Roundtrip Nonstop Flight: Sacramento, CA (SMF) to/from Seattle, WA (SEA) Expired

Relatively speaking, OP is right, Seattle is pretty horrible. This is not in relation to how many "positives" there are. I would say any decrepit city can probably list more pros than cons, but it's not the quantity of negatives that impact the city but the weight and severity or those negatives.

For context, I'm a Baltimore native (total crap rust belt city known for it's high STD per Capita , go Baltimore!). Spent 10 years in LA, 3 years in Austin, 2 years in SF Bay area, now 4 in Seattle.

Even in the 4 years in Seattle I've seen a visible decline in most important aspects of city livability, namely crime, drug use and homelessness. For sure a big accelerant of this (in most cities) was Covid/the pandemic, but Seattle has yet to recover from it + the unfortunate policy fall outs from BLM protests.

This isn't a political opinion, it's statistical fact. Businesses are leaving Seattle proper due to the insanely high crime rate, I should also know this because I'm a small business owner who is now opening in Issaquah. My neighbors also own businesses in Seattle (phinny ridge, Green lake) who have been broken into multiple times in the last several months.

Just this past week I was in University Place (central Seattle) with my 3 kids, and as bad as Baltimore was in the 80s/90s, the crackheads never did their drugs in the open. I had to cover my 7 year olds face to make sure she didn't breathe in the Meth smoke that some homeless drugee was smoking RIGHT OUTSIDE THE GODDAMN RESTAURANT at 11:30am on a Saturday.

Seattle is the only metropolitan city where real estate prices are more expensive in the suburbs vs. the city (or at the very least, the same).

To Seattle's credit, it's not AS bad as some parts in bay area (namely Oakland and SF proper).

Pike's place area is literally a swap meet for homeless and meth heads. Don't believe me? Go there in broad daylight and walk in a block radius. If you step more than 10 feet out of the actual Pikes Place market, you'll instantly be transported to a market of stolen goods and interesting body smells.

There's no police presence (because they all quit), homeless camps everywhere, and the only refuges are pockets of gentrified white collar tech workers ( I know, I'm one of them)

Relatively speaking, OP is right, Seattle is pretty horrible. This is not in relation to how many "positives" there are. I would say any decrepit city can probably list more pros than cons, but it's not the quantity of negatives that impact the city but the weight and severity or those negatives.

For context, I'm a Baltimore native (total crap rust belt city known for it's high STD per Capita , go Baltimore!). Spent 10 years in LA, 3 years in Austin, 2 years in SF Bay area, now 4 in Seattle.

Even in the 4 years in Seattle I've seen a visible decline in most important aspects of city livability, namely crime, drug use and homelessness. For sure a big accelerant of this (in most cities) was Covid/the pandemic, but Seattle has yet to recover from it + the unfortunate policy fall outs from BLM protests.

This isn't a political opinion, it's statistical fact. Businesses are leaving Seattle proper due to the insanely high crime rate, I should also know this because I'm a small business owner who is now opening in Issaquah. My neighbors also own businesses in Seattle (phinny ridge, Green lake) who have been broken into multiple times in the last several months.

Just this past week I was in University Place (central Seattle) with my 3 kids, and as bad as Baltimore was in the 80s/90s, the crackheads never did their drugs in the open. I had to cover my 7 year olds face to make sure she didn't breathe in the Meth smoke that some homeless drugee was smoking RIGHT OUTSIDE THE GODDAMN RESTAURANT at 11:30am on a Saturday.

Seattle is the only metropolitan city where real estate prices are more expensive in the suburbs vs. the city (or at the very least, the same).

To Seattle's credit, it's not AS bad as some parts in bay area (namely Oakland and SF proper).

Pike's place area is literally a swap meet for homeless and meth heads. Don't believe me? Go there in broad daylight and walk in a block radius. If you step more than 10 feet out of the actual Pikes Place market, you'll instantly be transported to a market of stolen goods and interesting body smells.

There's no police presence (because they all quit), homeless camps everywhere, and the only refuges are pockets of gentrified white collar tech workers ( I know, I'm one of them)

Vancouver is better imo. I lived in both but much less crime and safety and public transportation is better in vancouver.

only problem with vancouver is cost of living is kind of high compared to salary but if you are American expat working in Vancouver, you should have no problem with cost of living. It's actually cheaper than LA, SF, or NY.

Relatively speaking, OP is right, Seattle is pretty horrible. This is not in relation to how many "positives" there are. I would say any decrepit city can probably list more pros than cons, but it's not the quantity of negatives that impact the city but the weight and severity or those negatives.

For context, I'm a Baltimore native (total crap rust belt city known for it's high STD per Capita , go Baltimore!). Spent 10 years in LA, 3 years in Austin, 2 years in SF Bay area, now 4 in Seattle.

Even in the 4 years in Seattle I've seen a visible decline in most important aspects of city livability, namely crime, drug use and homelessness. For sure a big accelerant of this (in most cities) was Covid/the pandemic, but Seattle has yet to recover from it + the unfortunate policy fall outs from BLM protests.

This isn't a political opinion, it's statistical fact. Businesses are leaving Seattle proper due to the insanely high crime rate, I should also know this because I'm a small business owner who is now opening in Issaquah. My neighbors also own businesses in Seattle (phinny ridge, Green lake) who have been broken into multiple times in the last several months.

Just this past week I was in University Place (central Seattle) with my 3 kids, and as bad as Baltimore was in the 80s/90s, the crackheads never did their drugs in the open. I had to cover my 7 year olds face to make sure she didn't breathe in the Meth smoke that some homeless drugee was smoking RIGHT OUTSIDE THE GODDAMN RESTAURANT at 11:30am on a Saturday.

Seattle is the only metropolitan city where real estate prices are more expensive in the suburbs vs. the city (or at the very least, the same).

To Seattle's credit, it's not AS bad as some parts in bay area (namely Oakland and SF proper).

Pike's place area is literally a swap meet for homeless and meth heads. Don't believe me? Go there in broad daylight and walk in a block radius. If you step more than 10 feet out of the actual Pikes Place market, you'll instantly be transported to a market of stolen goods and interesting body smells.

There's no police presence (because they all quit), homeless camps everywhere, and the only refuges are pockets of gentrified white collar tech workers ( I know, I'm one of them)

Relatively speaking, OP is right, Seattle is pretty horrible. This is not in relation to how many "positives" there are. I would say any decrepit city can probably list more pros than cons, but it's not the quantity of negatives that impact the city but the weight and severity or those negatives.

For context, I'm a Baltimore native (total crap rust belt city known for it's high STD per Capita , go Baltimore!). Spent 10 years in LA, 3 years in Austin, 2 years in SF Bay area, now 4 in Seattle.

Even in the 4 years in Seattle I've seen a visible decline in most important aspects of city livability, namely crime, drug use and homelessness. For sure a big accelerant of this (in most cities) was Covid/the pandemic, but Seattle has yet to recover from it + the unfortunate policy fall outs from BLM protests.

This isn't a political opinion, it's statistical fact. Businesses are leaving Seattle proper due to the insanely high crime rate, I should also know this because I'm a small business owner who is now opening in Issaquah. My neighbors also own businesses in Seattle (phinny ridge, Green lake) who have been broken into multiple times in the last several months.

Just this past week I was in University Place (central Seattle) with my 3 kids, and as bad as Baltimore was in the 80s/90s, the crackheads never did their drugs in the open. I had to cover my 7 year olds face to make sure she didn't breathe in the Meth smoke that some homeless drugee was smoking RIGHT OUTSIDE THE GODDAMN RESTAURANT at 11:30am on a Saturday.

Seattle is the only metropolitan city where real estate prices are more expensive in the suburbs vs. the city (or at the very least, the same).

To Seattle's credit, it's not AS bad as some parts in bay area (namely Oakland and SF proper).

Pike's place area is literally a swap meet for homeless and meth heads. Don't believe me? Go there in broad daylight and walk in a block radius. If you step more than 10 feet out of the actual Pikes Place market, you'll instantly be transported to a market of stolen goods and interesting body smells.

There's no police presence (because they all quit), homeless camps everywhere, and the only refuges are pockets of gentrified white collar tech workers ( I know, I'm one of them)

From one shithole city to another.