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Subaru Lease Offer: 2023 Subaru Solterra Compact Electric SUV

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Participating Subaru Dealerships [dealership locator] have 2023 Subaru Solterra Electric Compact SUV (Premium Trim, code PED-11) available to Lease at $241/month for 36 months (total $8,676) plus tax and license fee from participating dealerships w/ zero down for qualified buyers. Contact your local dealership(s) to verify if this offer is available in your area.

Thanks to community member KhalidS8701 for finding this deal.
  • Note: Offer and inventory availability may vary by location.
Features:
  • All-wheel-drive electric crossover
  • Seats five and carries 23.8 cubic feet of cargo behind its rear seats.
  • Range: 228 miles
  • 0-60mph in 6.5 seconds
  • 8.3" of ground clearance
  • Built on Toyota's e-TGNA global battery-electric vehicle platform

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  • About this deal:
    • Offer valid through April 30, 2024.
    • Subject to credit approval, vehicle insurance approval, & vehicle availability. Not all buyers may qualify. Payments may be higher in some states. Net cap cost & monthly payment excludes tax, license, title, registration, insurance, additional options, & retailer charges. Retailer participation may affect actual payment. At lease end, lessee is responsible for vehicle maintenance & repairs not covered by warranty, excessive wear & tear. Lessee pays personal property & ad valorem taxes (where applicable) & insurance. See participating retailer for details.
  • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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Written by KhalidS8701
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Participating Subaru Dealerships [dealership locator] have 2023 Subaru Solterra Electric Compact SUV (Premium Trim, code PED-11) available to Lease at $241/month for 36 months (total $8,676) plus tax and license fee from participating dealerships w/ zero down for qualified buyers. Contact your local dealership(s) to verify if this offer is available in your area.

Thanks to community member KhalidS8701 for finding this deal.
  • Note: Offer and inventory availability may vary by location.
Features:
  • All-wheel-drive electric crossover
  • Seats five and carries 23.8 cubic feet of cargo behind its rear seats.
  • Range: 228 miles
  • 0-60mph in 6.5 seconds
  • 8.3" of ground clearance
  • Built on Toyota's e-TGNA global battery-electric vehicle platform

Editor's Notes

Written by RevOne | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Offer valid through April 30, 2024.
    • Subject to credit approval, vehicle insurance approval, & vehicle availability. Not all buyers may qualify. Payments may be higher in some states. Net cap cost & monthly payment excludes tax, license, title, registration, insurance, additional options, & retailer charges. Retailer participation may affect actual payment. At lease end, lessee is responsible for vehicle maintenance & repairs not covered by warranty, excessive wear & tear. Lessee pays personal property & ad valorem taxes (where applicable) & insurance. See participating retailer for details.
  • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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RicardoR5620
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Mine at 100% charge gets 175 miles of range (don't turn on the climate because that knocks it down to 160 miles), dealer says they are working on a fix. But won't look at the car.
nadanunca
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You may want to look at the Hyundai Ioniq 6. Rated for 360 mile range on a 100% charge, and Hyundai's been doing $7,500 cashback to offset the ineligibility for federal credits. And if you're really lucky, your state won't charge sales tax—NJ didn't for mine.
Tarkov
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Too bad insurance on this would be another $200

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madmax718Apr 10, 2024 07:38 PM
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Quote from sam_ay :
That is exactly where we differ- EV drivers do not plan because in my view of the world, every EV driver owns an ICE for the long distance driving. The EV's are only as a daily driver and because electricity is cheap and can be produced for "free", except the cost of the equipment involved, by installing a PV system (solar panels for people who do not know), it is the best case for all involved.

You save money by driving the EV as a daily driver (an ICE is very inefficient for city driving anyways); You charge the EV using rooftop Solar panels which puts less strain on the grid and less of carbon burning power plants producing electricity; You still own an ICE for convenience and log distance driving.
Two cars means two insurance policies and two cars to maintain.

ICE is inefficient for city driving, but a plug in hybrid is the best of both worlds. (and the worst of both, depending on how you look at it).

If you drive to work, your not charging, so the solar panels only cut the strain on the grid during the day. At night, your putting strain on the grid. The only thing most people do is shift the grid demand to off peak hours.
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Apr 10, 2024 07:39 PM
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madmax718Apr 10, 2024 07:39 PM
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Quote from mattun :
That's really it. Just remember it's an election year. Republicans, Big Oil, and Toyota all have a lot to gain by anti-EV and solar spin. EVs aren't for everyone. They can save you a ton of time and money especially for home owner commuters. However, they're also a huge purchase and who doesn't love to be talked out of a huge purchase? Long term cost to own value? What are you talking about? We're Americans and just put it on the card.
Plug in hybrids really are the best of both worlds- enough plug in for run around town and work, and gas when you want to go further without the hassle.
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madmax718Apr 10, 2024 07:40 PM
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Quote from JaMon101 :
If you're stupid, you're stupid, there's nothing I can do about it. Poor white non-college educated folks is the prime demographic of the republican party. So there you go.
AOC much?
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Apr 10, 2024 07:59 PM
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mattunApr 10, 2024 07:59 PM
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Quote from madmax718 :
Plug in hybrids really are the best of both worlds- enough plug in for run around town and work, and gas when you want to go further without the hassle.
I drove a Volt for a decade. I loved it. Even highly considered buying another low mileage one. But after really thinking about it while shopping for another, I wouldn't wish a used Volt now on anybody. If anything broke on it at this point, it's a paperweight. Manufacturers don't support dead models. Plug in hybrids are decade old tech so you're probably hosed and looking for wrecked ones to salvage parts from once the warranty is used up and they're no longer supported. So assume that when you're done with it you better hope you wouldn't mind if it turned to dust. To me, seeing EV tech go from 100 miles range/4 hour charge/lucky to find a public charger/0-60 7 seconds to 300 mile range/15 minute charge/charger at every Walmart, Target, and Mall/0-60 4 seconds = no reason to buy an obsolete plug-in that I'd surely regret in a few years. I love my EV6 and would never go back.
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gamingdroidApr 10, 2024 08:14 PM
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Quote from Tarkov :
Too bad insurance on this would be another $200
That's how I see it too. Like I can't justify that much money every month for a lease, let alone the insurance cost. It's so much lower cost to get a beater and the insurance cost is so much lower too.

Also, reduces the chances of you being sued.

Now, if you're some kind of car enthusiast and this gets you off the rockers, then sure. I get excited about computers and the beach.
Apr 10, 2024 08:53 PM
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sam_ayApr 10, 2024 08:53 PM
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Quote from brotherhpj41 :
I enjoyed your input ...would you mind sharing what EV you bought?
I bought a Nissan Leaf with the smaller battery 40 kw.

My reasoning for this was
Only Nissan and Ford were qualifying for the rebate after the IRA was passed in August 2021. From August to December, only those 2 companies qualified. The inventory for Ford EV was very low and dealers were charging an exorbitant amount for getting an EV. Hence, Nissan made more sense because I didn't pay any dealer surcharge.

I had to get an EV for the excess production from solar panels. The best use of solar panels generated power was to substitute the high gas price per mile of driving. I wouldn't qualify for federal rebate from Jan 2022 because of high income. So getting a Nissan was the only option truly.

My use case was purely to replace the commuter daily miles. I figured that I do not need an extended range because of that. I will only use it for local driving and charge at home. Also, an EV battery is a Lot of Weight. So higher capacity equals higher weight to be carrying around everywhere and never really use it. It reduces the mileage of higher range EVs. I wanted the best mileage for even more savings.
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Apr 10, 2024 09:07 PM
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mattunApr 10, 2024 09:07 PM
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Quote from sam_ay :
I bought a Nissan Leaf with the smaller battery 40 kw.

My reasoning for this was
Only Nissan and Ford were qualifying for the rebate after the IRA was passed in August 2021. From August to December, only those 2 companies qualified. The inventory for Ford EV was very low and dealers were charging an exorbitant amount for getting an EV. Hence, Nissan made more sense because I didn't pay any dealer surcharge.

I had to get an EV for the excess production from solar panels. The best use of solar panels generated power was to substitute the high gas price per mile of driving. I wouldn't qualify for federal rebate from Jan 2022 because of high income. So getting a Nissan was the only option truly.

My use case was purely to replace the commuter daily miles. I figured that I do not need an extended range because of that. I will only use it for local driving and charge at home. Also, an EV battery is a Lot of Weight. So higher capacity equals higher weight to be carrying around everywhere and never really use it. It reduces the mileage of higher range EVs. I wanted the best mileage for even more savings.
I like your thought process on the battery weight. Like, nobody does that. Everybody wants more, more, more. I saw the new Dodge Charger EV is going to weigh more than a Lyriq. Seriously? I like fast, but come on. EVs are ideal for commuters, but we're pushing big heavy SUVs with 300+ range (and people are demanding 500 mile range) plus sub 5 minute charges... again, why? Are you planning to consistently drive 500 miles, charge 5 minutes, and drive 500 miles more? Charge fast or have a lot of range. PICK ONE! Like, most EVs already do what you need 99% of the time, but people want that 1% case covered too even though the cost is for the vehicle to be way more inefficient that other 99% of the time by hauling around a gigantic heavy battery you rarely use. It's like buying a 20mpg three row SUV and using it as a commuter because you like to do a 500 mile trip with the family a couple times a year.
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Apr 10, 2024 09:17 PM
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brotherhpj41Apr 10, 2024 09:17 PM
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Quote from sam_ay :
I bought a Nissan Leaf with the smaller battery 40 kw.

My reasoning for this was
Only Nissan and Ford were qualifying for the rebate after the IRA was passed in August 2021. From August to December, only those 2 companies qualified. The inventory for Ford EV was very low and dealers were charging an exorbitant amount for getting an EV. Hence, Nissan made more sense because I didn't pay any dealer surcharge.

I had to get an EV for the excess production from solar panels. The best use of solar panels generated power was to substitute the high gas price per mile of driving. I wouldn't qualify for federal rebate from Jan 2022 because of high income. So getting a Nissan was the only option truly.

My use case was purely to replace the commuter daily miles. I figured that I do not need an extended range because of that. I will only use it for local driving and charge at home. Also, an EV battery is a Lot of Weight. So higher capacity equals higher weight to be carrying around everywhere and never really use it. It reduces the mileage of higher range EVs. I wanted the best mileage for even more savings.
Another great read....one last question has your EV Leaf required much servicing? I see the Leaf has been discontinued to the dismay of many you have to wonder who makes such a call as that when the car has been very popular?
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boobolooApr 10, 2024 09:55 PM
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Quote from sam_ay :
I got sucked into these EV arguments again and wasted an hour of my life that I will never get back on educating these IDIOTS. I was only trying to relay my experience of saving over $3000 in only 1 year by a combination of EV for local driving and PV Solar panels for reducing the cost of home electricity and EV charging. The cost of electricity in my state is only 13.5c per kwh and I still managed to save as much money. I also provided clear calculations from the math I used- and said that every persons situation will be different and they have to plug their own numbers for cost of electricity, miles driven, etc. I can only imagine how much people can save in an year with higher electricity cost and average local driving.

I think most people who are here spewing nonsense or misinformation or just citing random rumors are Lobby people. Lobbies have infiltrated into forums nowadays and one can see it on news media "Comments" sections, internet forums discussing various items, forums on alternate sources of energy or forums on cars/trucks, etc (product forums).

Anyways, let stupidity prevail and there is an abundance of it in this country. No wonder America is at the bottom of every ranking on education, smartness and knowledge.
Not true.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-ne...s-usa-usa/
America is at the top when you break down performance by demographics.
https://twitter.com/eyeslasho/sta...7556700246 and you know the rest of the story.

The lobby isn't what you are claiming, I've seen the usual left leaning msm go hard with anti EV stories for one simple reason, Elon is saying things they don't like now.
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boobolooApr 10, 2024 10:00 PM
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Quote from mattun :
That's really it. Just remember it's an election year. Republicans, Big Oil, and Toyota all have a lot to gain by anti-EV and solar spin. EVs aren't for everyone. They can save you a ton of time and money especially for home owner commuters. However, they're also a huge purchase and who doesn't love to be talked out of a huge purchase? Long term cost to own value? What are you talking about? We're Americans and just put it on the card.
Its really not it. The anti EV stories from the very same outlets that spent years hysterically proclaiming the end of the world due to climate change are due to the fact that Elon clearly is working against their messaging now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GACM-IZsZ4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_J_T7TWbXY two examples from CNBC, hardly right leaning.
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ea1453Apr 10, 2024 10:09 PM
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Is this over? My dealer quoted me 399$
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Ducman69Apr 10, 2024 10:33 PM
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Quote from sam_ay :
I feel sorry for your lack of knowledge/information. I got my EV with a nice rebate so eventually the cost came out to be much less than an equivalent sedan that I could have bought. By driving the EV about 18k miles in my first year, I saved about $2200 and have not lost any battery capacity yet. I plan to drive this EV for my local needs for about 10 years. The battery capacity will possibly go down to about 75% by end of 10th year but I should have around 150k miles on my EV. Best part is that I would have saved the entire cost of the car if I stick through with this plan - In short, I would have saved enough money with my Gas cost of driving 150k versus my cost of driving an EV for 150k that the car will be free at the end of 10 years.
Show your math.

EV ownership equates to $17 a gallon: https://www.thestreet.com/electri...20gasoline

There are online calculators like Edmunds TMV that can show your all in calculated costs for different vehicles over a 5-year period. The greatest cost of a vehicle is not gas, its depreciation.

Electric cars suffer 'unsustainable' depreciation in secondhand market: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/el...00890.html
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mattunApr 10, 2024 10:45 PM
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Quote from Ducman69 :
Show your math.

EV ownership equates to $17 a gallon: https://www.thestreet.com/electri...20gasoline [thestreet.com]

There are online calculators like Edmunds TMV that can show your all in calculated costs for different vehicles over a 5-year period. The greatest cost of a vehicle is not gas, its depreciation.

Electric cars suffer 'unsustainable' depreciation in secondhand market: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/el...00890.html [yahoo.com]
For me, it was 82 mile commute in 2014. My 2004 Eclipse was getting 31mpg, but gas was often over $4 a gallon in California. Bridge Toll was $4 (HOV access gets your around that). General electricity without charging about $100/month. So 3K gas, 1K bridge toll, 1K electricity. Spent 25K on a Volt and 14K on solar. They paid for themselves in just under eight years vs. crossing my fingers my 235K Eclipse had another 100K miles in her. Sure, I sold my Volt back to the dealership where I got her for just 4K last year (wanted her to serve somebody else as well after getting a deal on an EV6 I couldn't refuse), but as far as depreciation went, the Volt could have turned to dust at that point for all I cared.
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Apr 10, 2024 11:02 PM
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mattunApr 10, 2024 11:02 PM
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Quote from booboloo :
Its really not it. The anti EV stories from the very same outlets that spent years hysterically proclaiming the end of the world due to climate change are due to the fact that Elon clearly is working against their messaging now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GACM-IZsZ4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_J_T7TWbXY two examples from CNBC, hardly right leaning.
Safe to say you didn't actually watch those two "hit pieces" about EV tires being more expensive and EV sales slowing this year while PHEVs finally picked up?
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boobolooApr 11, 2024 02:58 AM
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Quote from mattun :
Safe to say you didn't actually watch those two "hit pieces" about EV tires being more expensive and EV sales slowing this year while PHEVs finally picked up?
Those are just some of the things I've seen pushed, your media literacy is bad if you don't think those aren't intended as negative messaging.
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