasers. After 6 months, monthly fee charged automatically unless cancelled, and you'll save up to 50% on toner. Best for small businesses and home offices – Print, scan and copy high-quality black & white docs like forms, reports and business documents Fastest two-sided printing in its class – Black & white precision laser printing plus scan, copy and wireless connectivity Easy to get it all done with the HP Smart app – Simple setup that guides you through each step using HP Smart app. Print, scan and copy everyday documents from your phone—from anywhere. Get additional advanced features with HP+ in the Smart app including mobile fax and advanced scanning features such as multi-item recognition. Scan to cloud – Scan documents from your phone straight to Dropbox, Google Drive and more Ultra-fast print speeds – Print up to 30 pages per minute single-sided, up to 19 pages per minute two-sided Connectivity – Dual-band W-FiTM with self-reset automatically detects and resolves connectivity issues. Also includes Ethernet, USB port and Bluetooth®. Strong security – Built-in security features help protect your printer from potential attacks Super compact – Up to 40% smaller than competitors in its class What's in the box – HP LaserJet MFP M235dwe All-in-One Printer Original HP 134A Black Toner Cartridge Reference guide Setup poster Warranty guide Power cord
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Walmart [walmart.com] has HP LaserJet MFP M235dwe Wireless Monochrome Laser Printer with 6 Months Instant Ink Included for $69. Shipping is Free

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" About HP LaserJet MFP M235dwe Exclusive HP+ model – Works only with Original HP Cartridges, internet connection and HP account. Includes HP+ Smart Printing System – HP+ makes this printer Smarter with advanced features for mobile printing, security, automatic updates and more. 6 months of free cartridges – Includes 6 months free subscription for Instant Ink delivery service for lasers. After 6 months, monthly fee charged automatically unless cancelled, and you'll save up to 50% on toner. Best for small businesses and home offices – Print, scan and copy high-quality black & white docs like forms, reports and business documents Fastest two-sided printing in its class – Black & white precision laser printing plus scan, copy and wireless connectivity Easy to get it all done with the HP Smart app – Simple setup that guides you through each step using HP Smart app. Print, scan and copy everyday documents from your phone—from anywhere. Get additional advanced features with HP+ in the Smart app including mobile fax and advanced scanning features such as multi-item recognition. Scan to cloud – Scan documents from your phone straight to Dropbox, Google Drive and more Ultra-fast print speeds – Print up to 30 pages per minute single-sided, up to 19 pages per minute two-sided Connectivity – Dual-band W-FiTM with self-reset automatically detects and resolves connectivity issues. Also includes Ethernet, USB port and Bluetooth®. Strong security – Built-in security features help protect your printer from potential attacks Super compact – Up to 40% smaller than competitors in its class What's in the box – HP LaserJet MFP M235dwe All-in-One Printer Original HP 134A Black Toner Cartridge Reference guide Setup poster Warranty guide Power cord

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Jan 19, 2024 03:40 AM
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GigemAgJan 19, 2024 03:40 AM
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Do not buy HP, if you don't pay for instant ink, HP will disable your printer
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Jan 19, 2024 04:23 AM
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ae_zoroJan 19, 2024 04:23 AM
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oh really, they able to program like this?

Quote from GigemAg :
Do not buy HP, if you don't pay for instant ink, HP will disable your printer
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Quote from ae_zoro :
oh really, they able to program like this?
They offer these printers at discounts so as to push the Instant Ink product on you. This is a subscription based printing solution that has a monthly fee, but you don't buy cartridges separately. Part of the terms and conditions say that if you cancel instant Ink, HP can disable the instant ink cartridges that are in the printer. That does not stop somebody from buying an official HP cartridge and installing that to print outside of instant ink.

I find this to be a great deal, and I will be buying one. But I know what I'm getting into. Once the six months of free instant ink is over, I will buy a cartridge that should last me for years.
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Brother only. HP is pure evil.
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AllenT5772Jan 19, 2024 01:53 PM
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Even the aftermarket toner are pricy. Cheapest I see is 30 bucks
Jan 19, 2024 04:29 PM
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HeadyJan 19, 2024 04:29 PM
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Does anyone know if there is a limit to the 6 free months of instant ink? My small business prints roughly 2,500 pages a month.
Jan 19, 2024 05:09 PM
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elefante72Jan 19, 2024 05:09 PM
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Quote from Heady :
Does anyone know if there is a limit to the 6 free months of instant ink? My small business prints roughly 2,500 pages a month.
If you print at that volume buy a printer with no subscription, a business one w. at least 6,000 page capacity and duty cycle, and one with 3rd part toner carts that DRM has been broken on. I mean if you print at that level you should be talking to a professional printer outfit for rightsizing. In that space brother is probably your best bet or Lexmark. Also you should buy a printer w/ OPC in the cart otherwise you will get hit with huge charges for transfer/drum if they are built into the printer.
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Jan 19, 2024 05:18 PM
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elefante72Jan 19, 2024 05:18 PM
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Quote from fairplayinc :
They offer these printers at discounts so as to push the Instant Ink product on you. This is a subscription based printing solution that has a monthly fee, but you don't buy cartridges separately. Part of the terms and conditions say that if you cancel instant Ink, HP can disable the instant ink cartridges that are in the printer. That does not stop somebody from buying an official HP cartridge and installing that to print outside of instant ink.

I find this to be a great deal, and I will be buying one. But I know what I'm getting into. Once the six months of free instant ink is over, I will buy a cartridge that should last me for years.
The difference is once you buy into instant ink you not only give them a subscription but you must keep your printer connected to the internet EVEN after you stop the sub in a phone home, and that gives HP permission to update the firmware at any time and thus detect non genuine HP carts and disable them. At $70 no big deal, but if you start talking $300+ for an HP printer that is a different level of risk. This is toner which should be relatively stable and without issues (that is if you stay under sub), and w/ laser if you can get DRM free carts it is a much better deal. Ink is another story.

I am not against HP instant ink (a purist), I bought one for my mom w/ a 3 year sub (refurb) and it works well and now she pays for the lowest tier because she prints infrequently and does 4x6 photo from time to time. The ink cartridges just don't last if you don't use a lot so rather than me have to deal remotely w/ her issues if there is a problem she calls HP and they send her new carts. HP support is incompetant, and their instant ink app is crap, but if HP actually did a good job I would think more people would actually consider it because if you are a low volume printer and want archive inks for photos it is a good deal if they didn't put all these crazy expiry of pages and carry forward rules. I get why (ink ages) they should just make it more clear and upfront. You don't have to "scam" people, it's OK to be upfront and honest. I know that is not the standard in business, and well it should be. The program has merit, the execution needs improvement.

For ME no way I am buying that I have a mega tank Canon for 4x6 large format pro printers that I refill my own ink, and a color laser 2 gen back (DRM broken) where I can get LD Product toner for 80% discount to Canon and will print 6000 pages for under $30 a color (I paid $85 for CMYK a few months back). However I am a pro user, most people should be perfectly happy w/ a subscription and no fuss.
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Jan 19, 2024 06:46 PM
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The_Love_SpudJan 19, 2024 06:46 PM
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The inference I take from this thread is that there's no real workaround for these "Instant Ink subscription included" printers?

I did see that the included toner cartridge should be rated for approximately 700 pages [hp.com].

Good luck!
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Quote from ae_zoro :
oh really, they able to program like this?
https://www.reuters.com/legal/law...023-08-11/

https://www.reuters.com/legal/gov...024-01-08/
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RyanJ7344Jan 19, 2024 08:17 PM
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Quote from elefante72 :
The difference is once you buy into instant ink you not only give them a subscription but you must keep your printer connected to the internet EVEN after you stop the sub in a phone home, and that gives HP permission to update the firmware at any time and thus detect non genuine HP carts and disable them. At $70 no big deal, but if you start talking $300+ for an HP printer that is a different level of risk. This is toner which should be relatively stable and without issues (that is if you stay under sub), and w/ laser if you can get DRM free carts it is a much better deal. Ink is another story.

I am not against HP instant ink (a purist), I bought one for my mom w/ a 3 year sub (refurb) and it works well and now she pays for the lowest tier because she prints infrequently and does 4x6 photo from time to time. The ink cartridges just don't last if you don't use a lot so rather than me have to deal remotely w/ her issues if there is a problem she calls HP and they send her new carts. HP support is incompetant, and their instant ink app is crap, but if HP actually did a good job I would think more people would actually consider it because if you are a low volume printer and want archive inks for photos it is a good deal if they didn't put all these crazy expiry of pages and carry forward rules. I get why (ink ages) they should just make it more clear and upfront. You don't have to "scam" people, it's OK to be upfront and honest. I know that is not the standard in business, and well it should be. The program has merit, the execution needs improvement.

For ME no way I am buying that I have a mega tank Canon for 4x6 large format pro printers that I refill my own ink, and a color laser 2 gen back (DRM broken) where I can get LD Product toner for 80% discount to Canon and will print 6000 pages for under $30 a color (I paid $85 for CMYK a few months back). However I am a pro user, most people should be perfectly happy w/ a subscription and no fuss.
The thing is the $300+ HP / office / enterprise printers do not require instant ink or internet connections.

Basically you are trading your data for a subsidized printer. I'm OK with it. If you are not, there are full lines of HP Printers available that do not have this requirement.

It would be nice if HP made a easy designation in the model number to identify these printers. I believe typically the model ends with the letter E , but not always.
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elefante72Jan 19, 2024 08:38 PM
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Quote from RyanJ7344 :
The thing is the $300+ HP / office / enterprise printers do not require instant ink or internet connections.

Basically you are trading your data for a subsidized printer. I'm OK with it. If you are not, there are full lines of HP Printers available that do not have this requirement.

It would be nice if HP made a easy designation in the model number to identify these printers. I believe typically the model ends with the letter E , but not always.
That is why I suggested a commercial version but even so the DRM in those HP printers is quite aggressive so I tend to stay away from them now.

Actually none of the HP printers require you to sign up for Instant Ink (at least as of last year) but if you do you have set the printer down the doom path of the SaaS vampire. I don't think the plans are bad tho, I would say they are pretty good for the home user. The toner one is even better. My issue w/ the instant ink is once you sign up the printer is under phone home forever. If you unsubscribe, they should kill the cart and call it a day if you want to use 3rd party ink. Not require phone home forever to try and brutishly discourage 3rd party ink, so I do not buy these for me out of principle. I used to love HP printers.

https://www.hp.com/us-en/printers...ility.html

Click check my printer to see which ones are Instant Ink compatible.
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Jan 20, 2024 01:46 AM
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jfb.44Jan 20, 2024 01:46 AM
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Pass on this. There's a youtube review stating an internet connection is needed every time the printer is used in order to be validated by HP.
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flyingroachJan 20, 2024 11:46 AM
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Quote from fairplayinc :
They offer these printers at discounts so as to push the Instant Ink product on you. This is a subscription based printing solution that has a monthly fee, but you don't buy cartridges separately. Part of the terms and conditions say that if you cancel instant Ink, HP can disable the instant ink cartridges that are in the printer. That does not stop somebody from buying an official HP cartridge and installing that to print outside of instant ink.

I find this to be a great deal, and I will be buying one. But I know what I'm getting into. Once the six months of free instant ink is over, I will buy a cartridge that should last me for years.
I don't know if you sign up for HP+ you can suddenly stop paying monthly?

I think even the 6 months of ink isn't worth as much since normally toner can print 1000 pages, maybe starter carts even over 600 pages.

For normal people this is a year of printing or more.

If buy this just don't allow this printer to automatically update firmware, don't agree to HP+ login or anything. Then just print using the starter carts.

Not sure how long this will work but I rolled the dice for recent SD refurbished HP.

I turned on printer, used screen to setup. Can hit question mark and cancel at got to HP QR code. Then I turned off auto updates and connected to WiFi using screen on printer.

I also setup on Mac PC Chromebook manually, no HP AIO installer. Doing it this way I never got a sign up message. Heck it even scans print on windows 7 classroom PC.

It prints and scans without any HP login so far

I needed to install starter carts or machine wouldn't setup. Then I put generic ink back in.

I'll see how long it allows generic ink to print. It was $33 with coupon for no name Amazon XL ink all colors and black.

It does see these are "altered and not genuine" but all works perfectly. I fear HP will try to update firmware at some point but I've not set firewall to stop and don't want to use USB.

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