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expiredcheeknowe posted Mar 09, 2024 01:42 AM
expiredcheeknowe posted Mar 09, 2024 01:42 AM

Now cheaper! Teamgroup T-Force Vulcan Z 240GB SLC Cache 3D NAND TLC 2.5" SATAIII internal SSD $17.99 at Amazon

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Teamgroup T-Force Vulcan Z 240GB SLC Cache 3D NAND TLC 2.5" SATAIII internal SSD (was) $19.99) $17.99 at Amazon. It's not the $17.99 price some of us got it for, last year, but if you need a cheap SSD to replace an old HD on a laptop (to give the laptop new life), it's pretty decent:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WMP8...=UTF8&th=1

It's not QLC, at least. Same price at Newegg.
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Teamgroup T-Force Vulcan Z 240GB SLC Cache 3D NAND TLC 2.5" SATAIII internal SSD (was) $19.99) $17.99 at Amazon. It's not the $17.99 price some of us got it for, last year, but if you need a cheap SSD to replace an old HD on a laptop (to give the laptop new life), it's pretty decent:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WMP8...=UTF8&th=1

It's not QLC, at least. Same price at Newegg.

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Model: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 240GB SLC Cache 3D NAND TLC 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal Solid State Drive SSD (R/W Speed up to 520/450 MB/s) T253TZ240G0C101

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scholzpdxMar 09, 2024 06:57 PM
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For the first time ever I have to warn everyone about a cheap SSD. I have the 1TB version of this that I'm backing up to one of the 12TB HDDs that was on here last week. Transfer speeds (reads, not even writes) are all over the place from 30MB/s to zero, even when copying to any of the NVMe or other SATA SSDs in my system. I noticed some of my bulk games and reading media from it over the past few weeks that it was choppy but I never realized it to be this bad. SMART shows nothing wrong.

I'm switching out to a 4TB NVMe and a 4TB SATA SSD (paired with existing 2TB NVMe and 2TB SSD) to free up some expansion slots. There was some data on that drive that I would have lost if I didn't back it up now. I cannot trust this brand for SSDs. I have 64GB of their DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 that's doing great with a 5900X, but SSDs are off the table from them.
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FriedSausageMar 10, 2024 01:17 AM
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The Vulcan Z and G series don't have DRAM if it matters to anyone reading.
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Quote from FriedSausage :
The Vulcan Z and G series don't have DRAM if it matters to anyone reading.
Good to note. I hope people's expectations are not too high, seeing how cheap these things are.
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cheeknoweMar 10, 2024 05:53 PM
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Aaaand the price rose to $22.99.
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Never mind, price is back to $19.99
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graphixvMar 11, 2024 08:16 AM
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Quote from scholzpdx :
For the first time ever I have to warn everyone about a cheap SSD. I have the 1TB version of this that I'm backing up to one of the 12TB HDDs that was on here last week. Transfer speeds (reads, not even writes) are all over the place from 30MB/s to zero, even when copying to any of the NVMe or other SATA SSDs in my system. I noticed some of my bulk games and reading media from it over the past few weeks that it was choppy but I never realized it to be this bad. SMART shows nothing wrong.

I'm switching out to a 4TB NVMe and a 4TB SATA SSD (paired with existing 2TB NVMe and 2TB SSD) to free up some expansion slots. There was some data on that drive that I would have lost if I didn't back it up now. I cannot trust this brand for SSDs. I have 64GB of their DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 that's doing great with a 5900X, but SSDs are off the table from them.
Question: aren't these tiny drives more likely to fail earlier due to a lot of rewriting? All data sizes being equal.
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bad_azn_drvrMar 11, 2024 10:35 PM
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It's back down to $17.99 today.
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Quote from bad_azn_drvr :
It's back down to $17.99 today.
I'm glad you noticed - thanks for the update!
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Quote from graphixv :
Question: aren't these tiny drives more likely to fail earlier due to a lot of rewriting? All data sizes being equal.
Well, if you're just using the computer for web surfing, light work - then it shouldn't be a problem. I agree - don't use this drive for any heavy duty or serious work.
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SharpLake2934Mar 12, 2024 08:50 PM
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I buy a lot of used MLC based SSD. For people on extreme budgets. Like a Samsung 850/860 pro. Or SM863/883. MLC basically last forever for consumer use.

I have seen someone write over 9 petabytes of data to a 850 pro before it finally gave up.
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jacob2012Mar 12, 2024 10:52 PM
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SSD price has been infIated so much recently. I got the same brand but 1TB SSD for $27 at Newegg's tiktok store, just three or two months ago.
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justyeMar 13, 2024 12:46 AM
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Experts were right. SSD prices have gone up a lot in 2024. Hopefully we see mid 2023 prices again.
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boobolooMar 13, 2024 10:22 AM
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Quote from graphixv :
Question: aren't these tiny drives more likely to fail earlier due to a lot of rewriting? All data sizes being equal.
Depends, small writes are harsher, especially when full, its why samsung has an over provisioning utility to make walling off spare area easy.

Also some nand seems to degrade in performance when left unpowered for a while.
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Quote from scholzpdx :
For the first time ever I have to warn everyone about a cheap SSD. I have the 1TB version of this that I'm backing up to one of the 12TB HDDs that was on here last week. Transfer speeds (reads, not even writes) are all over the place from 30MB/s to zero, even when copying to any of the NVMe or other SATA SSDs in my system. I noticed some of my bulk games and reading media from it over the past few weeks that it was choppy but I never realized it to be this bad. SMART shows nothing wrong.

I'm switching out to a 4TB NVMe and a 4TB SATA SSD (paired with existing 2TB NVMe and 2TB SSD) to free up some expansion slots. There was some data on that drive that I would have lost if I didn't back it up now. I cannot trust this brand for SSDs. I have 64GB of their DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 that's doing great with a 5900X, but SSDs are off the table from them.
Are you testing with large contiguous files or a bunch of small ones?

A bunch of small files are never going to saturate the bus and will always show lower metrics than one large file.

If your large contiguous files are demonstrating similar fluctuations, then you'd have to look at other variables.

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scholzpdxMar 13, 2024 06:57 PM
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Quote from wherestheanykey :
Are you testing with large contiguous files or a bunch of small ones?

A bunch of small files are never going to saturate the bus and will always show lower metrics than one large file.

If your large contiguous files are demonstrating similar fluctuations, then you'd have to look at other variables.
Media, so 600MB to 2GB files. Doesn't matter what medium it's being copied to (NVMe, SATA SSD, USB HDD).

I eventually copied it to another SATA SSD and then it copied at full speed to the external HDD. I swapped SATA ports with another SSD and the issue followed it. The drive is reading incredibly slow. Writing has no obvious problem.

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