expiredThaiM posted Mar 27, 2024 01:33 PM
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2023 Fisker Ocean Trim price cuts STARTS MARCH 29th
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2023 Fisker Ocean Trim price cuts STARTS MARCH 29th
Previous MSR. New MSRP Price. Difference.
Ocean Sport $38,999 $24,999 -$14,000
Ocean Ultra $52,999 $34,999 -$18,000
Ocean Extreme $61,499 $37,499 -$24,000
https://www.fiskerinc.c
Previous MSR. New MSRP Price. Difference.
Ocean Sport $38,999 $24,999 -$14,000
Ocean Ultra $52,999 $34,999 -$18,000
Ocean Extreme $61,499 $37,499 -$24,000
https://www.fiskerinc.c
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2023 Fisker Ocean Trim price cuts STARTS MARCH 29th
Previous MSR. New MSRP Price. Difference.
Ocean Sport $38,999 $24,999 -$14,000
Ocean Ultra $52,999 $34,999 -$18,000
Ocean Extreme $61,499 $37,499 -$24,000
https://www.fiskerinc.c
Previous MSR. New MSRP Price. Difference.
Ocean Sport $38,999 $24,999 -$14,000
Ocean Ultra $52,999 $34,999 -$18,000
Ocean Extreme $61,499 $37,499 -$24,000
https://www.fiskerinc.c
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Oh im referring to all you "EV is bad" "battery is bad" electricity is bad" dingbats.
Unsure:
- while combustion particulate matter is reduced, the heavier weight of vehicles leads to more consumption, landfill waste and emissions of tire rubber and brake matter into atmosphere and what we breathe -not usable my other life to be recycled
- EV vehicles themselves may have less longevity. The 2nd hand market for EVs is poor -no one wants them. Expensive repairs leads to "salvage titles"on vehicles hardly damaged. A lot of these vehicles will be kicked compared to combustion vehicles which can easily be restored and go through many owners.
- we may be trading dependence on middle Eastern nations to China. Growth of African governments with precious metals for batteries are bank rolled by China. The seas and trade routes around Africa are slowly being controlled by China.
- the leading EV producer is China and they are going after the euro market hard and overtaking Tesla
- are total costs for EVs vs combustion for consumers ever talked about? New EV cost(increase) + EV resale value (reduced) + service costs (reduced with regular maintenance, increased for consumables, increased for repairs)) + gas costs(NA) + insurance (increased) + home infrastructure costs( increased plus dependence on inflating electrical prices and electric monopolies) + convenience(wait time increases, depleted battery anxiety, broken charge stations)
- everything about EVs don't follow KISS (keep it stupid simple) engineering principles for the base product nor supply chain.
The model certainly will make more money for pioneering industries, but better for the consumer, society or environment..... Doubtful.
Which doesn't change any of the points that spawned out of that-- charging during the 10 hours between shifts mandatory downtime, and the 30 minute-every-8-hours required break is plenty enough to cover the vast majority of semi trucking needs.
Nobody drives 1000-1500 miles a day because you legally can't. The majority (roughly 2 out of every 3) truck routes are 500 miles or less total... so a 500 mile range EV semi covers all those without even charging prior to destination....and longer destinations- you can get back 70% of charge during your 30 minute mandatory break after 8 hours... so you're talking 850 miles per day of effective range without any added stopping- and you're not legally driving more than that anyway (usually less)
Most EVs charge overnight, when grid demand is already lowest. This is not at all a problem.
Nor is growing capacity to meet demand over time-- the Engineering Explained guy debunks the "GRID CAN NOT HANDLE IT" FUD here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dfyG6F
Factually and demonstrably.
https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles..
FACT: The greenhouse gas emissions associated with an electric vehicle over its lifetime are typically lower than those from an average gasoline-powered vehicle, even when accounting for manufacturing.
They have vastly fewer moving parts-- and fleet data from Tesla going back 12 years now shows the batteries tend to last longer than the average lifespan of an ICE vehicle on the road... (at over 200k miles Tesla batteries, even the oldest, since-improved-on types, retain nearly 90% of original range).
https://thedriven.io/2023/04/27/t...r-5-years/
Properly designed EVs are much simpler from an engineering perspective.
if you're genuinely interested in being educated on this, Sandy Munro the well known auto engineer who does vehicle teardowns and analysis compares the cooling system of a properly engineered EV (the Tesla Model Y) to the hilariously heavier/more expensive/more complex ICE-derived cooling system in the Mach E here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1kHsd3
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Which doesn't change any of the points that spawned out of that-- charging during the 10 hours between shifts mandatory downtime, and the 30 minute-every-8-hours required break is plenty enough to cover the vast majority of semi trucking needs.
Nobody drives 1000-1500 miles a day because you legally can't.
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Anyone can see that on their website right now.
Fisker is doing this fire sale due to their inability to keep customer deposits in order and are now bleeding money because of this.
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