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1 Troy Ounce Gold Bar PAMP Suisse Lady Fortuna Veriscan (New In Assay)

(Costco Members) + Free Shipping

$2,070

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Costco Wholesale has for its Members: 1 Troy Ounce Gold Bar PAMP Suisse Lady Fortuna Veriscan (New In Assay) for $2069.99. Shipping is free.

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Note, you must be an active Costco Member signed into your account to view sale price and purchase. Limit of 2 per membership. Item is non-refundable. Item is not eligible for price adjustments.

About this Product:
  • 1 Troy Ounce 999.9 fine gold minted bar with a proof-like finish 
  • Swiss-made by a LBMA Good Delivery Refiner
  • VERISCAN Bullion Identification Security System & iPhone App 
  • Carbon Neutral certified by the Carbon Trust in accordance with the international PAS 2060 Carbon Neutrality Standard, identified by a 'footprint' label
  • Each bar is individually controlled, registered, and secured within protective CertiPAMP packaging with an official Assay Certificate and a digital certificate accessed with a QR Code. Each assay card is covered with a thin removable protective film
Veriscan Technology:
  • PAMP Suisse's exclusive Veriscan technology uses the metal's microscopic topography, like a fingerprint, to identify any registered product, aiding in the detection of counterfeits. Each bar is scanned upon production and when scanned by the customer, is further verified by the Veriscan database. Veriscan is available as a creative and convenient mobile app, or as a PC software system for use with a traditional document scanner and the PAMP bullion-positioning frame.

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Costco Wholesale has for its Members: 1 Troy Ounce Gold Bar PAMP Suisse Lady Fortuna Veriscan (New In Assay) for $2069.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks community member chemman14 for sharing this deal

Note, you must be an active Costco Member signed into your account to view sale price and purchase. Limit of 2 per membership. Item is non-refundable. Item is not eligible for price adjustments.

About this Product:
  • 1 Troy Ounce 999.9 fine gold minted bar with a proof-like finish 
  • Swiss-made by a LBMA Good Delivery Refiner
  • VERISCAN Bullion Identification Security System & iPhone App 
  • Carbon Neutral certified by the Carbon Trust in accordance with the international PAS 2060 Carbon Neutrality Standard, identified by a 'footprint' label
  • Each bar is individually controlled, registered, and secured within protective CertiPAMP packaging with an official Assay Certificate and a digital certificate accessed with a QR Code. Each assay card is covered with a thin removable protective film
Veriscan Technology:
  • PAMP Suisse's exclusive Veriscan technology uses the metal's microscopic topography, like a fingerprint, to identify any registered product, aiding in the detection of counterfeits. Each bar is scanned upon production and when scanned by the customer, is further verified by the Veriscan database. Veriscan is available as a creative and convenient mobile app, or as a PC software system for use with a traditional document scanner and the PAMP bullion-positioning frame.

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nahsay
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You returned it against the clearly stated policy because it dropped, what, like $10? You know the price of gold will fluctuate, right?

Sometimes I wish Costco wasn't so lenient and stood firm a little. You're just taking advantage.
ChintzyNips
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you're just the worst person
nahsay
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Maybe I'm being naive but I find this hard to believe.

Something like this being shipped and Costco wouldn't have double and triple checks in place to ensure the product is going out correctly?

And they are shipping overnight with signature required via UPS. I know sometimes the delivery person might be faking a customer's signature and leaving it at the door but that's not the norm.

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kromixFeb 10, 2024 03:22 AM
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Quote from ZeroKelvin :
Lol. How does your gold dealer make money if they are paying you spot for gold? The highest they would be able to unload that 20 oz would be at spot so they are paying you what they turn around and sell it for. Doesn't seem like a good business model. Your local gold dealer will pay you 5% below spot so they can stay in business. You will always take a hit when selling your gold.

Also, why would they buy your gold at the same price they could buy gold from a reputable gold source? Yeah, I can buy gold from some guy off the street or a business that guarantees weight/purity for the exact same price. I think I'm gonna help this random dude out because he is acting the part.
Quote from SlySol :
You clearly aren't very familiar with the gold market. There will always be a margin there, but many dealers will pay spot for the 1 oz bars because they always sell them for over spot. Plenty of people in these threads have sold their bars at spot, although obviously it can be less depending on the local market. The spot price of gold is based on the price per ounce of a 100 oz bar. There's always a premium over spot for the 1 oz bars and coins at any reputable retailer.

To Echo SlySol, you clearly aren't familiar with gold markets so I don't get why you come in here speaking as though you have any idea what you are talking about?

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The highest they would be able to unload that 20 oz would be at spot
1st, There's not a dealer on this planet that sells PAMP fortuna bars at spot. If so, let me know who and where.
2nd, not only is there no dealer who sells at spot, no dealer takes CREDIT CARD at 0% fee for payment.
3rd, theres no dealer on this planet that has an in-house executive gold buyer reward system that gives you 2% cash back on-top of allowing you to pay with the credit card of your choice.

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Also, why would they buy your gold at the same price they could buy gold from a reputable gold source? Yeah, I can buy gold from some guy off the street or a business that guarantees weight/purity for the exact same price.
Uhh, Gold dealers can't go to Costco like we all do and place a large pamp order because you can only order 2 per person, nor do they buy in large quantities enough to contact refineries (ie:costco) to buy in bulk to not have to buy from people like us.

As for me and my "method" of acting the part, I'm bringing 20 ounces of gold per month to him and he knows EXACTLY where im getting it from, I even told him after I negotiated spot pricing the first couple sales, because what does it matter to me, he can't get enough of it on his own anyway he will still buy from me.


For me, I get Pamp bars dirt cheap, get 2% executive rewards at costco, and either AA Miles/Loyalty Points or I use my BOA 2.625% cashback. From a purely cashback perspective, I'm getting 4.625% cashback. I'm in the green or even all day every day.

Do the math, for ease of calculation I'm using purely cashback to calculate as everyone values miles/status differently:

$2,069.99 for 1oz Spot Pamp
-$95.74 (4.625% cashback)
=$1974.25 NET COST delivered to my door.

CURRENT SPOT PRICE: $2037.40

If I sell at a 2% under spot = I'm still in the green.

What's so confusing about this? Nobody is getting filthy rich here, and I'm not doing it for purely cashback, honestly wouldn't be worth my time, but those AA miles and Executive Platinum status for my flights sure as hell is when I take a flight to Tokyo for free in business for 60k miles.

How I see it is 14 Costco Orders and drop offs to my gold dealer = 1 Business Class Ticket to Tokyo and Executive Platinum Status. How others see it that don't naturally spend a lot, a free/cheap way to get CC bonuses, bonus spending categories etc. for very little work.
Last edited by kromix February 9, 2024 at 07:35 PM.
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Feb 10, 2024 03:30 AM
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PgaFeb 10, 2024 03:30 AM
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0-4.6% profit on $2k is horrible ROI
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kromixFeb 10, 2024 03:37 AM
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Quote from Pga :
0-4.6% profit on $2k is horrible ROI
Again, you guys are stuck on ROI. Not sure when slickdeals became an ROI farm, is everyone on here buying high profit products and reselling on ebay or am I missing something?

1) This is on a credit card, so its free money. No money is being allocated that could be better allocated in the markets. I can't buy stocks with my credit card limits. If I had to wire for the gold like u do with most dealers, then yes, terrible ROI.

That's the magic sauce here, Credit Card accepted at 0% fee and an additional free 2% reward from coscto to boot. Can't buy gold anywhere else on a credit card with 0% fee/markup, prove me wrong.

2) This isn't a ROI get rich quick scheme play. It's purely CC churning with minor profits to get Miles/Status/CC Bonuses etc.
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Feb 10, 2024 03:44 AM
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Quote from kromix :
Again, you guys are stuck on ROI. Not sure when slickdeals became an ROI farm, is everyone on here buying high profit products and reselling on ebay or am I missing something?

1) This is on a credit card, so its free money. No money is being allocated that could be better allocated in the markets. I can't buy stocks with my credit card limits. If I had to wire for the gold like u do with most dealers, then yes, terrible ROI.

That's the magic sauce here, Credit Card accepted at 0% fee and an additional free 2% reward from coscto to boot. Can't buy gold anywhere else on a credit card with 0% fee/markup, prove me wrong.

2) This isn't a ROI get rich quick scheme play. It's purely CC churning with minor profits to get Miles/Status/CC Bonuses etc.
When it's about flipping for financial benefit then it's totally about ROI. And 0-4.6% is absolutely crap.

You can get 2-3X that cashback just buying your everyday stuff online…
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Feb 10, 2024 03:49 AM
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kromixFeb 10, 2024 03:49 AM
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Quote from Pga :
When it's about flipping for financial benefit then it's totally about ROI. And 0-4.6% is absolutely crap.

You can get 2-3X that cashback just buying your everyday stuff online…
Confused You lost me. How is that the same, this is manufactured spend not flipping for profits. "just buying your everyday stuff online" means spending real money for random shit.

This is getting 20-30k a month in manufactured spend that cycles through a credit card limit that otherwise sits dormant netting me and others 2% cash back and 20-30k a month in miles and status perks and all I have to do is walk into my local dealer once a month and drop it off, I use $0 of my money and payoff my credit card with the proceeds and repeat. This has nothing to do with ROI.
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Feb 10, 2024 04:00 AM
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Quote from kromix :
Confused You lost me. How is that the same, this is manufactured spend not flipping for profits. "just buying your everyday stuff online" means spending real money for random shit.

This is getting 20-30k a month in manufactured spend that cycles through a credit card limit that otherwise sits dormant netting me and others 2% cash back and 20-30k a month in miles and status perks and all I have to do is walk into my local dealer once a month and drop it off, I use $0 of my money and payoff my credit card with the proceeds and repeat. This has nothing to do with ROI.
Any flipping can be considered "manufactured spending"

All you are doing is buying just to re-sell it at overall profit.

So ROI is rather fundamental concept in flipping. And 0-4.6% is horrible RIO on $2k
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HelloClemFandangoFeb 10, 2024 06:07 AM
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No thanks. Bitcoin is way better in every way
My bitcoin portfolio is my happy place.
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HelloClemFandangoFeb 10, 2024 06:13 AM
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Not for the environment. [wikipedia.org]
Do you know how much of the environment is destroyed in gold mining? I bet you don't, because you don't care about the environment. I guess because Wall Street has embraced Bitcoin you guys have to now pretend to care about the environment. Thanks for the laugh. I just made 2k while I was sleeping thanks to Bitcoin btw.
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Quote from kromix :
Huh??? I'm doing over 20k consistently all month every month what are you talking about?

You do know they release a mix of bars, coins, and sizes right? I'm easily clearing 20k a month. I'm Executive Platinum on AA with 780k loyalty points this year thanks to this. I don't think I can do that with $100 bulky lawn mowers.

Sometimes they release bars worth $6300, so one order alone is $12k, with the average order being $4200 at least 5-6 times a month on the low end you do the math, I'm doing 20k a month with my eyes closed I'm blowing past that.

So in your example, I can buy 60 huge mowers put them all over my house (assuming I can even buy 60 of them) and then become an eBay mower reseller and make a bunch of trips to the ups store to ship them? I mean it sounds like a great setup for a low income gig earner for a side hustle I guess but that's a shit ton of work and storage space.

I'm putting 20k+ sometimes over 30k worth of tiny little gold bars delivered to my house and then I drop them off at one place once a month and all 20-30k++ worth fit inside my tiny Fanny pack…. Talking about ROT, "return on time" compared to those lawn mowers. I hope you rented a U-Haul for the month and a storage unit so your wife doesn't kill you for having lawn mowers in the kitchen pantry!!

I'm signing off, it was fun, but your examples are ridiculous and you have no bearing on either the gold markets or the Costco gold sales, because I'm easily clearing $20,000 USD in gold and many are too.
I find it funny that after I show you cash making slick deal, with 80% ROI, which is lot better than 0-4.6% in cashback you are doing on Gold......you quickly switch to airline points.

Let's review your claim that you "earned" 780k points on "$20-30k" a month Costo Gold purchases..... At maximum you could have earned 360k points in a year since AA Loyalty points are 1 per $1 spent. Unless you have your loyal points scattered around on dozens on cards in order to get multiple MIN spend into offers. Utility of those points become pretty poor at that point as you cannot combine them to say get free vacation in Hawaii. You end up having to spend money to use those points, making it even poorer deal that the 0-4.6% ROI you were proposing earlier.

So I suspect if you aren't honest about what flipping Gold for points or cashback, and you cannot do both in a single transaction, you aren't honest about being able to get 20-30k gold from Costco. Everyone likes to boast and make wild claims on the internet.
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Feb 10, 2024 03:08 PM
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Quote from HelloClemFandango :
Do you know how much of the environment is destroyed in gold mining? I bet you don't, because you don't care about the environment. I guess because Wall Street has embraced Bitcoin you guys have to now pretend to care about the environment. Thanks for the laugh. I just made 2k while I was sleeping thanks to Bitcoin btw.
How did you make $2k while sleeping on Bitcoin?
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SlySolFeb 10, 2024 03:55 PM
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Quote from kromix :
Huh??? I'm doing over 20k consistently all month every month what are you talking about?

You do know they release a mix of bars, coins, and sizes right? I'm easily clearing 20k a month. I'm Executive Platinum on AA with 780k loyalty points this year thanks to this. I don't think I can do that with $100 bulky lawn mowers.

Sometimes they release bars worth $6300, so one order alone is $12k, with the average order being $4200 at least 5-6 times a month on the low end you do the math, I'm doing 20k a month with my eyes closed I'm blowing past that.

So in your example, I can buy 60 huge mowers put them all over my house (assuming I can even buy 60 of them) and then become an eBay mower reseller and make a bunch of trips to the ups store to ship them? I mean it sounds like a great setup for a low income gig earner for a side hustle I guess but that's a shit ton of work and storage space.

I'm putting 20k+ sometimes over 30k worth of tiny little gold bars delivered to my house and then I drop them off at one place once a month and all 20-30k++ worth fit inside my tiny Fanny pack…. Talking about ROT, "return on time" compared to those lawn mowers. I hope you rented a U-Haul for the month and a storage unit so your wife doesn't kill you for having lawn mowers in the kitchen pantry!!

I'm signing off, it was fun, but your examples are ridiculous and you have no bearing on either the gold markets or the Costco gold sales, because I'm easily clearing $20,000 USD in gold and many are too.
Like I said … forever. It's like banging your head against the wall there. Big Grin
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kromixFeb 10, 2024 04:42 PM
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Quote from SlySol :
Like I said … forever. It's like banging your head against the wall there. Big Grin

you were right. his examples are pretty terrible. $200 lawnmowers!!!!Applause
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HuadongFFeb 10, 2024 04:46 PM
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Why am I always seeing it being out of stock?
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TheStev0Feb 10, 2024 04:55 PM
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Late to the game I realize, but serious question for next time....

For resale value, is it important to keep it in the package? I'm thinking of an investment/fidget use case. Possibly an expensive and idiotic idea, but it's heavier than Tungsten and holds its value. Assuming it's not stolen first....

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Sockey01Feb 10, 2024 05:50 PM
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Quote from kromix :
To Echo SlySol, you clearly aren't familiar with gold markets so I don't get why you come in here speaking as though you have any idea what you are talking about?



1st, There's not a dealer on this planet that sells PAMP fortuna bars at spot. If so, let me know who and where.
2nd, not only is there no dealer who sells at spot, no dealer takes CREDIT CARD at 0% fee for payment.
3rd, theres no dealer on this planet that has an in-house executive gold buyer reward system that gives you 2% cash back on-top of allowing you to pay with the credit card of your choice.



Uhh, Gold dealers can't go to Costco like we all do and place a large pamp order because you can only order 2 per person, nor do they buy in large quantities enough to contact refineries (ie:costco) to buy in bulk to not have to buy from people like us.

As for me and my "method" of acting the part, I'm bringing 20 ounces of gold per month to him and he knows EXACTLY where im getting it from, I even told him after I negotiated spot pricing the first couple sales, because what does it matter to me, he can't get enough of it on his own anyway he will still buy from me.


For me, I get Pamp bars dirt cheap, get 2% executive rewards at costco, and either AA Miles/Loyalty Points or I use my BOA 2.625% cashback. From a purely cashback perspective, I'm getting 4.625% cashback. I'm in the green or even all day every day.

Do the math, for ease of calculation I'm using purely cashback to calculate as everyone values miles/status differently:

$2,069.99 for 1oz Spot Pamp
-$95.74 (4.625% cashback)
=$1974.25 NET COST delivered to my door.

CURRENT SPOT PRICE: $2037.40

If I sell at a 2% under spot = I'm still in the green.

What's so confusing about this? Nobody is getting filthy rich here, and I'm not doing it for purely cashback, honestly wouldn't be worth my time, but those AA miles and Executive Platinum status for my flights sure as hell is when I take a flight to Tokyo for free in business for 60k miles.

How I see it is 14 Costco Orders and drop offs to my gold dealer = 1 Business Class Ticket to Tokyo and Executive Platinum Status. How others see it that don't naturally spend a lot, a free/cheap way to get CC bonuses, bonus spending categories etc. for very little work.
I purchased second one based on the similar calculation and thought we can get 5.25% CB on BOA card. But I plan to keep it as a collection.
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