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Dell Precision 3630 Desktop: i7-8700, 32GB RAM, 512GB SSD (Refurbished) $300 + Free Shipping

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Intel Core i7-8700 (6-Core, 3.20 GHz)
32GB RAM (2x 16GB)
512GB SSD
Nvidia Quadro P2000 Graphics Card
64-bit Windows 10 Professional

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https://www.dellrefurbished.com/i...000080&p=1
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04-05-2024 at 02:54 PM.
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overkill but good for a few years
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04-05-2024 at 02:55 PM.
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Only question is about support for OS and firmware updates, How many generations the processor goes back to
As noted in an earlier comment, the key requirement for an automatic upgrade to Windows 11 on the Intel platform is generally 8th generation or newer CPU models.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us...processors

(There are a few exceptions where some less common 7th generation CPUs are supported and where some 8th generation-based Xeon models are not [neowin.net])

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04-05-2024 at 03:08 PM.
Got one a few months ago i7-9700 with Radeon pro wx5100 for $400. The machine actually came with dual wx5100, so sold both video cards and got a good price on this machine.

Another beauty about this machine is it uses standard ATX PSU. Mine came with 800watt PSU and I moved all the components out to a full size case with better cooling.
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Any perspectives on the power consumption of these vs some of the smaller ones that have come up for sale previously?
The primary trade-off in any of these older systems, particularly high-end Precision desktops, will be the efficiency. This trade-off should be a consideration, but isn't necessarily the entire argument. There are plenty of under-powered PC systems sold which are amazingly efficient, but also were never really up to the task of being a Windows daily driver PC. (e.g. - old two-core Atom-based Windows laptops being sold for around $100)

In the case of something like these Precision systems, despite their age they are still remarkably capable (if unlikely to set any records for performance per watt). Fortunately we're not talking about the massive Xeon-based space heaters which sometimes pop up on dellrefurbished.com
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04-05-2024 at 03:19 PM.
04-05-2024 at 03:19 PM.
Quote from rickp18 :
Another beauty about this machine is it uses standard ATX PSU. Mine came with 800watt PSU and I moved all the components out to a full size case with better cooling.
Great catch for this model! I was rather shocked to see a remarkably standard power supply and motherboard [dell.com].

Clearance under and around the power supply is likely tight, but this is a shockingly modular / retail-friendly model of a Precision system.

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overkill but good for a few years
I'd suggest as many as eight (8) more years - which is to say as long as Windows 11 support is maintained. With this much CPU horsepower and RAM it is likely to be just as good at running Excel then as it is today.
(Windows 10 support is expected to end at the 10 year mark on Oct. 14, 2025)

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Quote from The_Love_Spud :
The primary trade-off in any of these older systems, particularly high-end Precision desktops, will be the efficiency. This trade-off should be a consideration, but isn't necessarily the entire argument. There are plenty of under-powered PC systems sold which are amazingly efficient, but also were never really up to the task of being a Windows daily driver PC. (e.g. - old two-core Atom-based Windows laptops being sold for around $100)

In the case of something like these Precision systems, despite their age they are still remarkably capable (if unlikely to set any records for performance per watt). Fortunately we're not talking about the massive Xeon-based space heaters which sometimes pop up on dellrefurbished.com
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Thank you so much, Jon. For a media server I was wondering if these would be needless power hogs compared to the smaller profile ones.
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Thank you so much, Jon. For a media server I was wondering if these would be needless power hogs compared to the smaller profile ones.
Depends upon the needs of the media server. If you could get by with one of those Dell micro systems they'd surely be more power efficient... but would seriously limit internal expansion and lack support for a GPU to provide acceleration (depending upon how you use your media server). For Dell systems in the same generation there isn't likely a huge difference between the Dell mini tower and Dell small form factor (SFF) systems as far as efficiency goes (in fact, it is possible that the default power supply in the mini towers might be more efficient - but checking that would require a close read of the specifications manuals). And of course the mini tower gives you loads more flexibility on storage and GPU installation.

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Depends upon the needs of the media server. If you could get by with one of those Dell micro systems they'd surely be more power efficient... but would seriously limit internal expansion and lack support for a GPU to provide acceleration (depending upon how you use your media server). For Dell systems in the same generation there isn't likely a huge difference between the Dell mini tower and Dell small form factor (SFF) systems as far as efficiency goes (in fact, it is possible that the default power supply in the mini towers might be more efficient - but checking that would require a close read of the specifications manuals). And of course the mini tower gives you loads more flexibility on storage and GPU installation.

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Thank you again! I'll be on the lookout for the next deal from Dell
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04-06-2024 at 02:01 AM.
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Got the Best Performance i7-9700 version for $422 shipped; thanks OP. Usually only the small/micro case types go on sale so I was quick to act when a full sized tower was available. I like the expandability and options that full size desktops/towers have.

Dell refurbished workstation are built like tanks and are an excellent bang for the buck IMO. I'm still using using a Precision T3500 I got for $250 back in 2015 and it still works great and is usable/powerful enough to handle everything I want; even modern games running at 1080p with a Radeon RX 6600 XT installed.

However, since Windows 11 can not be installed on the Precision T3500 I was going to need to upgrade. The Precision 3630 is compatible with Windows 11 [microsoft.com] according to my research [dell.com] so I should be good to go. I'm hoping to sell the NVIDIA Quadro P2200 to make the deal even sweeter. I'm not sure what they go for though; hoping to get at least $100 for it on Ebay...
You could have simply installed Linux Mint for a more secure OS or used Rufus to bypass CPU requirements and upgrade to Windows 11. You would have saved some money instead of buying a new PC.
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Quote from The_Love_Spud :
I'd suggest as many as eight (8) more years - which is to say as long as Windows 11 support is maintained. With this much CPU horsepower and RAM it is likely to be just as good at running Excel then as it is today.
(Windows 10 support is expected to end at the 10 year mark on Oct. 14, 2025)

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Aren't business machines heavily used and abused by various people for countless hours per workday for a set number of years? Some are hesitant to purchase for this reason. How would a computer last that long running constantly with significant wear and tear and the potential development of hardware issues? Faulty or fried motherboards and CPUs come to mind.
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Anyone 3630 for plex server?

Have Ubuntu installed on top of win 11 for dual boot. Plex server on Ubuntu, oddly, HW trans-coding is not kicking in for 4k and the CPU is cycling between high and low utilization. (HW transcoding enabled, set as auto: iGPU and P2000. Set to P2000 wont change anything either.)

P2000 should be one of most capable plex server GPU. (or even the intel 630 iGPU should be plenty for transcoding), what gives?
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You could have simply installed Linux Mint for a more secure OS or used Rufus to bypass CPU requirements and upgrade to Windows 11. You would have saved some money instead of buying a new PC.
Last time I looked Microsoft cracked down on hacking/circumventing Windows 11 CPU and TPM requirements. But it seems currently all you need to do is create a new Registry Key in the System Registry Directory and enter 2 new DWORD Values BypassCPUCheck and BypassCPUTPM according to this video [youtube.com].

Regardless, my ancient Dimension T3500 is getting nearly 15 years old and it's embarrassingly time for an upgrade. Amazingly though it still does everything I want; from playing modern games at 1080p, running a Plex Media Server and "Arr" media procurement programs along with SABnzbd all at the same time without breaking a sweat. The only upgrades I did was a 650 Watt power supply and a Radeon RX 6600 XT.

However, I did decide to cancel my order in hopes of finding a better deal as my trusty T3500 is still going strong and serving me well. My main concern is that the Precision 3630 doesn't have a large enough default power supply and it's not a true full sized tower; although it's ATX compatible.

Hopefully something else will pop up in a year or so but I've noticed that full sized Dell refurbished workstations are getting rarer; it's usually the small form factor types that go on sale directly from Dell...
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Aren't business machines heavily used and abused by various people for countless hours per workday for a set number of years? Some are hesitant to purchase for this reason. How would a computer last that long running constantly with significant wear and tear and the potential development of hardware issues? Faulty or fried motherboards and CPUs come to mind.
In my experience, Dell Workstations are built like tanks and far surpass any quality and build standards that typical consumer PC have. For example, my refurbished Dimension T3500 that I purchased 2015 directly from Dell is still capable and running strong today. (Manufacture date is 2009)

Try to get grade A refurbished units though as condition could be indicative of lifespan expectancy and overall past usage. Barring that, I wouldn't hesitate buying refurbs directly from Dell based on my past superlative experience.

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Anyone 3630 for plex server?

Have Ubuntu installed on top of win 11 for dual boot. Plex server on Ubuntu, oddly, HW trans-coding is not kicking in for 4k and the CPU is cycling between high and low utilization. (HW transcoding enabled, set as auto: iGPU and P2000. Set to P2000 wont change anything either.)

P2000 should be one of most capable plex server GPU. (or even the intel 630 iGPU should be plenty for transcoding), what gives?
I don't use transcoding as all my clients support direct play (Firestick 4ks) and I have the free version of Plex. However perhaps you can try Jellyfin [jellyfin.org] to see if transcoding works there to ascertain whether the problem is with Plex or the PC?
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04-07-2024 at 06:41 PM.
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In my experience, Dell Workstations are built like tanks and far surpass any quality and build standards that typical consumer PC have. For example, my refurbished Dimension T3500 that I purchased 2015 directly from Dell is still capable and running strong today. (Manufacture date is 2009)

Try to get grade A refurbished units though as condition could be indicative of lifespan expectancy and overall past usage. Barring that, I wouldn't hesitate buying refurbs directly from Dell based on my past superlative experience.



I don't use transcoding as all my clients support direct play (Firestick 4ks) and I have the free version of Plex. However perhaps you can try Jellyfin [jellyfin.org] to see if transcoding works there to ascertain whether the problem is with Plex or the PC?
Figured out. work great now. No wonder P2000 is a favorite for plex transcoding.
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