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actually, yes LOL. people with karmas in minor benders are unable to get parts so insurance companies are forced to total the car for $10k in damages. check reddit
you just gave me an idea. buy these fisker and sell them as parts. $30k investment can turn into "name my price spare parts".
Saw multiple video of fisher owner trying to open their car with remote and it didn't work until like the 60th time that they press it. It's a brand new car lol
The idea of hydrogen is more favorable than EV long term for our planet IMO.
Based on... what?
Are you aware of how nearly all hydrogen is actually made?
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Building these hefty batteries is not good for our planet and especially with the material that is indeed to build them will eventually run out.
Nonsense.
First- they're highly recyclable, indeed there's major companies building entire business models around doing so for EVs.
Second, lithium is highly abundant on earth.. something like only 20ish percent of known deposits (and we keep finding more of them) would be needed to replace every car on earth with a battery electric vehicle- and that assumes we never improve the battery tech in any way.
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Toyota is sticking with hydrogen,
Yes- and as noted it has been an utter failure going on a decade now.
Even in Japan itself they sell increasingly close to 0 of them... and their own chief engineer admitted it's an inferior way to power a car compared to batteries (cited just a few posts back)
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LOL. Hydrogen is only available in California. Once theres more stations
So.,.. never then?
Not only are they not building more- in the last 6 months they SHUT DOWN a bunch of them few that exist at all (largely in just one tiny pocket in California) because it's a garbage dead end... (also cited just a few posts ago)
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There is a huge community of people who keep updates of old technology going. Any chance they hop on this? I suppose they would need to figure out how to 'jailbreak' (not the right word, but gets the point across) the firmware first.
The idea of hydrogen is more favorable than EV long term for our planet IMO.
Building these hefty batteries is not good for our planet and especially with the material that is indeed to build them will eventually run out.
Toyota is sticking with hydrogen, just like their hybrid technology,
The materials in the batteries is recyclable and will likely become a bigger business in the coming years. Currently, battery EVs are twice as efficient as hydrogen and offer a number of other benefits. With the multitude of battery technologies coming out, it's likely that the dependencies on REMs and lithium will reduce or go away completely.
Alas, there's only a handful of hydrogen fuel stations in the US whereas my sister uses a cheapo L1 charger for her car and her daily commutes and can use a fast charger for some longer drives, on those rare occasions. Batteries are practical and are already a major cost advantage for daily driving. For me, a ~$3,500 Nissan Leaf with 50 miles of practical range would cover 99% of the driving I do right now for the next several years and there's a healthy DIY community around this vehicle which allows me to use newer battery packs to extend that range to ~150-250 miles for a few a few thousand (which will inevitably get cheaper as battery prices are still on a major downward trend).
LOL, Waiting for the rest to follow suit so the industry can focus on advanced Hybrid and Hydrogen tech. This Battery tech is a few decades away if that. They need to find a replacement for strip mining in Africa to make these "GREEN" car batteries.
We're much closer to green batteries than we are to "green" hydrogen from natural gas.
LOL, Waiting for the rest to follow suit so the industry can focus on advanced Hybrid and Hydrogen tech. This Battery tech is a few decades away if that. They need to find a replacement for strip mining in Africa to make these "GREEN" car batteries.
People hitting you with dislikes, but you're speaking the truth.
Just so everyone knows - there is a "hack" to getting the $7500 rebate for cars that aren't made in US or if you have too much income. The hack is to LEASE the car instead of purchase. Government gave exception. So if you leased, and obviously this assumes the sales price is reduced $7500 due to lessor now getting rebate - you would still be able to take advantage.
You're still out the acquisition fee and other small charges - so maybe you end up getting 6k incentive instead of $7500, but still that's nothing to sneeze at.
You basically lease the car, and after a month you just buy out the lease if you were planning on purchasing anyways.
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Based on... what?
Are you aware of how nearly all hydrogen is actually made?
First- they're highly recyclable, indeed there's major companies building entire business models around doing so for EVs.
Second, lithium is highly abundant on earth.. something like only 20ish percent of known deposits (and we keep finding more of them) would be needed to replace every car on earth with a battery electric vehicle- and that assumes we never improve the battery tech in any way.
Even in Japan itself they sell increasingly close to 0 of them... and their own chief engineer admitted it's an inferior way to power a car compared to batteries (cited just a few posts back)
Not only are they not building more- in the last 6 months they SHUT DOWN a bunch of them few that exist at all (largely in just one tiny pocket in California) because it's a garbage dead end... (also cited just a few posts ago)
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Building these hefty batteries is not good for our planet and especially with the material that is indeed to build them will eventually run out.
Toyota is sticking with hydrogen, just like their hybrid technology,
Alas, there's only a handful of hydrogen fuel stations in the US whereas my sister uses a cheapo L1 charger for her car and her daily commutes and can use a fast charger for some longer drives, on those rare occasions. Batteries are practical and are already a major cost advantage for daily driving. For me, a ~$3,500 Nissan Leaf with 50 miles of practical range would cover 99% of the driving I do right now for the next several years and there's a healthy DIY community around this vehicle which allows me to use newer battery packs to extend that range to ~150-250 miles for a few a few thousand (which will inevitably get cheaper as battery prices are still on a major downward trend).
Plus car was overpriced in the first place; about the same level of quality as a 15k EV from China.
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You're still out the acquisition fee and other small charges - so maybe you end up getting 6k incentive instead of $7500, but still that's nothing to sneeze at.
You basically lease the car, and after a month you just buy out the lease if you were planning on purchasing anyways.
This explains it better than I can
https://www.kiplinger.c
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