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Lenovo ThinkPad Z16 G1 (Cert refurb): 16" 4K+ OLED Touch, Ryzen 7 pro 6850H, 32GB LPDDR5X, RX6500M, 2TB Gen4 SSD, USB4, Win11P @ $998.99 + F/S

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  • Windows 11 Pro
  • 16" 3840x2400 16:10 400-nits OLED Touch Display, 100% DCI-P3, 99% Adobe RGB, 500-nits HDR
  • Ryzen 7 pro 6850H 8C/16T 3.2 GHz (4.7 GHz Boost, 20MB Cache)
  • 32GB LPDDR5X 6400 MHz Quad Channel Memory
  • 2TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen 4x4 NVMe TLC Opal SSD
  • AMD Radeon RX6500M 4GB GDDR6 Graphics
  • White Backlit Keyboard
  • Fingerprint Reader
  • 2x 2W Front Facing Speakers
  • 1080p Webcam /w eShutter and IR, Windows hello
  • Qualcomm WCN685x Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.2
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB4 Type-C (40Gbps, Power Delivery, DisplayPort 1.4)
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C (10Gbps, Power Delivery, DisplayPort 1.4)
    • 1x SD Card Reader
    • 1x 3.5mm Audio Combo Jack
  • 72 Wh Lithium-Polymer Battery
  • 135W USB-C Charger
  • 4.16 lbs
  • 1 Year Standard Depot Warranty
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Lenovo Outlet: https://www.lenovo.com/us/outletu...21d4x001us

Coupon: OUTLETSALE (Automatically applies to the Cart)

Spec (21D4X001US):
  • Windows 11 Pro
  • 16" 3840x2400 16:10 400-nits OLED Touch Display, 100% DCI-P3, 99% Adobe RGB, 500-nits HDR
  • Ryzen 7 pro 6850H 8C/16T 3.2 GHz (4.7 GHz Boost, 20MB Cache)
  • 32GB LPDDR5X 6400 MHz Quad Channel Memory
  • 2TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen 4x4 NVMe TLC Opal SSD
  • AMD Radeon RX6500M 4GB GDDR6 Graphics
  • White Backlit Keyboard
  • Fingerprint Reader
  • 2x 2W Front Facing Speakers
  • 1080p Webcam /w eShutter and IR, Windows hello
  • Qualcomm WCN685x Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.2
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB4 Type-C (40Gbps, Power Delivery, DisplayPort 1.4)
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C (10Gbps, Power Delivery, DisplayPort 1.4)
    • 1x SD Card Reader
    • 1x 3.5mm Audio Combo Jack
  • 72 Wh Lithium-Polymer Battery
  • 135W USB-C Charger
  • 4.16 lbs
  • 1 Year Standard Depot Warranty

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Mar 10, 2024 7:28 AM
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DJ_SAMMY_DMar 10, 2024 7:28 AM
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Checks off all the boxes.. even the sizzlenits chasers can't complain about this one, right?
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Mar 10, 2024 7:51 AM
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poopiMar 10, 2024 7:51 AM
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Quote from DJ_SAMMY_D View quoted comment :
Checks off all the boxes.. even the sizzlenits chasers can't complain about this one, right?
Nah, why would anyone get an AMD dGPU, let alone an entry-level one? This one is barely faster than the integrated 780m/Arc.

I've also never understood the point of a touchscreen on a non-convertible laptop. Seems just very unergonomic.
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Mar 10, 2024 8:40 AM
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SlimeyfaceMar 10, 2024 8:40 AM
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Quote from DJ_SAMMY_D View quoted comment :
Checks off all the boxes.. even the sizzlenits chasers can't complain about this one, right?

What's a "sizzlenits chasers"?
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Mar 10, 2024 10:08 AM
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I_like_feetMar 10, 2024 10:08 AM
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Quote from Slimeyface View quoted comment :
What's a "sizzlenits chasers"?
retina burning nits
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Mar 10, 2024 1:31 PM
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paulhentaMar 10, 2024 1:31 PM
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This laptop get hot asf and/or throttle like a mofo. Looks very good and is super light but I would wait for a version with a less hot cpu
Mar 10, 2024 3:28 PM
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chadog900Mar 10, 2024 3:28 PM
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3.5 rating. I'm weary of these Frankenstein machines that have everything you want. End up being loud and super hot and eventually non functional outside the warranty period.
Mar 10, 2024 4:49 PM
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Hat-TrickMar 10, 2024 4:49 PM
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Quote from chadog900 View quoted comment :
3.5 rating. I'm weary of these Frankenstein machines that have everything you want. End up being loud and super hot and eventually non functional outside the warranty period.
It has a lot of features but is missing some very important ports -- namely USB-A ports and an RJ45 Ethernet. I agree, though, reading some of the owners reviews, there seems to be issues all over the board. Are these reviews for the REFURB version or NEW units? If new, that's a shame. If refurb, then Lenovo is doing a terrible job of repairing and testing these before selling them in their outlet.

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Mar 10, 2024 5:13 PM
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barrera_jMar 10, 2024 5:13 PM
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Quote from Hat-Trick View quoted comment :
It has a lot of features but is missing some very important ports -- namely USB-A ports and an RJ45 Ethernet. I agree, though, reading some of the owners reviews, there seems to be issues all over the board. Are these reviews for the REFURB version or NEW units? If new, that's a shame. If refurb, then Lenovo is doing a terrible job of repairing and testing these before selling them in their outlet.
you are notn going to get ethernet ports on really thin laptops

but yes, having no USB-As is dumb
Mar 10, 2024 5:52 PM
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lighterwalletMar 10, 2024 5:52 PM
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Thanks OP.
Deal is dead now.

We are sorry, the product Notebook ThinkPad Z16 Gen 1 (Part Number: 21D4X001US) cannot be added to cart since it is out of stock.

Mine arrives in a few days.
Easy return policy if it overheats.
(I do not game on PCs and have a powerful desktop for more intensive graphics tasks if needed).


Lack of USB-A and ethernet have been called out (and Hat-Trick and I exchange viewpoints offline too in a positive and constructive way).

I honestly feel Lenovo did this intentionally:

Lack of USB-A that has been called out: I agree lack of it is not ideal and I would prefer one just in case. That said, more and more devices are shifting to USB-C.
Come to think of it, while I have a TON of USB-A devices hooked up to my desktop PC (have a 16 port Sabrent hub with 13 ports used - lots of hard drives and other devices like a Bigfoot microphone, a Logic 1080P HD webcam, a USB headset etc.), my laptop is an entirely different story:

I personally do not even use or need USB-A on my laptop:
I use an LG USB-C QHD monitor with it when working remotely (away from home).
My latest Logitech mice are all Bluetooth now.
Even My Sabrent aluminum external NVMe enclosures are ALL USB-C as well!
And even the wifi cards in laptops have come a long way recently with the Wifi 6E Intel AX211 / AX210 so USB-based wifi adapters are not really needed anymore (I had bought 2 Netgear AC1900 and 2 Asus USB-AC68 wifi adapters and a 4th backup adapter from another brand (D-Link I believe) and ended up not really needing them - I do bigger downloads on my desktop connected via ethernet (Gigabit+ plan).

Workaround for when a USB-A device does need to be connected to one's laptop (very rarely these days in my case at least):
Samsung is also notorious for this (had a Galaxy Book Flex Japanese edition that was great - double the RAM of the US variant, but it had no USB-A ports).
For that laptop (before the new AX211 came out) I ended up buying Anker USB-C to USB-A adapters; they are small (smaller than USB flash drives).


Lack of ethernet
- Is an issue for some, understandably.
All I can say is it is not at all an issue for me personally. With my last two laptops I have not used ethernet even once:
They both have AX211 adapters (I got 920 Mbps WIRELESSLY in a room somewhat far from my Orbi units). So with speeds like that, I do not see any need to have another cord coming from my laptop especially in some of the rooms I use it in and when traveling.
At home, only my desktop is connected by ethernet. My two laptops are used in other rooms where I do not even have ethernet ports installed and I do not miss them.

Worst case "workaround", Lenovo sells compact ethernet adapters (link to one sample below) - I bought one about 4 or 5 years ago (again, this was before Intel's INTERNAL laptop wifi card technology and speeds improved DRASTICALLY).
If you are going to have a long RJ45 ethernet cable coming out of your laptop, then having the dongle coming out is not a huge deal in my humble opinion IMHO).
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/ac...4x91h17795

Going to compare this Lenovo Z16 to my Asus Creator i9-13900H and decide which one to keep.
The sleek looks and build quality (I am traveling next month) and amazing battery life of the Z16 drew me in, among other features.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...tthewMoniz

https://www.techradar.com/reviews...n-1-review

https://www.tomshardware.com/revi...inkpad-z16

https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews...ttery-life.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Len...764.0.html

https://laptopmedia.com/review/le...-gen-1/#p1

https://www.ultrabookreview.com/5...16-review/


Note that the newer Z16 Gen 2 battery life half that of this Gen 1, depending on config.

My main / real concern with the Z16 is heat issues (or other performance issues) which seem to be why it has a 3.5 rating. Have to read user reviews.
Professional reviews (linked above) are mostly positive and I wanted to order it before it sold out (the site warned it would sell out soon and it did), so I had not even seen user reviews at the time (I knew Lenovo has a hassle free return policy if not satisfied).


I want a well rounded laptop and that often comes with 1 sacrifice or another. Some have speed but poor battery life. Others cost $4,000. Others have great battery life but poor build quality. Others like the 2023 Asus TUF A15 which has almost everything, could have better screen and looks- things I could not get over unfortunately. Smilie

I want a balanced laptop (battery life, build quality, bright screen, good keyboard etc.) and I do not necessarily need the fastest PC in town (have a 'primary' desktop for that) and I do not game on my computers either. Smilie

The 3.5 / 5 rating may end up meaning I need to return it, but I will give it a shot (cautiously optimistic). Fingers crossed... Smilie
Last edited by lighterwallet March 11, 2024 at 01:50 PM.
Mar 12, 2024 4:53 PM
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Hat-TrickMar 12, 2024 4:53 PM
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Quote from lighterwallet View quoted comment :
Thanks OP.
Deal is dead now.

We are sorry, the product Notebook ThinkPad Z16 Gen 1 (Part Number: 21D4X001US) cannot be added to cart since it is out of stock.

Mine arrives in a few days.
Easy return policy if it overheats.
(I do not game on PCs and have a powerful desktop for more intensive graphics tasks if needed).


Lack of USB-A and ethernet have been called out (and Hat-Trick and I exchange viewpoints offline too in a positive and constructive way).

I honestly feel Lenovo did this intentionally:

Lack of USB-A that has been called out: I agree lack of it is not ideal and I would prefer one just in case. That said, more and more devices are shifting to USB-C.
Come to think of it, while I have a TON of USB-A devices hooked up to my desktop PC (have a 16 port Sabrent hub with 13 ports used - lots of hard drives and other devices like a Bigfoot microphone, a Logic 1080P HD webcam, a USB headset etc.), my laptop is an entirely different story:

I personally do not even use or need USB-A on my laptop:
I use an LG USB-C QHD monitor with it when working remotely (away from home).
My latest Logitech mice are all Bluetooth now.
Even My Sabrent aluminum external NVMe enclosures are ALL USB-C as well!
And even the wifi cards in laptops have come a long way recently with the Wifi 6E Intel AX211 / AX210 so USB-based wifi adapters are not really needed anymore (I had bought 2 Netgear AC1900 and 2 Asus USB-AC68 wifi adapters and a 4th backup adapter from another brand (D-Link I believe) and ended up not really needing them - I do bigger downloads on my desktop connected via ethernet (Gigabit+ plan).

Workaround for when a USB-A device does need to be connected to one's laptop (very rarely these days in my case at least):
Samsung is also notorious for this (had a Galaxy Book Flex Japanese edition that was great - double the RAM of the US variant, but it had no USB-A ports).
For that laptop (before the new AX211 came out) I ended up buying Anker USB-C to USB-A adapters; they are small (smaller than USB flash drives).


Lack of ethernet - Is an issue for some, understandably.
All I can say is it is not at all an issue for me personally. With my last two laptops I have not used ethernet even once:
They both have AX211 adapters (I got 920 Mbps WIRELESSLY in a room somewhat far from my Orbi units). So with speeds like that, I do not see any need to have another cord coming from my laptop especially in some of the rooms I use it in and when traveling.
At home, only my desktop is connected by ethernet. My two laptops are used in other rooms where I do not even have ethernet ports installed and I do not miss them.

Worst case "workaround", Lenovo sells compact ethernet adapters (link to one sample below) - I bought one about 4 or 5 years ago (again, this was before Intel's INTERNAL laptop wifi card technology and speeds improved DRASTICALLY).
If you are going to have a long RJ45 ethernet cable coming out of your laptop, then having the dongle coming out is not a huge deal in my humble opinion IMHO).
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/ac...4x91h17795 [lenovo.com]

Going to compare this Lenovo Z16 to my Asus Creator i9-13900H and decide which one to keep.
The sleek looks and build quality (I am traveling next month) and amazing battery life of the Z16 drew me in, among other features.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...tthewMoniz [youtube.com]

https://www.techradar.com/reviews...n-1-review [techradar.com]

https://www.tomshardware.com/revi...inkpad-z16 [tomshardware.com]

https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews...ttery-life [laptopmag.com].

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Len...764.0.html [notebookcheck.net]

https://laptopmedia.com/review/le...-gen-1/#p1 [laptopmedia.com]

https://www.ultrabookreview.com/5...16-review/ [ultrabookreview.com]


Note that the newer Z16 Gen 2 battery life half that of this Gen 1, depending on config.

My main / real concern with the Z16 is heat issues (or other performance issues) which seem to be why it has a 3.5 rating. Have to read user reviews.
Professional reviews (linked above) are mostly positive and I wanted to order it before it sold out (the site warned it would sell out soon and it did), so I had not even seen user reviews at the time (I knew Lenovo has a hassle free return policy if not satisfied).


I want a well rounded laptop and that often comes with 1 sacrifice or another. Some have speed but poor battery life. Others cost $4,000. Others have great battery life but poor build quality. Others like the 2023 Asus TUF A15 which has almost everything, could have better screen and looks- things I could not get over unfortunately.

I want a balanced laptop (battery life, build quality, bright screen, good keyboard etc.) and I do not necessarily need the fastest PC in town (have a 'primary' desktop for that) and I do not game on my computers either.

The 3.5 / 5 rating may end up meaning I need to return it, but I will give it a shot (cautiously optimistic). Fingers crossed...
Great posting with relevant issues/concerns and solutions. The link now shows the same unit as "Available Soon" so there may be more available "soon". Smilie
Last edited by Hat-Trick March 12, 2024 at 09:56 AM.

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