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2023 Fisker Ocean Trim price cuts STARTS MARCH 29th
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2023 Fisker Ocean Trim price cuts STARTS MARCH 29th
Previous MSR. New MSRP Price. Difference.
Ocean Sport $38,999 $24,999 -$14,000
Ocean Ultra $52,999 $34,999 -$18,000
Ocean Extreme $61,499 $37,499 -$24,000
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Previous MSR. New MSRP Price. Difference.
Ocean Sport $38,999 $24,999 -$14,000
Ocean Ultra $52,999 $34,999 -$18,000
Ocean Extreme $61,499 $37,499 -$24,000
https://www.fiskerinc.c
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2023 Fisker Ocean Trim price cuts STARTS MARCH 29th
Previous MSR. New MSRP Price. Difference.
Ocean Sport $38,999 $24,999 -$14,000
Ocean Ultra $52,999 $34,999 -$18,000
Ocean Extreme $61,499 $37,499 -$24,000
https://www.fiskerinc.c
Previous MSR. New MSRP Price. Difference.
Ocean Sport $38,999 $24,999 -$14,000
Ocean Ultra $52,999 $34,999 -$18,000
Ocean Extreme $61,499 $37,499 -$24,000
https://www.fiskerinc.c
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Literally all the evidence (not the marketing by Toyota given how heavily they've invested in a non-viable fueling model) points to hydrogen being a dead-end for the majority of transportation use-cases: infrastructure is significantly more expensive to implement than high-voltage DCFC and quite literally pointless compared to gasoline infrastructure.
I agree that hybrid technology is (theoretically) a better use of battery materials than pure BEVs, but the time to do that has passed. There is no "advanced hybrid" technology in the works in any meaningful capacity for automobiles, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from.
This whole "EVs aren't green!" BS is what conservatives and oil company shills shout from the rooftop, ignoring the fact that an EV is "greener" than a comparable petrol vehicle (including hybrids) less than 3 years after being put into service. Everything after that is a net positive.
Only naive and uninformed people doubt the immediate and profound future of BEVs. Are they a drop-in replacement for ICEVs? No, of course not; the charging infrastructure isn't there, yet, and battery tech needs refinement to fit the niche use-cases that people always use to justify their silly arguments against BEVs. But BEVs will have price parity with ICEVs in only a few years and ICEVs will become the option only for those afraid of change or those who have a legitimate use-case that can't be met by BEVs.
I'm guessing you're one of those ignorant and afraid-of-change types.
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do not buy it warning from Edmund lol. I suspect in 20 years, these will be worth a small fortune if they really go out of business and stop producting any
https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/...ocean.html
I didn't actually claim that EVs were blanket "better than gas". Because I'm reasonable and (obviously) more objective than you, I acknowledged that the charging infrastructure isn't there, nor is battery tech at a place where it can compete with petrol in all circumstances. Do you understand what I'm saying? Because it seems that you - who accused me of being biased - are failing to understand that I am quite literally saying that BEVs are not displacing petrol vehicles...yet.
The difference between you and me is that I can see farther than my own nose. I guess my "bias" is that I understand technology you don't, and clearly have the ability to think farther than my own tiny pocket of reality. You silly anti-EV crowd are certainly entitled to your MAGA hats and opinions; you can even close your eyes in 5 years when EVs are impossible to ignore. Thankfully, I live in a progressive area where folks with means are happy to subsidize the technology so that eventually you neophobes can pay less to join the rest of us.
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