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10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurbished)

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goHardDrive via NewEgg has the 10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurbished) for $69.99. Shipping is free.

Note: This product was inspected, tested, and refurbished as necessary to be 100% functional according to the Newegg Refreshed standards.

Thanks to Staff Member Izzy138 for posting this deal.

Features:
  • SATA 6.0Gb/s
  • 7200RPM
  • 256MB Cache
  • 3.5" Form Factor

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goHardDrive via NewEgg has the 10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurbished) for $69.99. Shipping is free.

Note: This product was inspected, tested, and refurbished as necessary to be 100% functional according to the Newegg Refreshed standards.

Thanks to Staff Member Izzy138 for posting this deal.

Features:
  • SATA 6.0Gb/s
  • 7200RPM
  • 256MB Cache
  • 3.5" Form Factor

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megablank
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All drives are a gamble, 2 is 1, but at refurb prices you can get 2 for the price of one new one.
LostMountain
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I'm brand agnostic, but Seagate as a brand has far greater rate of failure vs WD.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ba...r-q1-2023/
afrugalfather
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Only $10 more to get a 12tb from serverparts or goharddrive on ebay

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Mar 10, 2024 10:57 PM
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lastwraithMar 10, 2024 10:57 PM
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Quote from awdrifter :
It's a gamble. The only refurbishment these sellers have done is to erase the data. They are not replacing the motor bearings, the actuators, or refilling the helium. You're buying a 5+ years old USED hard drives that are more than half way through their typical life.
I don't want some random seller opening a helium drive anyway, so I'd rather they just wipe and resell. Not many places have setups to properly refurbish a drive.
Mar 10, 2024 10:58 PM
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ultimatinternetMar 10, 2024 10:58 PM
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Quote from Pinako :
Wait a minute now! These weren't recent purchases, right? Because my recent purchases from goHardDrive yielded disks with some 4 years but >1500 load cycles. These disks were probably cycled daily. I mean, they work just fine and I don't mind using the warranty if needed... just offering another data point to help calibrate expectations.
recent. All of them were 50 avg.
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Mar 10, 2024 10:59 PM
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lastwraithMar 10, 2024 10:59 PM
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Quote from Pinako :
This type of HDD might not be able to re-create your current experience, but whether it would work for you is an entirely different question. Consider this: If you watched TV in a living room where there are other noises, it's possible that ​you wouldn't mind the episodic purring of your home server. And if you cared enough to create a home theater to eliminate distractions, why, you'd probably be able to hide your HTPC where it wouldn't be heard. Or just use solid state storage in a fanless system to sidestep the issue altogether.
Ultrastars aren't usually THAT loud IMO, so you may be able to get away with an HTPC enclosure with acoustic padding, rubber drive grommets, and noctua fans.

Then again, if you're old enough, you may not hear many of the drive frequencies anyway. So much of this is unique stuff based on what frequencies bother you the most, your room layout, enclosure type, etc.
Last edited by lastwraith March 10, 2024 at 04:02 PM.
Mar 11, 2024 12:10 AM
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paperinmypocketsMar 11, 2024 12:10 AM
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So man did I fark up. I ordered 3x 12TB Seagate drives to replace 4x 2TB drives in my NAS. I started seeing these deals, wasn't sure about the warranty and started a return for the 3x 12TB Seagate. Then purchased 4x 10TB HGST off eBay and after that saw that Newegg offers the 5 yr warranty too. So I request to cancel that order. I emailed their customer service address. Anyone think this is worth all the trouble or that they'll even get back to me before the sale ends at Newegg? Ideally I'd like to order 4x 10TB HGST drives from Newegg for $70 each. ugh
Mar 11, 2024 12:21 AM
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JSquareMar 11, 2024 12:21 AM
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Quote from Pinako :
This type of HDD might not be able to re-create your current experience, but whether it would work for you is an entirely different question. Consider this: If you watched TV in a living room where there are other noises, it's possible that ​you wouldn't mind the episodic purring of your home server. And if you cared enough to create a home theater to eliminate distractions, why, you'd probably be able to hide your HTPC where it wouldn't be heard. Or just use solid state storage in a fanless system to sidestep the issue altogether.
Quote from lastwraith :
Ultrastars aren't usually THAT loud IMO, so you may be able to get away with an HTPC enclosure with acoustic padding, rubber drive grommets, and noctua fans.

Then again, if you're old enough, you may not hear many of the drive frequencies anyway. So much of this is unique stuff based on what frequencies bother you the most, your room layout, enclosure type, etc.
I may go for it.
I don't remember when I purchased my last hard drive and the 5 HDDs installed in my server have over 40K power on hours each. So I'm worry they will start to fail soon, a backup plan is mostly what I want.
From my experience for the longevity of any drive: good power source, ventilation and always on (Do not power off/standby or use power saving mode)
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MasejoerMar 11, 2024 01:44 AM
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Quote from wallykid :
How do you go about doing health checks of a drive? Are there any recommended free software out there that is reliable?
Not sure about free, but I use HD Sentinel. Write+read test, sequential + butterfly, repeated a second time. It will write the drive 4 times, and read it back 4 times. The butterfly tests move the heads back and forth between the first half and second half of the platters (inner vs outer tracks), but nothing like random i/o workloads. This does take something like 10 days to complete on 18TB drives, but it is a test load that has revealed to me many defective new-out-of-box drives. Toshiba and older Hitachi SAS have been far worse than Seagate when brand new.

Refurbs from Server Part Deals - I've purchased 18 or 20 of them by now for personal use, in 14 and 18TB capacities, and all have passed the testing without error. I haven't purchased any from goHardDrive.

I have purchased some lots of used WD $5 4TB SAS drives to use as cold backups, instead of LTO, and have had a few fail during initial testing there. Those issues seemed to be a recent, potentially shipping related issue though. Nothing wiped from the drive history - just old drives with long reported histories that had no reported problems until my testing loads were completed.
Last edited by Masejoer March 10, 2024 at 06:48 PM.
Mar 11, 2024 01:47 AM
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MWinkMar 11, 2024 01:47 AM
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Quote from Pinako :
Wait a minute now! These weren't recent purchases, right? Because my recent purchases from goHardDrive yielded disks with some 4 years but >1500 load cycles. These disks were probably cycled daily. I mean, they work just fine and I don't mind using the warranty if needed... just offering another data point to help calibrate expectations.
Most of the modern WD/HGST drives I've seen go through one load/unload cycle per 12 or 24 hours, even if they are running 24/7. 1500 cycles in 4 years is exactly what I'd expect for a drive that had almost no power cycles.
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Mar 11, 2024 02:31 AM
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TexasLonghornsMar 11, 2024 02:31 AM
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Do I buy this and have someone install it in my desktop computer? My 300TB hard drive has filled up. I'd love 12TB.
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lastwraithMar 11, 2024 03:23 AM
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Quote from Sungpooz :
Where is this? I'm interested

BTW I'm asking after failing to find the 5 yr warranty one on eBay
I'm assuming this is what they were talking about

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15604681...4368960INT
FWIW, goharddrive generally offers 5 years in all their drives like this, sometimes even when the listing only says 1yr on their site vs Newegg vs eBay (or whatever). When people have reached out to goharddrive to ask why the 1yr vs 5 elsewhere, virtually every response I've seen is that they said it would still have 5 years from them and not to worry.

So, if you see 1yr at one marketplace and 5 years at another and they're both goharddrive listings, reach out to them directly and see and maybe you save yourself $5-10 or whatever for the same thing.
Last edited by lastwraith March 10, 2024 at 08:28 PM.
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wallykidMar 11, 2024 03:26 AM
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Quote from Masejoer :
Not sure about free, but I use HD Sentinel. Write+read test, sequential + butterfly, repeated a second time. It will write the drive 4 times, and read it back 4 times. The butterfly tests move the heads back and forth between the first half and second half of the platters (inner vs outer tracks), but nothing like random i/o workloads. This does take something like 10 days to complete on 18TB drives, but it is a test load that has revealed to me many defective new-out-of-box drives. Toshiba and older Hitachi SAS have been far worse than Seagate when brand new.

Refurbs from Server Part Deals - I've purchased 18 or 20 of them by now for personal use, in 14 and 18TB capacities, and all have passed the testing without error. I haven't purchased any from goHardDrive.

I have purchased some lots of used WD $5 4TB SAS drives to use as cold backups, instead of LTO, and have had a few fail during initial testing there. Those issues seemed to be a recent, potentially shipping related issue though. Nothing wiped from the drive history - just old drives with long reported histories that had no reported problems until my testing loads were completed.
What version of sentinel did you buy? I assume the test you are referring to is Hardware short/extended disk tests and
Hard disk seek time, stress tests
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afrugalfatherMar 11, 2024 03:27 AM
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Quote from Masejoer :
Not sure about free, but I use HD Sentinel. Write+read test, sequential + butterfly, repeated a second time. It will write the drive 4 times, and read it back 4 times. The butterfly tests move the heads back and forth between the first half and second half of the platters (inner vs outer tracks), but nothing like random i/o workloads. This does take something like 10 days to complete on 18TB drives, but it is a test load that has revealed to me many defective new-out-of-box drives. Toshiba and older Hitachi SAS have been far worse than Seagate when brand new.

Refurbs from Server Part Deals - I've purchased 18 or 20 of them by now for personal use, in 14 and 18TB capacities, and all have passed the testing without error. I haven't purchased any from goHardDrive.

I have purchased some lots of used WD $5 4TB SAS drives to use as cold backups, instead of LTO, and have had a few fail during initial testing there. Those issues seemed to be a recent, potentially shipping related issue though. Nothing wiped from the drive history - just old drives with long reported histories that had no reported problems until my testing loads were completed.
WD $5 4TB SAS drives seem interesting, where does one buy those
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lastwraithMar 11, 2024 03:33 AM
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Quote from afrugalfather :
WD $5 4TB SAS drives seem interesting, where does one buy those
My guess would be eBay (or maybe FB marketplace) , they used to be available at that price (especially in bulk) somewhat regularly on eBay at least. I don't frequent FB marketplace.
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megablankMar 11, 2024 04:11 AM
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Quote from lastwraith :
I don't want some random seller opening a helium drive anyway, so I'd rather they just wipe and resell. Not many places have setups to properly refurbish a drive.
They are hermetically sealed through welding, laser or stir I forget.
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MasejoerMar 11, 2024 04:23 AM
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Quote from wallykid :
What version of sentinel did you buy? I assume the test you are referring to is Hardware short/extended disk tests and
Hard disk seek time, stress tests
I use Pro, portable version. I move it between systems, and it keeps history files of every drive I've ever tested (copy the folder back to my server when done), so I can always check on things again in the future if I felt like it, and see how the stats change. I likely will never do that Wink

Very worth the license fee for me, but I scan dozens of drives a year so it makes sense. I do with it has the ability to save a test suite so I don't have to select the test every time (and bulk testing has some bug with starting occasionally), but it has always been a worthwhile product imo.

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Mar 11, 2024 04:27 AM
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MasejoerMar 11, 2024 04:27 AM
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Quote from lastwraith :
My guess would be eBay (or maybe FB marketplace) , they used to be available at that price (especially in bulk) somewhat regularly on eBay at least. I don't frequent FB marketplace.
Yeah, ebay is the usual source. Occasionally you can find someone locally that will be parting out systems, but most people simply destroy the drives, rather than perform passes of secure wiping. Ebay is where you find drives that people may not even format...years back I received a bunch of SSDs with a spacecraft company's module blueprints and test results - thousands of internal documents on each. :/

HDDs are more convenient to backup to (trayless SAS bays), cheaper per TB (even at everyday $10/drive prices), and I trust them more in Orico storage cases than trying to correctly manage LTO media at home. My cold storage is in the attached garage, so not as climate or humidity controlled as the living space.
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