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Costco Members: Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra Whole-Home Power 12kWh Solution

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$7,000

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Costco Wholesale has for its Members: Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra Whole-Home Power Solution for $6999.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member caldog101 for sharing this deal.

Includes:
  • EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra Inverter
  • 2x EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra Battery
  • EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra Trolley
Features:
  • Scalable 12kWh solution provides up to a week of essential power supply
  • Exceptional 7200W output powers most household appliances at 120V or 240V
  • Super-fast charge up to 8800W by combining solar and AC
  • Online UPS ensures 0-ms transfer time, offering constant protection for sensitive devices
  • Long-lasting 10-year LFP battery for reliable performance

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Costco Wholesale has for its Members: Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra Whole-Home Power Solution for $6999.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member caldog101 for sharing this deal.

Includes:
  • EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra Inverter
  • 2x EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra Battery
  • EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra Trolley
Features:
  • Scalable 12kWh solution provides up to a week of essential power supply
  • Exceptional 7200W output powers most household appliances at 120V or 240V
  • Super-fast charge up to 8800W by combining solar and AC
  • Online UPS ensures 0-ms transfer time, offering constant protection for sensitive devices
  • Long-lasting 10-year LFP battery for reliable performance

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Specboy
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Batteries won't need to be replaced in 5-10 years. Lithium iron phosphate batteries are good for 10 years of full discharge every single day.... And at that 10-year point, they still have 80% of their capacity left. So if you ran this every other day to near empty, and recharged to full, you'd get 20 years out of this battery and still have 80%.
huge
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The price of batteries is dropping about 5% every couple of months. If you're going to spend this much on a battery, much better to get solar first. You can DIY a nice solar system with portable generator back up for the same price and still get the 30% rebate. Unless something happens, the price of these will keep going lower and lower. Better to wait
kaiblu
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Whole house generators are roughly $10-20k installed. They'll run for much longer. They will be louder.

This one qualifies for a 30% tax credit and will last 10 years

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Mar 18, 2024 06:13 PM
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teaberryMar 18, 2024 06:13 PM
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I'm not sure if you actually had a site-survey for those non-battery whole house solutions by a professional installer certified by the manufacturer like Generac. Firstly, you're not going to find it for $5k installed in 2024. Other issues include if you have a natural gas line or not, and what source of fuel you will need for emergency and do you have adequate amount? Storage for those fuel? Also, in order to maintain the warranty for the installed unit, the manufacturers usually requires regular maintenance by authorized personnel which usually is annual to semi-annual cost of $150-200 per visit. Those maint cost doesn't include parts replacement which on a traditional non-battery generators include spark plugs, filters, fuel/oil changes, etc.
Quote from derce927 :
Gotcha. I guess I have seen smaller whole house units for 5-10 k installed. More looking at power and total coast of ownership over so many decades etc
Mar 18, 2024 06:16 PM
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codemancerMar 18, 2024 06:16 PM
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Quote from BladeD :
You forgot one thing that gas is not free.
Quote from WooHoo2You :
Correction, the other "capacity" should last (roughly) another 5 billion years. Afterwards you might want to consider fossil fuels.

LOL....kids these days....thinking everything will last forever Wink
I am not stating an opinion one way or the other. I am merely suggesting that anyone claiming this and a gas generator are "the same" is being disingenuous.
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graphixvMar 18, 2024 06:21 PM
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Quote from iahawks550 :
This is one of those items you can wait and wait for, but when you actually need it, you don't have it. The waiting approach would seemingly make more sense for a frill purchase. We went two weeks without power during an ice storm and I convinced myself I needed a Generac/Natural gas generator. That was 17 years ago and we haven't lost power for more than three hours since.

This is a non-vital purchase for most.
lol. I know what you mean. I happen to remember an ice storm as well about that time ago… it kept the power off for at least a week here. I got into solar then and installed a couple panels and small batt backup.

It's only been used for any amount of time twice since then. One Time Because my wife forgot to pay the electric bill. lol.

The good thing is since it's solar, it's on all the time. I have it charge up various batteries while I wait for the next missed bill I guess.
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ranovaMar 18, 2024 06:21 PM
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Quote from codemancer :
I am not stating an opinion one way or the other. I am merely suggesting that anyone claiming this and a gas generator are "the same" is being disingenuous.
at 12kWh, this will likely keep a house powered for 1-2 days without solar depending on usage. If you get the panel for an extra $1000, it will integrate nicely into the house. If you have a full-blown solar system on your house, and its sunny, your house likely could be fully powered indefinitely with it

Im not sure how its not "the same" as a gas generator, at this size. If you run out of juice, then yeah, its dead until you can charge it up again. The battery backup systems that are 1-2kWh are not considered whole-house backup generators since you couldn't really power much. Reading specs, this has a 7200watt output, which is more than the Powerwall 2 at 5kW max output

In other words, its the same as a gas generator as much as an EV is the same as a gas car.
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WooHoo2YouMar 18, 2024 06:22 PM
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Quote from codemancer :
I am not stating an opinion one way or the other. I am merely suggesting that anyone claiming this and a gas generator are "the same" is being disingenuous.
I don't think anyone said they were "the same." Anyone making that claim, of said claim, is being disingenuous themselves.
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hallse7Mar 18, 2024 06:22 PM
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Quote from Pythonz :
The Hyundai Ioniq line has bidirectional charging, but I haven't seen anything about home backup integration. I hope they'll come out with something at some point. Tesla doesn't seem to have any interest in it for some reason. Maybe they just don't want to cannibalize their powerwall business.
F150 Powerboost can power a home and, theoretically, recharge the Delta Pro Ultra.
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derce927Mar 18, 2024 06:25 PM
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Quote from teaberry :
I'm not sure if you actually had a site-survey for those non-battery whole house solutions by a professional installer certified by the manufacturer like Generac. Firstly, you're not going to find it for $5k installed in 2024. Other issues include if you have a natural gas line or not, and what source of fuel you will need for emergency and do you have adequate amount? Storage for those fuel? Also, in order to maintain the warranty for the installed unit, the manufacturers usually requires regular maintenance by authorized personnel which usually is annual to semi-annual cost of $150-200 per visit. Those maint cost doesn't include parts replacement which on a traditional non-battery generators include spark plugs, filters, fuel/oil changes, etc.
That's a fair point and did not consider that cost. Was not a site survey just talked to over years as what they start at and what's included. Prices with COVID and the last 10 years with demand has really changed a lot.

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Quote from teaberry :
I'm not sure if you actually had a site-survey for those non-battery whole house solutions by a professional installer certified by the manufacturer like Generac. Firstly, you're not going to find it for $5k installed in 2024. Other issues include if you have a natural gas line or not, and what source of fuel you will need for emergency and do you have adequate amount? Storage for those fuel? Also, in order to maintain the warranty for the installed unit, the manufacturers usually requires regular maintenance by authorized personnel which usually is annual to semi-annual cost of $150-200 per visit. Those maint cost doesn't include parts replacement which on a traditional non-battery generators include spark plugs, filters, fuel/oil changes, etc.
A ~22kw NG unit that will run forever and let you live basically as if the mains were on is around $5-6k for the unit. MUCH of the install can be done by a homeowner as it's mostly grunt work, provided you can find contractors that will work with you. Pouring a level pad isn't difficult at all. Running the wires from A to B is pure grunt work. Plumbing for the NG is certainly something a plumber would want to do though. Cost also depends quite a bit on how far away NG is from the mains/switch point.

All that said, once your 12kwh here is gone, you're done. Yeah you could haul it somewhere to recharge, at 100 lb that's not going to be fun either. And that assumes there ARE places to recharge. I've had our power out for more than a week a handful of times and those are area-wide outages. If the strip mall where the supercharger is doesn't have power, well then you're not charging a portable battery or your vehicle, nevermind getting there. Meanwhile generators can run gas pumps all day long.

I'm not saying there is no utility in something like this, but when you think about when the rubber meets the road, they aren't really practical for the cost for most situations.
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hallse7Mar 18, 2024 06:26 PM
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Quote from psyctto :
Your 10-20k "installed" is misleading when compared to this deal… since both will need professional install for the transfer switch, which will be most of the install cost. Gas is negligible, propane depends heavily on your company and where the generator/tanks are.
This battery backup is only 7,200W output… and you still need to buy the transfer switch. If that's all you need, you can get a 7,500W Generac with no sales of any kind for 2,000$ with a transfer switch included.

This battery backup is tiny, it's basically a portable generator… not really equivalent to what I'd consider a whole house generator, that's more in the 24-26kW range.
Transfer switch is a couple hundred. If you don't have a propane tank or natural gas, this is certainly a viable option. Even more so if you have solar. Portable internal combustion generators labeled home back up are commonly 7500-12000kwh. In my experience. All depends on if you want to power just critical circuits or the entire home and/or if you need 240v for a well pump.
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rKhaydMar 18, 2024 06:43 PM
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You should look at my post a few pages back… doesn't seem it is possible
It is possible if you get the Smart Home Panel 2 with these batteries.
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teaberryMar 18, 2024 06:43 PM
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The reality is 90% of ppl here on SD isn't going to pour their own concrete pad and have a couple of buddies to haul that heavy unit and do the "running wires from A to B". Depending on your home situation and where the gas line is located the install can be complex (or simpler).

I had a home inspection buddy that once told me, if your house burns down and the insurance company "suspect" it is caused by said wiring, and they ask for proof or work done by a bonded professional (like a certified electrician), and you cannot provide that, you could be denied for insurance claim or significantly reduced payout.

I am simply pointing out the pros and cons of both type of backup power. For us in SE Texas, biggest need for power is from hurricane, floods, and found out 3yrs ago from a winter storm and poor state management (ERCOT). We are usually prepared for hurricanes and floods, but that winter storm got us pretty good.
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A ~22kw NG unit that will run forever and let you live basically as if the mains were on is around $5-6k for the unit. MUCH of the install can be done by a homeowner as it's mostly grunt work, provided you can find contractors that will work with you. Pouring a level pad isn't difficult at all. Running the wires from A to B is pure grunt work. Plumbing for the NG is certainly something a plumber would want to do though. Cost also depends quite a bit on how far away NG is from the mains/switch point.

All that said, once your 12kwh here is gone, you're done. Yeah you could haul it somewhere to recharge, at 100 lb that's not going to be fun either. And that assumes there ARE places to recharge. I've had our power out for more than a week a handful of times and those are area-wide outages. If the strip mall where the supercharger is doesn't have power, well then you're not charging a portable battery or your vehicle, nevermind getting there. Meanwhile generators can run gas pumps all day long.

I'm not saying there is no utility in something like this, but when you think about when the rubber meets the road, they aren't really practical for the cost for most situations.
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utcmkMar 18, 2024 06:45 PM
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Quote from INeverPayRetail :
Would be nice if it was cost effective to have this utilized in a non-solar home for peak hours usage and recharge overnight at lower rates. But, even with the 30% tax credit and living in an area with obscene peak hour rates (@34 cents/kwh here), it probably doesn't pencil out.
Man I am so glad I don't have to deal with peak/non-peak nonsense or electricity prices that high. I only pay .095 cents/kwh 24/7/365.
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combi1Mar 18, 2024 07:00 PM
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Quote from EpOxY81 :
I don't think any of these kinds of batteries have J1772 charging ports.

Also... the battery isn't that big. That's a lot of hassle for a couple bucks worth of electricity (Plus, you'd have to stay with the car/battery instead of like... going shopping. Since this wouldn't plug into the outside of your car).
Ecoflow has an adaptor that you can use j1772 to chardge
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The AnswerMar 18, 2024 07:07 PM
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And natural gas is really cheap especially in the states
Right now. Yes.

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The AnswerMar 18, 2024 07:13 PM
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Quote from teaberry :
The reality is 90% of ppl here on SD isn't going to pour their own concrete pad and have a couple of buddies to haul that heavy unit and do the "running wires from A to B". Depending on your home situation and where the gas line is located the install can be complex (or simpler).

I had a home inspection buddy that once told me, if your house burns down and the insurance company "suspect" it is caused by said wiring, and they ask for proof or work done by a bonded professional (like a certified electrician), and you cannot provide that, you could be denied for insurance claim or significantly reduced payout.

I am simply pointing out the pros and cons of both type of backup power. For us in SE Texas, biggest need for power is from hurricane, floods, and found out 3yrs ago from a winter storm and poor state management (ERCOT). We are usually prepared for hurricanes and floods, but that winter storm got us pretty good.
I'm in CT. More than half the state is not covered by NG infrastructure. Oil is the primary fuel source for close to half the households in the state.

IF you have solar, I'd run the #'s and consider this.

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