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14TB WD Ultrastar DC HC530 SATA 6G 3.5" 7200 RPM Enterprise HDD (Refurbished)

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goHardDrive via Newegg has 14TB WD Ultrastar DC HC530 SATA 6G 3.5" 7200 RPM Enterprise Internal Hard Drive (WUH721414ALE604, Refurbished) on sale for $109.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to staff member DesertGardener for finding this deal.

Product Features:
  • Helium-filled hard drive
  • 3.5-inch form factor
  • HelioSeal process and 7StacTM design are keys to hermetically sealed drive with higher capacity
  • TCOptimized design delivers on key elements of data center TCO: capacity, power, cooling and storage density
  • SAS & SATA 6Gb/s models for configuration flexibility

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  • About this Deal:
    • This price matches a recent Frontpage Deal.
    • Priced at ~$7.86 per TB of storage space.
  • About this Store:
    • Refer to goHardDrive return policy (90 days)
    • goHardDrive via Newegg has a 4.8 star rating based on over 8900 customer feedback.

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goHardDrive via Newegg has 14TB WD Ultrastar DC HC530 SATA 6G 3.5" 7200 RPM Enterprise Internal Hard Drive (WUH721414ALE604, Refurbished) on sale for $109.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to staff member DesertGardener for finding this deal.

Product Features:
  • Helium-filled hard drive
  • 3.5-inch form factor
  • HelioSeal process and 7StacTM design are keys to hermetically sealed drive with higher capacity
  • TCOptimized design delivers on key elements of data center TCO: capacity, power, cooling and storage density
  • SAS & SATA 6Gb/s models for configuration flexibility

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake
  • About this Deal:
    • This price matches a recent Frontpage Deal.
    • Priced at ~$7.86 per TB of storage space.
  • About this Store:
    • Refer to goHardDrive return policy (90 days)
    • goHardDrive via Newegg has a 4.8 star rating based on over 8900 customer feedback.

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Jan 26, 2024 10:23 PM
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RezerJan 26, 2024 10:23 PM
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Quote from pftomo :
I just got my two drives from this order and both have 37,000 hours on them so I will probably return. In comparison, the two drives I bought from Serverpartdeals last year have 8200 hours on them after running in my NAS for almost a year.
So you bought drives advertised as being used for roughly 5 years before being pulled from a datacenter, and you're going to return them because the SMART data says they were used for 4 years and 3 months?

And your other drives that had the SMART data cleared now show they've been in use for a year, one year after you installed them?

You don't say... Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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Jan 26, 2024 10:25 PM
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Jan 26, 2024 10:36 PM
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MWinkJan 26, 2024 10:36 PM
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Quote from luckydog97 :
Unless you're running them in RAID 1, I'd seriously reconsider the value of potentially losing large amounts of data should a drive fail. That's the REAL cost of a failure that no warranty can compensate you for.

Even then, I'd trust a single brand new high quality drive over two of these with RAID redundancy.

Not worth it.
That is an absurd take. One should never trust any single drive with the sole copy of any valuable data. Even just two copies is a bad idea.

Quote from eurhmhom :
At 2.5M hours MTBF, 4 years of uptime means you still have around 281 years left before predictive failure. I understand that doesn't mean it will actually last that long, but odds are, 4 years uptime with minimal power ups and downs doesn't age out a drive that much.
That is NOT what MTBF indicates. It is of no value for single (or a small number of) drives. It is only relevant for those using huge quantities of drives (like thousands).
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Jan 26, 2024 10:39 PM
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lastwraithJan 26, 2024 10:39 PM
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Quote from DraconianMeasures :
Would you buy a 20 year old car at 250 thousand miles for half the price of new? Then why do people buy refurbished hard drives likely run for 5 years, which is their supposed lifespan, for a half of the price of new?
These are enterprise drives, they're barely broken in. Especially since they won't have many start/stop cycles on them. You don't like them, that's fine. More discounts for those of us with storage arrays and proper backups. No drive is trustworthy enough to contain your sole copy of important data. Just because the original warranty expires after 5 years doesn't mean the item will die. That's ridiculous logic.
Would you buy a 10 year old Corolla with 100k miles on it for approximately half price? Because plenty of people are buying them for well above half of original MSRP right now.
We have enterprise PCs at work that shipped with 3 year warranties. They will operate for 5-10 years on average before needing to be retired simply because they're no longer suitable for the tasks. Product lifespan isn't determined by warranty.
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Jan 26, 2024 10:44 PM
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lastwraithJan 26, 2024 10:44 PM
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Quote from DraconianMeasures :
Would you buy a 20 year old car at 250 thousand miles for half the price of new? Then why do people buy refurbished hard drives likely run for 5 years, which is their supposed lifespan, for a half of the price of new?
How many cars have a 20 year, 250k mile warranty? Ridiculous comparison.
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Jan 26, 2024 10:50 PM
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lethalJan 26, 2024 10:50 PM
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Quote from Mysterio69 :
Those spinning drives always break. I busted 4 or 5. They only lasted a few years and you lose everything on em.
I have run thousands of drives in my life. I've run datacenters and swapped more 73 and 146 GB drives way back in the day. I have not seen failure rates you are talking about from the bgi four manufacturers unless we're talking a manufaturing defect. I'm not saying you are lying, but drives at these prices, it makes zero sense not to RAID them up and use the warranty. Always have a space drive on the shelf to swap out. Simple.

I hope with those failure rates you have been able to backup your data and not lose it.
Jan 26, 2024 10:55 PM
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DraconianMeasuresJan 26, 2024 10:55 PM
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Quote from lastwraith :
How many cars have a 20 year, 250k mile warranty? Ridiculous comparison.
I was comparing their useful lifespans, a hard drive is actually only got a five year useful span of no failure... Cars last a lot longer than there warrant because only parts fail and are repaired, at a cost. But hard drives don't get repaired(usually) they just go fully dead. The warranty for the car that you are considering to be the comparison is only the chances of having to fix a few expensive parts not the whole thing crapping out....
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Jan 26, 2024 11:25 PM
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SuncatcherJan 26, 2024 11:25 PM
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Quote from korpo53 :
JBODs are typically pretty terrible, especially if you're setting a low price ceiling. Buy a good NAS or build your own.
Thanks for responding. About NAS, I have low powered laptop with 16GB of RAM and 4 external drives hooked up to it. But thise externals are only 5TB each nd I want to go higher so I thought I get a JBOD and connect to this laptop which is on my network and streams well. But I didn't want to spend more, is there anyway I can make this set up into a day NAS? I google but got confused, I'm a noob, and. Bunch of people told em to just attach a jbod
Jan 26, 2024 11:27 PM
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RezerJan 26, 2024 11:27 PM
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Quote from DraconianMeasures :
Would you buy a 20 year old car at 250 thousand miles for half the price of new? Then why do people buy refurbished hard drives likely run for 5 years, which is their supposed lifespan, for a half of the price of new?
Why are you equating a 5 year old drive with a 20 year old car? You do understand the MTBF of a car's engine would be a couple orders of magnitude lower than that of an enterprise hard drive, right?

And to answer your question, this particular drive after 3 years of use has an AFR of only about 0.3%. After 5 years that will be higher, but not by much, maybe 2-3% worst case. A drive failure is usually not catastrophic in nature, but even assuming it was as long as you have some redundancy it's a matter of swapping in a new drive.

So let's run with that 3% figure, and assume I have 5 drives in a raid 6 setup with two parity drives, and just for giggles let's say the AFR goes up by 1% every year. So, each year I expect to have needed this many drives replaced (cumulative, not per year).

1 year: 0.15 drives
2 years: 0.35 drives
3 years: .6 drives
4 years: 0.9 drives
5 years: 1.25 drives

This is an absolute worse case scenario and it's even odds I don't see a drive failure until nearly 3 years out. And would you look at that, the drive's still under warranty and thanks to the raid setup no data was lost. After 5 years, you're looking at 1 drive out of 5 likely failing by that point, but you saved 50% on the cost of the drives up front so who even cares.

Seems like a fair trade over buying them new, where you'd still need at least one parity drive unless you enjoy gambling with your data.
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madshakesJan 26, 2024 11:28 PM
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i've had 2 of these go bad after a few months use. drive health dropped to 53% and had to rma. got em from serverpartdeals. is it just me?
Last edited by madshakes January 26, 2024 at 03:36 PM.
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KingUltraJan 26, 2024 11:44 PM
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If anyone is looking for new drives at these prices, you can find MDD on Amazon or Ebay. NO iDEA about reliability.
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cdurthJan 26, 2024 11:45 PM
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Quote from DreamerbyDesign :
This is an ok deal. Nothing to rush about. They've been cheaper. I will say goharddrive is great about their warranty. It is 5 years and they do back it up. They replace or refund.

It won't be unusual to see 3-5 years of continuous use hours on these but usually low power on cycles. Very reliable and solid hard drives.
Where should i be looking to keep an eye out for the real slick deals?
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Quote from ViciousXUSMC :
Or for 2x the price (buying two) you can just get a brand new 14TB drive.
That is what I would do personally.

I feel like these should be much cheaper given they are used hard disks, and age/usage is exactly what matters with drives.

This is for someone who doesnt have the budget for new disks and needs a lot of storage for a NAS and is OK with the hassles and time sink that is replacing and rebuilding the array when one fails.

Since time is money, that is not me lol.
New drives also fail.
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lastwraithJan 27, 2024 12:36 AM
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Quote from DraconianMeasures :
I was comparing their useful lifespans, a hard drive is actually only got a five year useful span of no failure... Cars last a lot longer than there warrant because only parts fail and are repaired, at a cost. But hard drives don't get repaired(usually) they just go fully dead. The warranty for the car that you are considering to be the comparison is only the chances of having to fix a few expensive parts not the whole thing crapping out....
Your metric for an HDD lifespan seems to be the warranty period, which is silly. Most retail drives get a few years of warranty but last far longer. Enterprise drives get longer warranties but also tend to last much longer. It's not a good way to base "lifespan".

As for cars lasting longer than their warranty, yes, they usually do. But for people looking to replace an engine (see Subaru and Toyota with oil consumption issues where there's no cheap part to replace) or transmission problems out of warranty (see basically any major transmission problem, doubly so for CVTs), fairly often that means time for a new car.

So I still greatly disagree. Warranties are only a marginal commentary on the useful life of the object.
Last edited by lastwraith January 26, 2024 at 04:41 PM.
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