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forum threadDANlMALZ posted Feb 16, 2024 07:31 PM
forum threadDANlMALZ posted Feb 16, 2024 07:31 PM

20TB (two 10 TB plans) | 10TB Lifetime Cloud Storage from pCloud - $1290 | $890

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Wife and I are losing access to our unlimited Google drive storage later this spring and have been looking for cloud storage to backup our data. pCloud gets some mixed reviews amongst datahoarders, some people have had their lifetime accounts disabled when they store copyrighted material on their drives, while others have had their accounts for years with zero issues. There are also slow upload speeds when using the backup feature on computer client, around 2-5MB/s, while uploading through their web client I was seeing 30-50MB/s speeds. Also some speculation on their lifetime model being sustainable, but they also do offer monthly or yearly plans. It's lifetime of the company kind of plan, not the lifetime of the customer.

With that out of the way, their 10TB plan is on sale for $890. The real list price is around $1300. They offered me a promotion where you buy 10TB plan, you get another 10TB plan for free, and that ended up costing us $1290.

This is a reputable enough company that's been in business since 2015, own all their servers in Luxembourg and Dallas. I'm hoping to get at least 4+ years of storage with them, ideally a lot longer, and the upfront cost will have been worth it.
Two 10TB plans (promo code emailed for the 2nd plan, will expire in 30 days if not claimed) - $1290 [pcloud.com]
One 10TB plan $890 [pcloud.com]
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Wife and I are losing access to our unlimited Google drive storage later this spring and have been looking for cloud storage to backup our data. pCloud gets some mixed reviews amongst datahoarders, some people have had their lifetime accounts disabled when they store copyrighted material on their drives, while others have had their accounts for years with zero issues. There are also slow upload speeds when using the backup feature on computer client, around 2-5MB/s, while uploading through their web client I was seeing 30-50MB/s speeds. Also some speculation on their lifetime model being sustainable, but they also do offer monthly or yearly plans. It's lifetime of the company kind of plan, not the lifetime of the customer.

With that out of the way, their 10TB plan is on sale for $890. The real list price is around $1300. They offered me a promotion where you buy 10TB plan, you get another 10TB plan for free, and that ended up costing us $1290.

This is a reputable enough company that's been in business since 2015, own all their servers in Luxembourg and Dallas. I'm hoping to get at least 4+ years of storage with them, ideally a lot longer, and the upfront cost will have been worth it.
Two 10TB plans (promo code emailed for the 2nd plan, will expire in 30 days if not claimed) - $1290 [pcloud.com]
One 10TB plan $890 [pcloud.com]

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Feb 16, 2024 07:51 PM
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lorchaFeb 16, 2024 07:51 PM
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pCloud gets some mixed reviews amongst datahoarders, some people have had their lifetime accounts disabled when they store copyrighted material on their drives
Or adult content. Basically, if you upload even a single copyrighted or adult file, they'll nuke your "lifetime" account without warning and without the opportunity to correct the problem by deleting the offending material.

If that works for you, then great! Personally, I'd rather they just delete the prohibited file(s) and send the "lifetime" customer a notification. But anyway, that's how they handle those "lifetime" accounts.
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luk350Feb 16, 2024 07:55 PM
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Or adult content. Basically, if you upload even a single copyrighted or adult file, they'll nuke your "lifetime" account without warning and without the opportunity to correct the problem by deleting the offending material.

If that works for you, then great! Personally, I'd rather they just delete the prohibited file(s) and send the "lifetime" customer a notification. But anyway, that's how they handle those "lifetime" accounts.
i have Icedrive lifetime 5TB account and have no problem with any of mentioned above.
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ZeeOhhSixFeb 16, 2024 08:13 PM
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Quote from lorcha :
Or adult content. Basically, if you upload even a single copyrighted or adult file, they'll nuke your "lifetime" account without warning and without the opportunity to correct the problem by deleting the offending material.

If that works for you, then great! Personally, I'd rather they just delete the prohibited file(s) and send the "lifetime" customer a notification. But anyway, that's how they handle those "lifetime" accounts.
so they are scanning your files? that's pretty messed up, with major privacy implications.
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estoylocoFeb 16, 2024 08:19 PM
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so they are scanning your files? that's pretty messed up, with major privacy implications.
Umm yeah... that's pretty f'ed up. So no expectation of privacy.

What keeps them from rummaging through your important, personal and private documents?
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so they are scanning your files? that's pretty messed up, with major privacy implications.
They check the hashes on the files, not the files themselves. You can also use cryptomator to encrypt all your files so they don't see anything.
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WuyiLFeb 16, 2024 08:25 PM
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If a trillions dollar company like Google couldn't offer life time cloud storage, why does pCloud offer this?
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Feb 16, 2024 08:34 PM
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If a trillions dollar company like Google couldn't offer life time cloud storage, why does pCloud offer this?
They used to have free unlimited lifetime cloud storage college students, alumni, and professors but recently stopped doing it because of the cost. Google also canceled some accounts with copyrighted material with no warning.

Icedrive [icedrive.net] also offers 5 year plans (I think they used to do lifetime as well) with their CEO saying that they are using these higher cost lifetime plans not as a sustainable business model, but instead as front end financing instead of relying on external investors. And hoping that data will get cheaper in the future.

It's a business model that's worked for a few years for pCloud and icedrive, and while there are concerns with how long the company will actually last, this is as cheap as those plans actually get. I'm guessing eventually they will stop offering lifetime plans as well.

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We would like to announce that after this coming Black Friday and Cyber Weekend, we will no longer be offering lifetime plans at Icedrive.

It is no surprise that eventually, lifetime plans become unsustainable - especially with a product that offers cloud-based storage. Infact, it should make anyone slightly nervous when they are offered!

That being said, lifetime plans have served a huge purpose and enabled us to secure a large amount of funding without having to relinquish any control of the company to 3rd party investors or conglomerates - Something we feel is extremely important for a privacy focused business.

We would like to thank everyone that has supported us during our infancy (And the future to come!). We are now in a position where we can really push forward and dramatically improve the Icedrive service. There is so much in store in the coming months and we are very excited to start evolving towards our ideal.

Though our experience has taught us that there is a demand for non-recurring offerings - and after all, lifetime plans are something Icedrive is known for. Starting in December 2023, we will be offering 5 year plans. They will be very similar in design to the Lifetime plans - Offering huge discounts compared to the subscription based plans and a simple one time payment for the duration of the 5 years.

Onwards and Upwards!
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Feb 16, 2024 09:25 PM
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FoRealz8Feb 16, 2024 09:25 PM
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I've had for several years and would not recommend especially with the upload speeds. I have 1gb fiber symmetrical and speeds were atrocious and support was a Merry go round. Eventually they admitted there was an "issue" on their end but couldn't tell me an ETA of when it would be fixed. No issues with Dropbox, Google drive, OneDrive, or anything else.

I highly recommend folks review their subreddit as well for more horror stories.

You get what you pay for with pCloud. If you are accepting of that...then so far it's fine for what it does.

I primarily purchased as a cloud backup after crashplan changed their plans etc.

I personally trust my Synology more than pCloud.
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I've had for several years and would not recommend especially with the upload speeds. I have 1gb fiber symmetrical and speeds were atrocious and support was a Merry go round. Eventually they admitted there was an "issue" on their end but couldn't tell me an ETA of when it would be fixed. No issues with Dropbox, Google drive, OneDrive, or anything else.

I highly recommend folks review their subreddit as well for more horror stories.

You get what you pay for with pCloud. If you are accepting of that...then so far it's fine for what it does.

I primarily purchased as a cloud backup after crashplan changed their plans etc.

I personally trust my Synology more than pCloud.
Were your speeds slow during the backup, or when uploading to their web client? I'm seeing 2-10MB/s speeds with the automatic backup, and with webclient, it was 30-60MB/s with 1gb fiber.

I've decided to cancel and just build my own nas server because I'll need more storage than 20TB anyways, and can just use external drives for offsite backup of the important info.
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FoRealz8Feb 16, 2024 10:00 PM
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Quote from DANlMALZ :
Were your speeds slow during the backup, or when uploading to their web client? I'm seeing 2-10MB/s speeds with the automatic backup, and with webclient, it was 30-60MB/s with 1gb fiber.

I've decided to cancel and just build my own nas server because I'll need more storage than 20TB anyways, and can just use external drives for offsite backup of the important info.
Both. 1-5 MB/s with occasional bursts to 10. It was a joke.

My ask would be that you edit your post and mention you are going the NAS route rather than sending people towards pCloud.

Again, it may work for some folks, but I feel like for the average person that wants to use it for backups or as a gdrive/Dropbox replacement it sucks if your files are larger than 300MB
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ZeeOhhSixFeb 16, 2024 11:17 PM
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Quote from DANlMALZ :
They check the hashes on the files, not the files themselves. You can also use cryptomator to encrypt all your files so they don't see anything.
so they have the hash files for every 'adult' file in existence? Is there some service that is providing those to them, or are they downloading these files themselfs, creating a hash, and comparing it against their customers' files? Pretty dirty stuff either way.
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minhnhatxFeb 17, 2024 04:58 AM
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As long as you upload into their Crypto Folder ($150 for Lifetime pCloud Encryption), upload adult content or copyrighted content, I don't believe they can see that. Files are encrypted before transfer. They don't hash files on client side, only server side. Make sure to NOT use their automatic backup/upload service that might accidentally upload some mp3 you may have.
I have had pCloud for over 2 years, I haven't had any issue.
For people who claim they ban account most likely didn't use Crypto folder.
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truckin76Feb 17, 2024 05:06 AM
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Is this a good deal for a 98 year old?
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TenseMitten8647Feb 17, 2024 06:17 AM
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Quote from lorcha :
Or adult content. Basically, if you upload even a single copyrighted or adult file, they'll nuke your "lifetime" account without warning and without the opportunity to correct the problem by deleting the offending material.

If that works for you, then great! Personally, I'd rather they just delete the prohibited file(s) and send the "lifetime" customer a notification. But anyway, that's how they handle those "lifetime" accounts.
Seems to me like they could just encrypt everything by default like a real company and avoid the hassle and responsibility of having to involve themselves.

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Feb 17, 2024 12:18 PM
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minhnhatxFeb 17, 2024 12:18 PM
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Seems to me like they could just encrypt everything by default like a real company and avoid the hassle and responsibility of having to involve themselves.
There are cons to that. Encrypted files has to be decrypted on the client side each and every time the file is accessed, which greatly reduce performance especially when watching video.
Encrypted files also cannot be shared.

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