Anker SOLIX F3800 Dual Voltage Power Station + Expansion Battery (7680Wh total) $3499 & More + Free Shipping

superslickz

Mar 13, 2024 5:24 PM

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superslickzMar 13, 2024 5:24 PM

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Wow, it's even cheaper than the $3600 deal which was already very cheap

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caldog101

Mar 13, 2024 11:59 PM

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caldog101Mar 13, 2024 11:59 PM

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What is everyone's feeling on this versus Delta pro ultra?

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CrazyGoat

Mar 14, 2024 1:41 AM

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CrazyGoatMar 14, 2024 1:41 AM

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What is everyone's feeling on this versus Delta pro ultra?

They're both excellent - but I feel expanding the Anker will be cheaper in the long run. They're much hungrier to break into the market.

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TimmyW9629

Mar 14, 2024 2:54 AM

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TimmyW9629Mar 14, 2024 2:54 AM

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What do I do with this thing?

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shjaythi

Mar 14, 2024 3:01 AM

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shjaythiMar 14, 2024 3:01 AM

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Quote from TimmyW9629

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What do I do with this thing?

Charge your phone for a few years

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natecmd

Mar 14, 2024 3:20 AM

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natecmdMar 14, 2024 3:20 AM

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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank

Seems like it wouldn't be to be to code to put the 14-50 (50amp) 240v outlet when it cannot supply the 9600w (continuous de-rated to 40a at 240v) that an EV charger plugged into a 14-50 expects (you are not allowed to put a 14-50 outlet in your house if the circuit and breaker are not matched).

Although you may be able to set your charger to a different maximum charging current (6000w/240v= 25amps) you would need to do this.

TLDR: don't buy one of these to time shift your solar production for EV charging at night as cool as it sounds.

Looking at this under the viewpoint that on my work commute weeks I need about 7kw of power each day and my excess solar could charge this and a Powerwall most days, and then I could still recharge the car without having to pull anything from the grid, and avoid more non-bypassable charges for exporting and then importing from the grid. But I don't think there's a reasonable payoff because the avoided cost per kWh of 45 cents (power company charging 0.50/kWh - lifetime cost per kWh of 0.05 with my solar). $3500/0.45= 7778kwh charged in the car to break even. 7778kwh/7kwh/day = 1111 days, but with 91 commute days per year that's over 12 years payback... And that's not considering the losses for solar DC to AC conversion and back to DC in the Anker battery and then back to AC to charge the car to the DC car battery.

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EpOxY81

Mar 14, 2024 3:21 AM

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EpOxY81Mar 14, 2024 3:21 AM

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Would it be worth it to use this to power my home during the more expensive time of use? Or is it not worth it because it'll use up the life of the battery faster?

I've been thinking about getting a battery that I could charge when electricity was cheap to use during the day, but I also don't know if that will save me enough to cover the cost of the battery before the battery stops working.

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rb5505

Mar 14, 2024 3:36 AM

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rb5505Mar 14, 2024 3:36 AM

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Quote from EpOxY81

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Would it be worth it to use this to power my home during the more expensive time of use? Or is it not worth it because it'll use up the life of the battery faster?

I've been thinking about getting a battery that I could charge when electricity was cheap to use during the day, but I also don't know if that will save me enough to cover the cost of the battery before the battery stops working.

you need to factor in that you lose about 20% of the power just converting it. so your savings needs to be over 20% just to start breaking even. only then could you even start to save. that coupled with the time spent charging & recharging, is simply not worth it for 90%+ of us. and that doesn't even include an inlet plug or transfer switch or smart panel cost & install. bold statement…IMO, this category is rarely if ever going to reflect positive $ payback. don't use that as your motivation. i know on sd that's a sin, but think of this as a security purchase more then a monetary investment. that's worth something too. many on sd will bend themselves into pretzels trying to convince themselves otherwise of course. having said this, this is the best deal i've ever seen on this setup, by far.

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natecmd

Mar 14, 2024 3:46 AM

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natecmdMar 14, 2024 3:46 AM

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Quote from EpOxY81

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Would it be worth it to use this to power my home during the more expensive time of use? Or is it not worth it because it'll use up the life of the battery faster?

I've been thinking about getting a battery that I could charge when electricity was cheap to use during the day, but I also don't know if that will save me enough to cover the cost of the battery before the battery stops working.

It might be but it depends on the cost difference between your expensive and cheap power.

Have had a PowerWall (13kwh capacity) for 4.5 years and it has supplied 10300kwh to my home through expensive evening and overnight hours. (Assuming the same avoided cost calculations above but adjusting for a proportion of power used overnight outside of the expensive 4-9pm hours, let's say it's (average price 0.35/kWh - 0.05/kWh lifetime solar price = 0.30/kWh * 10300 kWh = $3090 avoided. The battery cost about $8k after tax credits and rebates so still in the red but power prices keep going up so it'll probably pay off in the next 3 years (and currently earning about $70/year in virtual powerplant payments to sell power back to the grid during high demand times).

We have also avoided 48 hours of power outage during that 4.5 years, so if you take the remaining $4810 break even / 48hrs= about $102/hr paid for each avoided hour of power outage ... Or $4810 /(365 days x 4.5 years x 24hr/d) = $0.12/hour to guarantee that we don't lose power... And with each year that goes by the cost to have avoided power outages shrinks until we reach payback at which point it is free.

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AmusedDime497

Mar 14, 2024 3:52 AM

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AmusedDime497Mar 14, 2024 3:52 AM

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I am too stupid to be in this thread 😣😔

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techie_review101

Mar 14, 2024 4:03 AM

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techie_review101Mar 14, 2024 4:03 AM

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Quote from AmusedDime497

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I am too stupid to be in this thread 😣😔

Ahaha I feel the same way

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rb5505

Mar 14, 2024 4:27 AM

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rb5505Mar 14, 2024 4:27 AM

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Quote from AmusedDime497

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I am too stupid to be in this thread 😣😔

check out many youtube reviews like these, on this model. pretty simple.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PKNEN...NjWr8YzCF3

https://youtu.be/XFlRkMm8rDc?si=iKU6TV6prhKIlndm

https://youtu.be/bUoYeqheGZU?si=NCRYYBidPYjcrbwq

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victorg8586

Mar 14, 2024 5:43 AM

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victorg8586Mar 14, 2024 5:43 AM

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So this holds .25 cents per kwatt x 7.5kw = $1.9 dollars?

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ape

Mar 14, 2024 6:30 AM

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apeMar 14, 2024 6:30 AM

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Quote from victorg8586

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So this holds .25 cents per kwatt x 7.5kw = $1.9 dollars?

About three cups of diesel ⛽

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