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expirediconian | Staff posted Feb 13, 2024 10:41 PM
(refurb) Panasonic G100 Mirrorless Camera + 12-32mm F3.5-5.6 Lens $399 + free s/h
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To really enjoy it, you need to own decent primes like the f/1.4 Sigmas. Having a nice little optically stabilized lens would enable better handheld stills or videography depending on what you choose.
Sample photo from it was being used as a backup camera.
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Canon's first APS-C sensor RF mount cameras were the R10 and R7 which are both pretty amazing and offered significant autofocus improvements over the older EOS M models. Later on Canon released the R100 and R50. While the R50 uses modern tech and is a good entry point into Canon's new mirrorless line, the R100 is basically a cheapened out M50 Mark II. Uses the older sensor & processor but has a fixed non-touch screen and slower fps compared to the faster fps for continuous shooting of the M50 which also has a fully articulating touch screen.
All that to say that the R100 is decent but its rather lacking compared to the R50 or R10, although image quality won't be much different. Canon also has been putting the refurb R100 with 18-45mm kit lens on sale at $329 several times in recent months. At $329 its a decent deal, but I wouldn't pay $399 for it refurbished.
Personally if you are looking for around this price point and were to go Canon I'd either:
1. Get an R10 refurbished whenever it goes on sale again. The $499-549 price point Canon has had that at in recent sales (with 18-45mm kit lens) is really good given the camera's capabilities. If it goes on sale also check the price of it with the superior 18-150mm lens. The price with that kit hasn't been as competitive but always a chance future sales are better on it.
2. Look on eBay for lightly used R100 dual lens kits. You can probably get one for around $425 from a couple different sellers who are probably selling returns. One of them is hotdigital-international who has it priced at $459.95, but will accept offers a bit lower or send you offers after you watch their items for awhile. The 55-210mm lens is expensive if you buy it separately, but its a good deal if you can snag the R100 dual lens kit around $425.
So back the actual comparison with the Panasonic G100, I also wouldn't really want to pay $399 for the refurbished it. A lot of these hit eBay after Target put them on clearance for cheap last Fall and although the supply is lower now, you can do better on eBay if you watch for G100 listings. I'd buy something else for $399. Honestly my main complaint on it personally is its one of the least comfortable to hold cameras, at least to my hands. It's heavier than you'd expect given the size and it just feels awkward and unbalanced to me. It was marketed towards vloggers but really is more useful as a compact stills camera as the vlogging abilities are lackluster.
The biggest advantages of the G100 though are 1) the included lens is much better than the disappointing 18-45mm Canon kit lens.2) Micro four thirds lens selection is many times better and generally more affordable as well. You can buy an adapter for the R100 to use Canon DSLR lenses but its even more awkward using an adapter with larger DSLR lenses on such a small lightweight body.
With the limited lens selection its especially problematic that the Canon APS-C kit lens isn't great. Personally I'm still using my M50 Mark II more still. Even if it too has a limited lens selection, its better what is available for the newer lens mount currently. Canon hasn't really put much effort at all into RF-S lenses, choosing to focus on larger and more expensive full frame mirrorless lenses.
If buying Panasonic I'd rather look for a lightly used G95, G9, G85, or GX85. The G95 and G9 use the same 20mp sensor as the G100 and are preferable but a little more expensive. The G85 and GX85 use the older 16mp sensor. G95, G9, and G85 are generally sold in a kit with a 12-60mm lens while the GX85 more often comes with the same 12-32mm pancake lens as the G100 and often a 45-150mm telephoto lens.
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I think the best camera is the one that serves a distinct purpose and reminds you to take more photos. Yes, phones can take better photos these days but it lacks manual controls and intentionality.
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